Episode 140 - Valentines Day, Planning for an AMC Hut Stay, Hiking the Southern Presidentials

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[00:01:08] And here is your forecast for Friday, February 16th and Saturday, February 17th.

[00:01:16] There's an alert.

[00:01:18] Windchill advisory in effect from Friday night through Saturday.

[00:01:23] Let's see what's going on here.

[00:01:25] Friday in the clouds with snow early, becoming a chance of snow showers midday then mostly

[00:01:31] in the clear under partly cloudy skies late.

[00:01:34] Additional snow accumulations of 1-4 inches are possible.

[00:01:38] With a high in the mid single digits, winds will be southwest shifting northwest late

[00:01:43] at 55-70 mph with gusts up to 85 mph.

[00:01:49] And the windchill will be falling to 25 below to 35 below.

[00:01:54] Friday night in the clear early, then becoming in and out of the clouds under partly cloudy

[00:01:58] skies with a chance of snow showers.

[00:02:02] Possible snow accumulations of a trace to 1 inch.

[00:02:05] With a low around 5 below.

[00:02:08] Winds will be northwest at 55-70 mph early, decreasing to 35-50 mph with gusts up to 65

[00:02:16] mph.

[00:02:18] Windchill will be falling to 35 below to 45 below.

[00:02:23] And Saturday, mostly in the clouds early, then trending towards in and out of the clouds

[00:02:29] under partly sunny skies with a high around 0 degrees early, decreasing to around 10

[00:02:36] below late.

[00:02:37] Winds will be northwest shifting west at 35-50 mph with gusts up to 65 mph.

[00:02:45] And the windchill Saturday will be 35 below to 45 below.

[00:03:23] Broadcasting from the Woodpecker Studio in the great state of New Hampshire, welcome

[00:03:28] to the Sounds Like a Search and Rescue podcast, where we discuss all things related to hiking

[00:03:34] and search and rescue in the White Mountains of New Hampshire.

[00:03:37] Here are your hosts, Mike and Stump.

[00:03:43] Alright, we are on episode 140, Stump.

[00:04:02] 140, that's, we're getting there, huh?

[00:04:07] Yeah, that's pretty good.

[00:04:09] Yeah, no kidding.

[00:04:10] I'm spoiled right now.

[00:04:12] I'm listening to the background music that you can't hear.

[00:04:15] Oh, you're listening to the intro music?

[00:04:17] Yeah, it was a fluke though, I had it unmuted in the background.

[00:04:21] I would be so pumped.

[00:04:22] I know.

[00:04:23] We're like dancing right now.

[00:04:25] It's so like old school, analog.

[00:04:27] Sometimes I listen to that just, I have that on my mix and sometimes I'll listen to that

[00:04:31] just as a standalone.

[00:04:32] I'll be like, I'm in a Stomp vibe today.

[00:04:35] Oh, that's a great song, it really is.

[00:04:37] What is it called again?

[00:04:39] Waterpots?

[00:04:40] Waterpots, yep.

[00:04:41] Waterpots.

[00:04:42] Yeah, and what people are hearing is the instrumental version.

[00:04:45] There is a vocal that goes with the whole thing, but.

[00:04:47] Oh, it's awesome.

[00:04:48] Yeah, it's good stuff.

[00:04:49] Awesome vocal version.

[00:04:50] Maybe we'll release it to the public at some point.

[00:04:53] Oh my God, you should get like Mariah Carey to sing it or Taylor Swift even better.

[00:04:59] Oh my God.

[00:05:02] Taylor Swift, that'd be great.

[00:05:04] We're going to talk about Taylor Swift in a little while when we get to Valentine's Day.

[00:05:07] So Stomp, the weather forecast is insane.

[00:05:10] Of course I picked this weekend to do an overnight, but so we experience early spring and then

[00:05:15] the joke is always like, oh yeah, early spring means that you're going to have winter part

[00:05:20] two and good Lord do we have winter part two coming with this cold weather.

[00:05:23] Yeah, we sure do.

[00:05:24] We have some snow, we've got some bitterly cold temperatures and like very sub-zero type

[00:05:31] of cold.

[00:05:32] So you're heading up north, eh?

[00:05:34] Yeah, yeah, we'll talk about that in a little while, but it looks like the wind chill, from

[00:05:38] what I can see the wind chill is going to be like minus 35, minus 40, so that's the weather.

[00:05:42] Remember when we did that Lincoln Woods to Flume?

[00:05:47] We went up Osseo and over Flume and Liberty on that day where it was like minus 40 wind chill.

[00:05:52] Yes, yeah, it was absolutely insane.

[00:05:54] Yeah, that was burly.

[00:05:56] Yeah, for sure.

[00:05:57] I'd never forget that.

[00:05:58] That's not the type of weather I'd want to go out in like intentionally.

[00:06:01] I think that that was good when we were like testing our gear and just seeing, okay, do

[00:06:08] our gloves work?

[00:06:09] Do our boots work?

[00:06:10] Right, right.

[00:06:11] Now I know everything works and now I'm like, I don't want to go out in that cold weather

[00:06:14] anymore, but I'm going out.

[00:06:16] I do think that was a safe approach too.

[00:06:18] Mostly you're on the lee side for that whole Osseo trip and then you just had that brief

[00:06:23] little excursion above Treelume at Flume and then down and in and then of course Liberty.

[00:06:29] That wasn't too bad.

[00:06:30] That's the way to do it.

[00:06:31] No, no.

[00:06:32] I think that that is a good, like if you're a winter hiker and you're looking to test

[00:06:36] your gear and I know people say like, oh, stay home, don't go out or whatever, but this weekend

[00:06:41] you could absolutely go out and do that.

[00:06:44] We did Lincoln Woods up Osseo and then down Liberty Springs.

[00:06:47] So we spotted a car, but you could do an out and back too and just go up Liberty Springs.

[00:06:52] This is the type of weekend where like if you're going to do something like don't go

[00:06:55] to Franconia Ridge, don't go in any open treeline places, but like Liberty and Flume is a good

[00:07:00] one because you can get up there quickly sort of test what it's like to be above treeline

[00:07:07] in those cold conditions and then get down really quick.

[00:07:09] Yeah.

[00:07:10] And then also think about the side of the mountain that you're on.

[00:07:13] If you're on that eastern side of a mountain, you're buffeted from the wind.

[00:07:17] You're protected by this massive wall of granite.

[00:07:19] If you're heading up, see the western side going up Liberty, that would be a different

[00:07:25] ballgame, you know?

[00:07:26] Yeah, Liberty is more exposed, but Liberty is also very easy to just duck back down.

[00:07:30] Yeah, true, true.

[00:07:32] There's a number of summits like that, like Garfield's like that, the Salt Summit of

[00:07:37] Moosilake is like that.

[00:07:38] There's a lot of places where you can go and say, all right, it's going to be a crazy

[00:07:42] cold day.

[00:07:43] I'm going to test above treeline a little bit, but then get back down.

[00:07:47] Especially the big thing for me is visibility.

[00:07:49] If there's no visibility and it's freezing cold, then it's a no-go.

[00:07:53] If you've got visibility and it's freezing cold, you want to test your gear, then go

[00:07:57] ahead, but just don't go up above treeline for an extended amount of time.

[00:08:00] You know what I've been meaning to do is to test out a bothy bag, a single person bothy

[00:08:05] and then a bivy, one of your small handheld bivy bags.

[00:08:08] I'd love to go out there in weather like this and just test that to see how good they work

[00:08:12] or not.

[00:08:13] Yeah, yeah, that'd be interesting.

[00:08:15] Maybe I'll bring my temporary bivy and try that out this weekend.

[00:08:18] Yeah, get back to me on it because that'd be really great information.

[00:08:21] Yeah, yeah, I will.

[00:08:23] All right, Stomp, so welcome to episode 140 of the Sounds Like a Search and Rescue podcast.

[00:08:29] This week we got no guests, so we're going to cover a bunch of different topics here.

[00:08:35] So planning for a winter stay in an AMC hut, we've got snowmobile accidents, we've got Mount

[00:08:40] Everest news, we've got missing hikers, we got serial killers, we got a new movie about

[00:08:44] the legendary story of Don Fendler who was a young boy.

[00:08:48] I think he was 12 years old when he went missing on Mount Katahdin in the summer of 1939.

[00:08:54] So that'll be kind of an interesting story.

[00:08:58] There's a movie coming out on that.

[00:09:00] And then we're going to cover a recent hike on Mount Pierce and Mount Jackson.

[00:09:06] Stomp thinks snowmobile season may be slowing down quite a bit in New Hampshire.

[00:09:10] We've got a bunch of notable hikes, so we'll talk about where people have gone hiking.

[00:09:14] And then we've got recent search and rescue news.

[00:09:16] So I'm Mike.

[00:09:17] And I'm Stomp.

[00:09:18] Let's get started.

[00:09:19] Let's get started.

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[00:10:53] So are you going to make sure you don't leave any traces, Stomp?

[00:10:56] Yeah, leave no traces.

[00:10:58] Yep, especially poop.

[00:10:59] Yes.

[00:11:00] Yeah.

[00:11:01] We're going to talk about that in a minute.

[00:11:03] All right, Stomp.

[00:11:04] So this first one's a snowmobile story.

[00:11:06] So snowmobiles are pinned under a burning sled.

[00:11:09] So for people that don't snowmobile, people that do snowmobile, they call their snowmobiles sleds.

[00:11:15] Yes, that's right.

[00:11:16] This is like, you don't want to hear this if you want to go snowmobiling for the first time.

[00:11:21] But this is the stuff that horrible dreams are made out of, nightmares.

[00:11:26] Yeah.

[00:11:27] And so this happened in Stewartstown, New Hampshire.

[00:11:30] I don't know where that is.

[00:11:31] I'm assuming it's up north near Pittsburgh or something.

[00:11:34] But a 73-year-old Connecticut man.

[00:11:36] I stopped.

[00:11:38] Feel free to call me on if I'm wrong here.

[00:11:40] I feel like there's a lot of Connecticut and Rhode Island people that crash snowmobiles and ATVs up in New Hampshire.

[00:11:46] Yeah, it's a good question.

[00:11:48] I think you're probably right, but I haven't really kept track.

[00:11:52] Is that what you've noticed on the reports?

[00:11:55] Yeah, yeah.

[00:11:56] I sound like there's a trend there.

[00:11:57] Interesting.

[00:11:58] Connecticut, Rhode Island.

[00:11:59] They can't drive, so it makes sense.

[00:12:02] Yeah, a lot of rentals too.

[00:12:03] A lot of rentals get in trouble.

[00:12:05] Yeah, exactly.

[00:12:06] So, I mean, horrible drivers on the road, then horrible drivers on the snowmobile.

[00:12:09] So anyway, 73-year-old Connecticut man.

[00:12:11] And believe me, I love all my Connecticut friends, so don't come at me, Lynn.

[00:12:15] Don't come at me, Joanne or John.

[00:12:18] I love you guys, but you can't drive.

[00:12:21] Anyway, 73-year-old Connecticut man traveling downhill in field to stay on trail causing a snowmobile to strike a tree and roll over onto him.

[00:12:31] Right.

[00:12:33] Let's just stop there.

[00:12:36] That's pretty bad.

[00:12:39] You're going to be going fast for that to happen, right?

[00:12:41] Not necessarily.

[00:12:42] Well, that's true because you could hit like a...

[00:12:44] If you get off the edge of a trail, then the sled could just flip right over, right?

[00:12:48] Yeah, I've seen them go right over on seemingly flat trail too.

[00:12:54] You hit a divot and you lean the wrong way and it can go.

[00:12:58] But yeah, it gets worse.

[00:13:01] Anyway, so he goes down trail.

[00:13:05] He doesn't stay on trail, strikes a tree and it rolls over on him.

[00:13:09] And then to add to the embarrassment, the snowmobile caught on fire while the guy was stuck underneath of it.

[00:13:18] So luckily several other people were riding.

[00:13:20] They were able to pull him out from under the flaming snow.

[00:13:23] So it's one of those things where it's like a kid gets stuck under a car and his 98-pound mom will lift it up.

[00:13:29] Oh, the adrenaline.

[00:13:31] Yeah, they found that super strength.

[00:13:32] So he was taken to Upper Connecticut Valley Hospital in Colebrook.

[00:13:36] And then they actually did dart helicopter him to UVN Medical Center in Burlington, Vermont because of his injury.

[00:13:43] So serious injury.

[00:13:45] You can't mess around with burns.

[00:13:46] If you got burns, then it can be a long recovery.

[00:13:49] Absolutely.

[00:13:50] Crush injuries maybe, burns.

[00:13:52] But yeah, I was talking to some of the snowmobile guys this weekend.

[00:13:55] It seems like some of the older sleds are prone to this type of phenomena.

[00:13:59] Just the way they're built, but yeah, not a good story.

[00:14:03] Yeah, no, that's good.

[00:14:05] The one time I went snowmobiling with my buddies Driz and Zeus.

[00:14:10] I won't use their real names, just their dude names.

[00:14:13] You know, Driz and Zeus, the two knuckleheads, they flip their sleds.

[00:14:17] Okay.

[00:14:19] Not me though.

[00:14:20] What kind of terrain were you on when it happened?

[00:14:22] We were up in the Forks in Maine.

[00:14:24] I think I've told this story before, but these guys would rent Dodge Vipers and just drive up to Vermont in a day just to go like 150 miles.

[00:14:34] They're one of those Massachusetts people that would go fast on 93.

[00:14:37] But we rented snowmobiles and I drove dirt bikes and four-wheelers and stuff my whole life.

[00:14:45] So I have a healthy respect for motor vehicles or those kind of vehicles.

[00:14:51] They decided that they were going to, we were riding around the Forks having a good time.

[00:14:55] They decided they were going to go out on this frozen lake and I was like, well, I don't know whether that's a good idea.

[00:15:02] So I stayed on the trail.

[00:15:05] They went off onto the lake and they were flying.

[00:15:08] Yeah.

[00:15:10] I went up on the trail and then I noticed it was one of those bridges with the wooden, it's got like two wooden things for the wheels of trucks.

[00:15:21] But then it drops down.

[00:15:23] Correct.

[00:15:24] It was one of those bridges.

[00:15:25] So I turned around and I was like, oh, I'm going to warn those guys because you could come off of the lake and then go right on the trail and go really fast.

[00:15:34] And you wouldn't see the bridge until it's not, I almost didn't slow down in time because it came up really fast.

[00:15:38] So I went, turned back around, went to go like wave them and I was like waving them down as they went past me.

[00:15:44] And they just laughed.

[00:15:47] And then they went flying into that bridge and then they were both too close to each other and both of them flipped their snowmobiles.

[00:15:54] Hmm. Yeah.

[00:15:55] See, there you go.

[00:15:57] It happens.

[00:15:58] Yeah.

[00:15:59] One of them got like pretty badly knocked out.

[00:16:01] But then we were able to flip the snowmobiles back over and get them running.

[00:16:04] But the day was ruined.

[00:16:06] Sure.

[00:16:07] I was like, I'm never doing this again.

[00:16:11] Yep.

[00:16:12] I can understand.

[00:16:13] Yeah.

[00:16:14] Yeah.

[00:16:15] Anyway.

[00:16:17] All right, stop.

[00:16:18] So moving on.

[00:16:19] So just be safe on the snowmobiles, people.

[00:16:21] Yeah.

[00:16:22] Little update.

[00:16:24] This is a good update.

[00:16:26] Yeah.

[00:16:27] So stop.

[00:16:28] This has been keeping an eye on this wolf situation.

[00:16:30] So California wolves have been.

[00:16:33] Is this the wolves that were released recently?

[00:16:35] Is that what's going on?

[00:16:36] Yeah, they were.

[00:16:37] I know we talked about different areas to different states, but this is a story that we may not have covered.

[00:16:42] But it's the same situation where they're trying to repopulate certain species.

[00:16:46] And since August, apparently in California, these wolves have killed 18 animals, including cattle.

[00:16:55] So it's an interesting story.

[00:16:56] But if you read deeper into it, they do reimburse the farmers that lose their cattle or their livestock.

[00:17:02] So I guess that's a good thing.

[00:17:04] But still, you have these killer wolves that are just starting to repopulate.

[00:17:09] I'm actually surprised.

[00:17:10] I would've thought it would've been more animals.

[00:17:12] I mean, the wolves got to be hungry.

[00:17:15] Well, since August, it's not.

[00:17:19] I mean, given the fact that the cattle are somewhat protected and monitored, I suppose.

[00:17:24] I think that's a pretty big number.

[00:17:27] But yeah, who knows?

[00:17:29] They should just leave a couple of cows roaming around in the wolves' territory to just keep them fat.

[00:17:35] Decoys.

[00:17:37] Yeah, yeah.

[00:17:38] Why not?

[00:17:39] Robot cows roaming around.

[00:17:41] Or just like, yeah.

[00:17:43] Maybe just put cameras on them so when they film that.

[00:17:48] Yeah, I wonder if they have GPS trackers on them.

[00:17:51] I bet they would.

[00:17:52] I have seen video or articles about the wolves with GPS tracking.

[00:17:58] And it's funny, in Canada they'll have six packs of wolves.

[00:18:04] And you can see if their territory is a square, you can see the wolves will stay within their own territories.

[00:18:12] So they'll have different colors of the GPS tracks.

[00:18:15] And it'll show six perfectly aligned rectangles in a larger rectangle to show that the wolves don't go into each other's territory.

[00:18:24] That's fascinating.

[00:18:26] So they must pee all around the perimeter and then the other wolves know, like, oh, this isn't my pack's pee.

[00:18:33] They got to stay out of there.

[00:18:35] Like the Grey.

[00:18:36] That movie is so good.

[00:18:38] Very territorial.

[00:18:40] All right, Stomp.

[00:18:41] So this is the part of the show where you put in, you want to talk about Valentine's Day.

[00:18:44] So what could you possibly have to give to the audience that they would care about Valentine's Day?

[00:18:49] Well, I mean, as a guy, just the fact that I survived.

[00:18:53] I made it through another...

[00:18:54] How'd you do?

[00:18:55] I did okay.

[00:18:56] Yeah, patting myself on the shoulder.

[00:18:58] Like, yeah, I did all right.

[00:18:59] I made it.

[00:19:00] Yeah.

[00:19:01] I ended up getting tickets to Ice Castles, which was funny.

[00:19:04] It was sort of a tongue-in-cheek purchase.

[00:19:07] But we actually had a really nice time.

[00:19:09] The new location's fantastic in Woodstock.

[00:19:11] I remember going several years ago and I said I'd probably never go again, but that was when it was in Lincoln.

[00:19:17] And that's why it was sort of a funny gift, but it worked out good.

[00:19:19] But the new farm it's on in Woodstock is phenomenal.

[00:19:22] There's so much to do.

[00:19:23] Yeah, it looks nice.

[00:19:24] Oh, yeah.

[00:19:25] I would check it out.

[00:19:26] There are these magical nighttime walks in the forest with all these lights and horse carriage rides and sledding hills.

[00:19:31] It's really cool.

[00:19:33] Great time.

[00:19:34] I remember the special lights and stuff.

[00:19:35] I saw one of my friends posted something on social media.

[00:19:39] Well worth it.

[00:19:40] Well worth it for sure.

[00:19:41] And I got a Sherpa ant from Mrs. Stomp.

[00:19:45] Oh, you did?

[00:19:46] Yeah, we were talking about how I wish I had the Pemiloop drawing that she had done, the print.

[00:19:53] So I got a Pemiloop to compliment my Prezi Traverse.

[00:19:56] So that was super cool.

[00:19:57] That's not bad.

[00:19:58] Yeah.

[00:19:59] That's awesome.

[00:20:00] Pretty neat.

[00:20:01] Wow.

[00:20:02] I didn't beat you Stomp.

[00:20:03] Me and Mrs. Mike went to Home Depot for Valentine's Day.

[00:20:09] Hey, that can be romantic though.

[00:20:10] What are you working on?

[00:20:13] She was fiddling around in her closet and she pulled down a shelf.

[00:20:17] So I had the shelves like I didn't want to, the way the shelves align, I wasn't able to screw them into studs.

[00:20:25] So I had those like plastic anchors and they've held for a pretty good amount of time.

[00:20:30] But Mrs. Mike was fiddling, shouldn't be fiddling.

[00:20:32] I told her not to fiddle and she like pulled the shelf down by leaning on it.

[00:20:38] So we had to go to Home Depot for me to get a 1x12 to essentially like now I took everything down and I've got to put a nailer board.

[00:20:48] I basically have to put a 1x12 on the back of the closet, screw it into the studs and then I can use that to screw the hanger and the shelf into the hanger board.

[00:21:00] So a little carpentry.

[00:21:02] And then it'll be solid.

[00:21:04] Yeah.

[00:21:05] So I got to paint it and make it look nice and everything.

[00:21:07] So we decided we were going to plan that out on Valentine's Day, which was fun.

[00:21:11] Hey, that's good.

[00:21:12] That's good couple time though.

[00:21:14] Yeah, it was good.

[00:21:15] But we got our romance, we got our fix of romance on Sunday when Taylor Swift won the Super Bowl.

[00:21:21] Did she get the winning kick?

[00:21:25] Yeah, she won the Super Bowl.

[00:21:27] She did according to the media.

[00:21:29] Yep, that's for sure.

[00:21:30] That was the big focus.

[00:21:32] Did you watch it?

[00:21:33] Did you watch the Super Bowl?

[00:21:34] I watched the halftime show and then I watched the last quarter up until when it's overtime.

[00:21:39] Then I said, I am checking out.

[00:21:41] Oh yeah?

[00:21:42] Oh yeah.

[00:21:43] What did you think?

[00:21:44] Were you rooting for a particular team?

[00:21:46] No, no, no.

[00:21:47] I had zero, zero interest in anything going on with this.

[00:21:50] I did watch the halftime show.

[00:21:52] I thought that was fantastic and I was mostly interested to see if they would do one of those quick cutaways to Taylor, but they didn't.

[00:21:58] That was interesting.

[00:21:59] Yeah, they cut away to her only when like her boyfriend catches a pass.

[00:22:03] Right, exactly.

[00:22:04] Do you know her boyfriend's name?

[00:22:06] Travis.

[00:22:07] Do you even know it?

[00:22:08] You know the last name?

[00:22:09] Kelsey, I guess.

[00:22:11] Okay, all right.

[00:22:12] You're up for it.

[00:22:13] Yeah, I'm following.

[00:22:14] I'm following along.

[00:22:15] Mr. Pop Culture.

[00:22:16] I gotta get you up to speed.

[00:22:18] If I invite you to the poker game with my friends, you need to be able to present yourself as knowing a little bit about sports.

[00:22:24] Yeah, that's not gonna happen.

[00:22:26] I'm gonna embarrass the hell out of you.

[00:22:28] I'll just tell you.

[00:22:29] I'll be like, stop.

[00:22:30] If they say anything, just tell them like...

[00:22:31] Go deep.

[00:22:32] I would just be like, just tell them you don't understand why San Francisco took the ball first in overtime and then you'd be okay.

[00:22:40] Yeah, I can't do it.

[00:22:42] I just look at people that talk like that.

[00:22:44] I can't figure it out.

[00:22:46] I can't comprehend it.

[00:22:47] It's so odd to me.

[00:22:49] But anyway, all right, so moving on.

[00:22:51] Valentine's Day, we both survived.

[00:22:54] So this is a story out of Mount Everest.

[00:22:57] So this has been going around quite a bit.

[00:22:58] I got this sent to me by a couple of friends.

[00:23:01] But Mount Everest climbers have to carry special bags to take their poop on or off the mountain.

[00:23:09] So basically, if you have to do any sort of nature calling, you have to poop into a bag and then take that bag out with you.

[00:23:18] And I don't know exactly how that works.

[00:23:21] I've never actually talked to anybody about how they leave.

[00:23:25] Do they take a helicopter ride out?

[00:23:27] Do they hike out?

[00:23:28] I don't really know how that works.

[00:23:29] Yeah, I have no idea.

[00:23:31] But still, if you got to go, you got to carry it with you.

[00:23:34] What's shocking about this is that this is actually coming to light now.

[00:23:38] I thought this would have been the practice to begin with.

[00:23:40] Yeah, I don't know.

[00:23:43] So you're on Mount Everest.

[00:23:45] Usually you're on for what is it like a three to six week period?

[00:23:49] You're usually there when you're climbing.

[00:23:51] Is that right?

[00:23:52] I would think so, yeah.

[00:23:54] Different camps.

[00:23:55] That could be a lot of poop.

[00:23:56] No kidding.

[00:23:57] Yeah, amidst all the trash issues that they have.

[00:24:00] Yeah, I find it stunning.

[00:24:02] I'm surprised that they don't have like a latrine or some sort of, you know, like the toilets that we have in the White Mountains.

[00:24:10] Like that they don't have some sort of a biodegradable toilet system at base camp.

[00:24:15] I'm not sure if that would work up there.

[00:24:17] I know the ones up here work on what you have to add in dirt or some top soil on top of it for it to work.

[00:24:25] I don't know if that would be accessible.

[00:24:27] Like bark mulch.

[00:24:28] Yeah, I don't know if that would be accessible that high up.

[00:24:31] But it says at lower altitudes they typically dig holes.

[00:24:35] But man, that's tricky.

[00:24:37] Limited snow cover.

[00:24:40] Yeah.

[00:24:41] I would guess like once you start climbing, like once you're off base camp and you're doing like camp one, camp two,

[00:24:47] and you're acclimating and trying to go up, like I would imagine that you're not, you know, nature's not calling very frequently.

[00:24:54] I would think so too.

[00:24:56] But then again, that's probably something you would want to happen because it's definitely related to your hydration.

[00:25:02] If you're not, then you may have an issue.

[00:25:05] But yeah, interesting story.

[00:25:08] So it's like the extreme cold up there just prevents the poop from degrading.

[00:25:12] You would think that it would like if it froze up, you could like smash it up into small little bits and eventually it would disappear.

[00:25:20] But I don't know.

[00:25:21] Got me.

[00:25:22] It's a brave new world.

[00:25:24] All right, well, we'll do some research if we ever get to Mount Everest.

[00:25:28] Okay.

[00:25:30] All right, next here, Stomp, you've got like, and just for the listeners,

[00:25:33] like this is a collection of all these different news stories and stuff that we wanted to talk about that we had included in shows

[00:25:40] that we had like the last three or four guests that we never got to.

[00:25:43] So this is like a catch up week for us to just clean out our archives.

[00:25:47] Shoot the breeze.

[00:25:49] I thought this was a nice article, actually.

[00:25:52] What is it, Stomp?

[00:25:53] So they interview 14 centenarians.

[00:25:56] So those are people that live greater than 100 years old and they're still alive.

[00:26:03] And each of the interviews, they give their reasoning as to why they've lived so long over the years.

[00:26:09] And we'll let you read it, but here are a couple highlights.

[00:26:11] A few of the tips were to choose the right life partner.

[00:26:15] That makes sense.

[00:26:17] Do what you love.

[00:26:19] Another commonsensical idea.

[00:26:22] Get educated.

[00:26:25] That's an interesting one that you could probably talk about a little deeper.

[00:26:29] Stay true to your principles.

[00:26:32] And then here's another one.

[00:26:33] Be kind and tolerant.

[00:26:35] Basically, low stress ideas to apply to your daily living, which sort of looks like to me.

[00:26:45] Yeah, yeah.

[00:26:46] And I was reading this too.

[00:26:47] And there's some themes here that tie into our friend Martin.

[00:26:50] He's been on a couple of times to talk about sort of how hiking and continuing to stay active is the fount of youth.

[00:26:59] And there's one profile they do in this article about a 107 year old gentleman from Japan that continued to work and cut hair up until his...

[00:27:10] He's actually doing it right now.

[00:27:12] So he's 107 and he's still cutting hair.

[00:27:15] So he's still working, which is cool.

[00:27:17] Do you love what you do?

[00:27:20] I do.

[00:27:21] So my job is...

[00:27:22] Yeah, it's a great job.

[00:27:23] I love it.

[00:27:24] I love the people I work with.

[00:27:26] Is it the dream job?

[00:27:27] No, I think like doing what we do here, like if we can make a living doing this and going out hiking and traveling, that would be ideal.

[00:27:36] Sure, sure.

[00:27:37] Got to pay the bills, right?

[00:27:39] Yeah, well just the fact that we're able to do it to this small degree is pretty nice.

[00:27:43] Yeah, yeah.

[00:27:44] But I hear you.

[00:27:45] Make a couple bucks, but we're not going to be able to retire off this podcast.

[00:27:49] Yeah.

[00:27:50] Yep.

[00:27:51] All right, Snop.

[00:27:53] So next one is a sad story here.

[00:27:56] Missing hikers remains found in Joshua Tree National Park.

[00:27:59] So we covered this story a while back.

[00:28:02] So this goes back to May of 2023.

[00:28:06] So a man who had disappeared nearly a year ago on a long hike in Joshua Tree National Park left behind only a backpack.

[00:28:12] So they've now discovered skeletal remains as of January 25th along the...

[00:28:20] And the coroner believes that these belong to Trammell Evans, a 25-year-old hiker who was missing in the park about three and a half hours south of Las Vegas.

[00:28:30] Yeah.

[00:28:31] So this gentleman was last seen when he was dropped off at the Black Rock Campground around April 30th.

[00:28:37] He was then reported overdue and returning to his trip on May 5th.

[00:28:42] His friends created a Facebook page called Find Tramm, and they posted information on Sunday saying that they are saddened to share that the remains of Tramm Evans have been discovered near Covington Flats in Joshua Tree National Park.

[00:28:56] It looks like he succumbed to complications related to alcohol withdrawal.

[00:29:00] This is where this gets interesting.

[00:29:02] Yeah.

[00:29:03] In his final journal entry, filled with optimism but also concern regarding the symptoms of withdrawal, Tramm expressed his love for everyone, reminded us that love is what life is all about.

[00:29:14] He sought healing through being in nature but underestimated the challenges of his condition.

[00:29:19] Wow.

[00:29:20] Incredible.

[00:29:22] They went on to thank the community for their unwavering support as well as the Fowler O'Sullivan Foundation and Joshua Tree National Park Service for their helps, and they're asking for privacy.

[00:29:34] So that's interesting that they disclosed that essentially it looks like he was going out there to try to detox himself.

[00:29:39] Pretty much.

[00:29:40] Yeah, yeah.

[00:29:41] Yeah.

[00:29:42] Which is not an easy thing to do.

[00:29:44] I mean, I got plenty of alcoholics in my family, but I don't know a lot about—I don't know specifically.

[00:29:51] My understanding is detoxing from alcohol is one of the most difficult drugs to detox off of.

[00:29:57] Yeah, from what I understand too.

[00:29:59] Yeah.

[00:30:00] Incredible.

[00:30:01] So yeah, sad story.

[00:30:03] I wish that he could go—I'm sure he wishes he could go back in time and maybe get some medical guidance on that instead of just going out into nature.

[00:30:11] But I mean, I guess right inclination, it's just from a medical perspective not a good idea.

[00:30:16] Yeah, right.

[00:30:17] And another downer of a story.

[00:30:20] This is interesting though.

[00:30:21] I thought you might like this, Mike, because you're into all this type of stuff.

[00:30:24] Yeah, I got some opinions here.

[00:30:26] So why don't you share the story?

[00:30:28] This is a serial killer story.

[00:30:29] Yeah, well there's suspicion that there's a serial killer perhaps on the loose in or near Austin.

[00:30:37] So 10 bodies have been found—

[00:30:39] Austin, Texas.

[00:30:40] Austin, Texas.

[00:30:41] Correct.

[00:30:42] 10 bodies have been found in an Austin lake over the past 20 months.

[00:30:47] And this is—actually this is Inside Edition.

[00:30:50] I had pulled one local to the area that was a little bit different.

[00:30:54] But yeah, apparently they're finding bodies in this area.

[00:30:57] This Lady Bird Lake apparently stretches six miles through the Texas capital, making it appear more like a river than a lake.

[00:31:04] And it goes on to list the names and some minor descriptions.

[00:31:09] But yeah, what's your take on it?

[00:31:11] I think—so we've covered stories like this in the past because there's been a lot of rumors over the years that there's a serial killer operating in Boston or along the Merrimack River.

[00:31:22] I think in general people tend to—in urban environments where there's water, people tend to fall in whether it's like through suicide or it's through—

[00:31:33] Alcohol.

[00:31:34] Too much consumption of alcohol or, you know, sometimes there is foul play involved as well.

[00:31:40] But what I've seen in most of these cases—so there's been like I think Cincinnati claimed that they had a serial killer.

[00:31:46] Whenever there's these claims of serial killers along bodies of water in urban environments, I tend to see—you know, you read into these articles and you start looking at the names and the circumstances of the people that are put together as potential victims.

[00:32:00] And it's always like, you know, accidental drownings, suicide attempts, and then there's some that are unresolved or, you know, occasionally they'll have a foul play situation that they're investigating.

[00:32:11] But it's like they put everything in the kitchen sink into the explanation for why there's a serial killer.

[00:32:18] But they—serial killers tend to have consistent patterns that you can put together pretty easily.

[00:32:23] So I'm always skeptical in these stories.

[00:32:26] Yeah, yeah, I hear you.

[00:32:28] By the way, a spur of thing, did you see that aged progression of Mara Murray?

[00:32:34] I did.

[00:32:35] What did you think of that?

[00:32:36] She looked like Amy Schumer.

[00:32:37] She did, yeah.

[00:32:38] Yeah, that was going around like doppelganger.

[00:32:41] Very interesting.

[00:32:42] Yeah, I mean, unfortunately, I don't think Mara's alive, but it would be interesting to see what she looks like now.

[00:32:50] Well, there you go.

[00:32:52] She's a famous comic, apparently.

[00:32:54] Yeah.

[00:32:55] I'm trying to think one other thing about this sort of these drowning deaths.

[00:33:01] I lost my train of thought now, Stomp, because you asked me about Mara Murray.

[00:33:06] Yeah, I guess that's it.

[00:33:08] That's all I got to say on it.

[00:33:10] All right.

[00:33:11] All right.

[00:33:12] Well, we shall see if it's a serial killer or if it's just a bunch of people just getting in trouble out there doing what they love.

[00:33:19] Yes.

[00:33:20] Yeah, exactly.

[00:33:21] All right, so this next one is a story out of Hudson, New Hampshire.

[00:33:24] This was breaking news last week.

[00:33:27] We were going to cover this, but we just got into it.

[00:33:29] I was way more interested in talking with Patrick about my Washington.

[00:33:34] We had a car crash into a New Hampshire restaurant with customers dining inside.

[00:33:38] If that happened to you when you were dining, would you insist on getting a free meal?

[00:33:43] You're right.

[00:33:46] No, not at all.

[00:33:48] That's such a strange...

[00:33:50] What happened?

[00:33:52] I mean, I would be absolutely in shock.

[00:33:54] Paying my bill would be the last thing I'd be thinking about.

[00:33:59] Yeah, I think...

[00:34:01] Let me see here.

[00:34:03] So this is in Hudson, New Hampshire.

[00:34:05] Cleanup efforts are underway after a car crashed into a restaurant on Lowell Road on Wednesday of last week.

[00:34:13] So employees of Mickey's New York Pizza called first responders around 1.30 p.m. on Wednesday as they saw a car crash into the dining room section of the restaurant.

[00:34:23] No one inside the restaurant was hurt, something that Tony Nassar, the owner of the restaurant, called a miracle.

[00:34:28] I mean, things happen.

[00:34:33] Yeah, the owner says he isn't sure what happened that led to the crash.

[00:34:38] Oh, okay, here we go.

[00:34:40] I got an opinion on this.

[00:34:42] So police say the driver of the car, an 82-year-old woman from Hudson, was taken to the hospital for non-life-threatening injuries.

[00:34:48] The driver was going south on Lowell Road and lost control and crossed the road and collided with the restaurant.

[00:34:55] That's some serious damage.

[00:34:57] I'm watching the video.

[00:34:58] Yeah, that's impressive.

[00:34:59] So she just went into the opposite lane and just like, ooh.

[00:35:04] Yeah, she went like, I mean, she really threaded the needle because she had to get past a stairway and a tree to get into the perfect location.

[00:35:13] Exactly.

[00:35:14] Maybe she had a medical problem?

[00:35:17] I think it's time for her kids to take the keys away from Grandma.

[00:35:20] For sure.

[00:35:22] That's always a tough thing when the elders have to get the keys taken, but sometimes it's necessary.

[00:35:28] Yeah, yeah, well, I think this one's necessary.

[00:35:31] What gives you that idea?

[00:35:33] I mean, look at this.

[00:35:35] She's probably hungry for a slice. Come on, bro.

[00:35:38] She's pretty good though.

[00:35:39] Like I said, she threaded the needle perfectly because it's not easy to get where she was.

[00:35:44] We should get Dolls and Pops to give us some feedback on this one.

[00:35:49] Oh my God, we should drive a car through Dolls and Pops' pizza place.

[00:35:56] Well, I don't think it's happened yet.

[00:35:58] Knock on wood.

[00:35:59] I hope not.

[00:36:00] We had it happen.

[00:36:02] Oddly enough, an elderly driver, once again, I don't know if that's a pattern, but they drove through our Dunkin' Donuts in Amesbury last year.

[00:36:10] I vaguely remember that one.

[00:36:13] Yeah.

[00:36:14] I think what Dolls and Pops have to worry about more than cars is the fact that they're next to a train track.

[00:36:21] That's even worse.

[00:36:23] Yeah, yeah.

[00:36:24] Yeah.

[00:36:25] But anyway.

[00:36:27] I'll tell you after the show starts, but a guest of ours may or may not have done this before.

[00:36:33] A crash into a pizza place?

[00:36:35] Or into a building.

[00:36:37] Oh, hell yeah.

[00:36:39] We'll have to have this person on, an anonymous guest.

[00:36:42] We'll put the voice changer on.

[00:36:44] They've been a guest.

[00:36:46] I'll tell you later.

[00:36:48] Okay.

[00:36:49] I'll tell you later.

[00:36:50] I may tell you to remove this from the edit.

[00:36:53] That's funny.

[00:36:54] We'll let the audience guess who it may be.

[00:36:57] Anyway, there's a movie coming out about a case that happened in the summer of 1939 on Mount Katahdin.

[00:37:06] So this is the story of, oh jeez, how did I forget his name here?

[00:37:12] I didn't put it in.

[00:37:14] So it's the story of Don Fendler.

[00:37:16] So Don Fendler was a 12-year-old, and he was hiking Mount Katahdin with his family in the summer of 1939.

[00:37:24] There was a storm.

[00:37:25] He got separated from his family, and then he was lost for nine days in the summer of 1939.

[00:37:34] So he made his way down a drainage.

[00:37:39] Okay.

[00:37:41] So he had no food.

[00:37:43] He was able to drink water, obviously.

[00:37:46] The rule of three, right?

[00:37:48] It's like three hours with no shelter, three weeks with no water, three months with no food.

[00:37:55] Three days with no water.

[00:37:57] Oh, three days with no water.

[00:37:58] That's right.

[00:37:59] I forget what it is.

[00:38:00] Anyway, so he lost 16 pounds.

[00:38:01] He was covered in insect bites, but he was able to follow a drainage.

[00:38:05] Eventually, he found a telephone line, and he was able to make his way to a hunting or a fishing cabin.

[00:38:12] And he was located safely after nine days.

[00:38:15] And eventually, he wrote a book called Lost on a Mountain in Maine.

[00:38:18] Wow.

[00:38:19] And it's a pretty common book for, I think, middle school or high school kids to read in Maine.

[00:38:24] So he died in 2016, I think, at the age of 90 years old.

[00:38:28] Interesting.

[00:38:29] But there's a movie coming out about his story.

[00:38:31] I would see this.

[00:38:32] That sounds interesting.

[00:38:33] What's that?

[00:38:34] I would see that.

[00:38:35] That sounds interesting.

[00:38:36] Oh, I would absolutely.

[00:38:37] Yeah.

[00:38:38] I mean, it's really interesting.

[00:38:39] So there's two things about that.

[00:38:40] I mean, before you go into it.

[00:38:41] So if you get lost, people typically get lost on drainages.

[00:38:48] They think it's a trail.

[00:38:49] They follow the drainage down.

[00:38:50] Then all of a sudden, they're in the middle of nowhere.

[00:38:53] But if you remain lost, I mean, that's one way to get down is just to keep on following that drainage, follow the water.

[00:38:58] And that's what happened here apparently, right?

[00:39:00] He followed a drainage and found a telephone line?

[00:39:03] Yeah, he found telephone poles and then just followed his way into a camp apparently.

[00:39:08] Yeah.

[00:39:09] Wow.

[00:39:10] That's super, super lucky.

[00:39:11] Yep.

[00:39:12] Yeah.

[00:39:13] But it took him nine days.

[00:39:14] So these films are interesting because they're really hard to make because I will say like the Society of the Sun, that story about the Uruguayan plane crash.

[00:39:27] These movies can be difficult to make because it's sort of like one person in the woods and you're filming their adventures.

[00:39:35] So how do you keep that entertaining?

[00:39:38] But I think like Society of the Snow, they did a fantastic job with that.

[00:39:42] So it'll be interesting to see how they handled the pacing of a movie like this.

[00:39:47] Yeah, nine days.

[00:39:48] That's a long time.

[00:39:49] And especially finding the right actor too, a young boy.

[00:39:53] Yeah, his name is... let me see.

[00:40:03] It stars Luke David Bloom as Fendler and then... yeah, I don't know who that is.

[00:40:10] I wonder if it's Orlando's prodigy, another Bloom.

[00:40:17] Oh yeah, I don't know.

[00:40:20] Well, looks good. Check it out.

[00:40:22] Doesn't look like he's got much of a resume, so he might be an unknown type of guy.

[00:40:26] Maybe Slasher can rent out a theater and go see it.

[00:40:29] Buy everybody popcorn.

[00:40:31] That would be fun.

[00:40:33] That would be a good time.

[00:40:36] Yes, it would.

[00:40:39] We all know that hiking a mountain can be hard at times.

[00:40:42] So here's a corny dad joke to help you get over it.

[00:40:47] Ba-dum-bum.

[00:40:50] Alright Stomp, this is the part of the show where I do a dad joke and I didn't pick one up ahead of time.

[00:40:54] Oh, damn.

[00:40:55] I know, Mrs. Stomp was telling me you had one that she posted recently but it doesn't work for audio.

[00:41:01] It was a Peter Pan pun.

[00:41:03] Do you remember that one?

[00:41:04] Oh, something like that.

[00:41:06] Alright, so again, thanks to my friends Lance and Camilla for the 365 days of dad jokes.

[00:41:13] Stomp, what musical instrument is found in the bathroom?

[00:41:20] Oh man, I'm always bad at guessing these things.

[00:41:22] I give up.

[00:41:24] A tuba toothpaste.

[00:41:31] They're always so obvious when you hear the answer.

[00:41:34] Oh man, that's a good one.

[00:41:52] Hey, what's that sound?

[00:41:54] It must be time for the pop culture segment with Mike and Stomp.

[00:42:06] Okay Stomp, this is the part of the show where we do pop culture.

[00:42:10] Yeah, we have a bunch of random things going on here.

[00:42:12] I've been busy sort of binging stuff but I just heard the inventor of the Pop-Tarts passed.

[00:42:18] Can you believe it?

[00:42:19] Yeah, that's a loss to the hiking community I feel like.

[00:42:23] I think Pop-Tarts are pretty common food.

[00:42:25] Absolutely.

[00:42:26] So the inventor or co-creator of the Pop-Tarts passed away, rest in peace, Mr. Bill Post.

[00:42:33] Grand Rapids Christian High School graduate.

[00:42:37] He had time in World War II and he's credited with bringing the legendary hiking snack, Pop-Tarts, to life.

[00:42:45] Pop-Tarts, I mean hikers are into that, there's like six year olds are into that,

[00:42:49] and then people that smoke a lot of pot are into those too I think.

[00:42:53] They are fantastic but they are super, super processed, holy moly.

[00:42:58] If you're watching your waistline, I don't know.

[00:43:01] Yeah, it's not great.

[00:43:02] I think I've never had a Pop-Tart in my life.

[00:43:06] Are you serious?

[00:43:07] Never.

[00:43:08] Oh dude, they're so good.

[00:43:09] I don't like fruity pastry.

[00:43:12] Sure, but they have different flavors.

[00:43:14] They have multiple flavors, chocolate, you name it.

[00:43:17] I never, I don't know, I just never, I've never had one.

[00:43:20] Okay, well listeners can send Mike a box of Pop-Tarts.

[00:43:23] I will not eat them.

[00:43:25] PO Box.

[00:43:26] I'll toss them in the trash.

[00:43:27] Are you kidding?

[00:43:28] Nope, I will toss them in the trash.

[00:43:30] Which is odd because I'm not really a picky eater, I just don't like Pop-Tarts.

[00:43:36] Oh, that's too much.

[00:43:39] Okay, well, people are getting rich off the Super Bowl so $7,500 was the cheapest ticket for a Super Bowl ticket?

[00:43:46] What?

[00:43:47] Come on.

[00:43:48] Come on.

[00:43:49] Are you serious?

[00:43:50] $7,500 was the cheapest Super Bowl ticket.

[00:43:53] How does that happen?

[00:43:54] What?

[00:43:55] It's in Las Vegas, I don't know.

[00:43:57] That is crazy.

[00:43:58] I don't know how that works.

[00:43:59] Well, I've noticed that to get a ticket these days there are all kinds of these resale scams and whatever else, but that's a lot of money.

[00:44:07] Holy moly.

[00:44:08] Yeah, I think.

[00:44:09] Go ahead, yeah.

[00:44:10] I think that they have these computer bots that are really good at like buying tickets and stuff, but I don't know about the Super Bowl.

[00:44:16] I feel like the Super Bowl is different.

[00:44:17] Like you have to be like a season ticket holder and they set aside a certain amount for like the San Francisco and Kansas City fans or something.

[00:44:25] I don't really know how that works, but I can tell you I did see a video about the cost of luxury seating.

[00:44:33] So they had these couches where you can fit like 16 people in one couch and eight people in another.

[00:44:38] And they were showing that I think the couch that was in the end zone that's like right in the front row was something like $2 million for 16 people.

[00:44:47] So I don't know, you do the math on that, divide it by that, it's because $150,000 or something, but it's super expensive.

[00:44:53] But apparently in Las Vegas people have a lot of money to blow and they seem to be happy to do that.

[00:45:01] I mean, it's not my thing clearly, but it's expensive.

[00:45:06] Clearly.

[00:45:08] That's nuts, but certainly out of my range.

[00:45:12] I mean, if it was like maybe a thousand bucks cheaper, I'd probably go for it.

[00:45:16] But yeah, maybe if people sent us some coffee, then we'll be able to do that.

[00:45:22] But all right, so next up you have True Detective season four.

[00:45:25] I have never watched the show.

[00:45:27] I know everyone tells me to watch season one.

[00:45:30] Everyone seems to be giving up on season four as best I can tell, but I don't know what your thoughts are.

[00:45:36] Oh man, the first season was great with Matthew McConaughey and Harrison, but the second and third seasons, not so much.

[00:45:44] But this fourth season is very cool, Mike.

[00:45:46] You're going to really dig it if you get into it.

[00:45:48] It mixes the whole Detective Foundation along with the supernatural.

[00:45:55] It's placed in a deep north, winter bound dark location, and it's really good.

[00:46:06] It's phenomenal.

[00:46:08] Getting really great ratings.

[00:46:10] So I don't want to give anything away about it, but it's been phenomenal.

[00:46:15] All right, I heard a lot of people giving up on it, but if you said that you're keeping going, I'm going to keep going.

[00:46:21] I'll watch it then.

[00:46:22] Oh yeah, it's really good.

[00:46:23] Well, if that doesn't work for you, then I've been binging the...

[00:46:26] You're going to laugh at this.

[00:46:27] This is so funny.

[00:46:28] The Sarah Connor Chronicles.

[00:46:29] I didn't even know they existed.

[00:46:31] Yeah, I don't think I've ever watched those.

[00:46:34] Yeah, I made my way through the Terminator series recently, and then I started watching this thing, which I discovered.

[00:46:40] But it's like this two season long thing of the Sarah Connor time in between after she survives the first movie to Judgment Day.

[00:46:50] It's really funny, but the more it goes on, it becomes more like a soap opera.

[00:46:55] It's really funny.

[00:46:57] But yeah, I've been enjoying that.

[00:47:00] All right, well, I've been busy with playing my Harry Potter video games.

[00:47:03] Oh, you're still on that?

[00:47:04] I've been watching too much TV.

[00:47:05] Yeah, I'm still playing.

[00:47:06] Oh, that's great.

[00:47:07] How about that, Wayne?

[00:47:08] I'm level 17 right now, Stomp.

[00:47:10] I got all kinds of magical powers.

[00:47:12] You got the boss levels coming up?

[00:47:14] Like where are you in this?

[00:47:15] Not yet.

[00:47:16] Voldemort?

[00:47:18] Not yet.

[00:47:19] I think I got a couple of months to go.

[00:47:22] Wow, all right.

[00:47:23] Well, did you see the preview for Quiet Place?

[00:47:26] Day one?

[00:47:27] No, what is that?

[00:47:28] Wow, so the Quiet Place series.

[00:47:30] This is Quiet Place 1 and 2 where these aliens attack, and they're sensitive to noise, so everybody has to be silent.

[00:47:36] There's a mouse, but this new one, the preview just dropped, and it looks unbelievable.

[00:47:40] Just incredible effects.

[00:47:41] Is it the one with Sandra Bullock?

[00:47:43] No, no.

[00:47:45] That's Bird Box, right?

[00:47:47] Okay, yeah, yeah.

[00:47:48] Yeah, different concept.

[00:47:49] That's visual.

[00:47:50] This one is hearing.

[00:47:52] This is audio, so these aliens are sensitive to noise, so everybody tiptoes around and is super quiet.

[00:47:59] But this reminds me of a Spielberg type of approach where it's just incredible jump scenes, like just explosive scenes, and the CGI looks top-notch.

[00:48:10] So I'm looking forward to that.

[00:48:11] That's out in June.

[00:48:12] Okay.

[00:48:13] Yeah.

[00:48:14] Hey, any news on Game of Thrones stuff?

[00:48:18] I think it is out later this summer.

[00:48:21] Okay, looking forward to it.

[00:48:22] So I did look at, there was some casting news of people that were being cast, but I haven't really paid much attention.

[00:48:29] But yeah, I think it's like late summer.

[00:48:31] Okay, definitely looking forward to it.

[00:48:34] So that's pop culture.

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[00:50:58] Very cool.

[00:51:01] Yes, yeah, we've got great sponsors.

[00:51:03] Yeah, that's like the first sign of spring.

[00:51:05] Forget Paxatoni filled, the old 48 Peaks plug is the first sign of spring.

[00:51:12] That's true, that's true, but unfortunately it's like minus 30 windchill.

[00:51:18] Mother Nature didn't get the message.

[00:51:30] Hey, hold my beer. It's time to find out what Mike and Stomp are drinking.

[00:51:35] On this week's Beer Talk.

[00:51:43] Okay, Stomp, this is the part of the show where we talk about what beer we are drinking.

[00:51:47] Oh, well, let me go first here, I guess.

[00:51:50] You're going to have to carry both of us tonight.

[00:51:52] Oh, really? Okay, so I'm drinking a Glen Ellis.

[00:51:56] Doesn't that look cool?

[00:51:57] Oh, nice.

[00:51:58] Yeah, so this is by the Schilling Brewery up in Littleton, and it's the Resilience line.

[00:52:05] So it's Glen Ellis, India Pale Ale at 7.2% alcohol volume.

[00:52:11] And it's very, very tasty.

[00:52:13] Trying to get some more details on it, but let's see.

[00:52:16] Yeah, it's a side project.

[00:52:18] The Resilience line is really good, Mike, if you're ever up there and you want to get some four packs or growlers or whatnot.

[00:52:24] So it's a side project of the brewers at Schilling.

[00:52:28] They craft bold and expressive new world beers that embody the struggles and triumphs of our journey.

[00:52:35] Hmm, very cool.

[00:52:37] I like it.

[00:52:38] Awesome.

[00:52:39] Yeah, it's great stuff.

[00:52:40] Don't worry, I got you covered.

[00:52:42] Yeah, yeah, I just, I'm just recovering.

[00:52:46] I don't know if you can hear it in my voice, but I'm just recovering from a little cold.

[00:52:50] Oh, that's a bummer.

[00:52:51] Yeah, I'm just drinking water right now.

[00:52:53] Yeah, no worries.

[00:52:54] It's all good.

[00:52:55] It's all good.

[00:52:56] Yep.

[00:52:57] So I'll be back.

[00:52:58] I did pick up Inspired by Patrick.

[00:53:00] I picked up a four pack of 6288 Tuckerman Stout, but just not ready to drink it yet.

[00:53:07] Sure, sure.

[00:53:09] I knew we should have gone left back there.

[00:53:15] Stomp, don't worry.

[00:53:16] I know it's this way.

[00:53:17] I've got a feeling in my gut.

[00:53:19] Uh, are you sure you're not about to have a bowel emergency?

[00:53:22] Ha, ha, totally.

[00:53:24] We got this.

[00:53:25] But I just blew out my hip.

[00:53:27] Fell down that gully with my 40-year-old micro spikes.

[00:53:30] Suck it up, Stomp.

[00:53:31] It's 4 p.m., we're at 3,500 feet.

[00:53:34] We got nine miles back to the parking lot.

[00:53:36] Your leg may be broken.

[00:53:38] We got no cell connection and we can't feel our fingers.

[00:53:41] But we're finishing all of my list tonight.

[00:53:43] By the way, I need some water.

[00:53:45] I'm empty.

[00:53:46] I would if I could see what I'm doing, but my headlamp batteries are dead.

[00:53:50] You gotta be kidding me.

[00:53:51] What a chump.

[00:53:52] This is the last time I hike with you.

[00:53:54] Ha, whatever, Mr. Do-You-Know-Me-I-Have-A-Podcast.

[00:53:58] Whatever.

[00:54:00] Let's find out what Mike and Stomp have been hiking.

[00:54:08] All right, so what's going on for hikes?

[00:54:11] Recent hikes.

[00:54:12] So this is the part of the show where we do recent hikes.

[00:54:13] So I was able to get up.

[00:54:15] Nobby Hikes ruined my planned hike to go over to Jackson because he lost his gloves.

[00:54:20] So I went back the following weekend.

[00:54:22] So last Saturday, I think it is, I took a co-worker of mine, Felipe, and then Steve from the Cape.

[00:54:31] He joined us, so the three of us formed a little group and went up to the Crawford Path.

[00:54:37] We went straight to the Mount Pierce Summit, and then we went over to MISBA Hut.

[00:54:42] Had a little break there, and then went over from MISBA over to Jackson and then down Jackson.

[00:54:48] So it was a good eight or nine mile hike.

[00:54:51] It was like springtime weather.

[00:54:53] It must have been 60 degrees.

[00:54:55] Yeah, that was the Saturday you said?

[00:54:57] Yeah, you know that open bog area between Jackson and Pierce?

[00:55:02] You get to that boggy area right below Jackson.

[00:55:05] Correct.

[00:55:06] It had to have been 60 degrees right there.

[00:55:08] Oh yeah, there's no wind in there too.

[00:55:10] There's no wind and it was like a bowl of just sun hitting it.

[00:55:13] It was so warm.

[00:55:14] It's really funny because I was guiding that day, and it was so hot.

[00:55:19] I was on Mount Clinton Road because that's open for sledding, and it's a dead end, so I take people down there.

[00:55:25] It was actually the best snow in the area, but it was so hot, dude.

[00:55:29] Holy moly.

[00:55:32] Yeah, yeah, but it was fun.

[00:55:33] It was Felipe's first winter hike, so he's done a lot of hiking with his wife and dogs.

[00:55:39] A lot of waterfall stuff, the whites, but he was like, I really want to go on a winter hike.

[00:55:43] So we planned this weekend months ago.

[00:55:46] I was like, I'll take you.

[00:55:47] Let's just set this as the weekend, and I kept looking at the weather, and I was like, oh, the weather's not going to look that good.

[00:55:53] It's going to be no views, and then I was thinking maybe I'll go down to Moosilauke, and then we'll get a little bit of opening,

[00:55:59] but it was perfect when we got up there.

[00:56:02] Views out to, you couldn't see Mount Washington.

[00:56:04] It was a little cloud cover, but everything else was perfect, and the weather was great.

[00:56:09] He was feeling great.

[00:56:10] You never know what the cardio is going to be like for a new hiker.

[00:56:13] He had never used snowshoes before, so that was the one thing.

[00:56:16] We had to wear snowshoes once we got up to the summit.

[00:56:20] The section between Pierce and Mizpah was like post-Whole City if you weren't wearing snowshoes, so we all had snowshoes, which is good.

[00:56:28] I bet, yeah.

[00:56:29] Then the section between Mizpah and Jackson would have been impossible to do without snowshoes.

[00:56:35] You would have been stepping in like crazy.

[00:56:37] Falling in, yeah.

[00:56:39] Well, that's cool.

[00:56:40] That's the second time you've been up there in two weeks, right?

[00:56:43] Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[00:56:44] I'm kind of done with that area to now.

[00:56:48] Had enough.

[00:56:49] Yeah, that's good.

[00:56:50] Yeah, it was fun, and I brought my sled.

[00:56:52] We were sledding down.

[00:56:53] There was a high school group there from Westford.

[00:56:57] We were going back and forth with them.

[00:56:59] They thought the sleds were pretty cool, so it was good.

[00:57:02] Awesome.

[00:57:03] Yeah, well, I was just busy guiding.

[00:57:05] Saturday, it was so warm that the snow melted, and they should have called it Saturday, but we showed up Sunday morning.

[00:57:13] We had a couple groups of people show up, and it had frozen solid, but it was not groomed, so you can imagine what that's like.

[00:57:21] All the divots and rivets and just everything frozen solid.

[00:57:26] What we try to do is we'll go out quick for maybe half an hour.

[00:57:30] I went south towards Zealand Road, and my other buddy went towards Jefferson Notch just to check out the conditions, and we called it.

[00:57:39] I mean, it was so dangerous.

[00:57:41] It was just unmaneuverable.

[00:57:44] The good news is that we're open again for the weekend, so that's exciting.

[00:57:47] I'm looking forward to that.

[00:57:48] They're getting like four inches tonight, so that should be enough to get us going again.

[00:57:52] Oh, it's good.

[00:57:53] Yeah.

[00:57:54] It's good.

[00:57:55] So you think you're going to be able to get out there?

[00:57:57] Yeah, no doubt.

[00:57:58] Yeah, it doesn't take much to resurrect it, but if you've been reading the fishing game reports, holy moly, there's been a lot of crashes.

[00:58:06] There's just too many to even cover for the search and rescue section.

[00:58:10] Yeah, a lot of rentals.

[00:58:12] Yeah, yeah, for sure.

[00:58:14] But anyway.

[00:58:15] Keep them safe out there, Stomp.

[00:58:16] Yep.

[00:58:17] Doing my best, doing my best.

[00:58:19] Oh, by the way, I got my pack.

[00:58:20] I got my low pack.

[00:58:22] Oh, yeah, yeah.

[00:58:23] I saw a video of you displaying it.

[00:58:26] Oh, yeah, yeah.

[00:58:27] I'm really excited about it.

[00:58:29] It's more of a rucksack.

[00:58:30] It doesn't have the side zippers, but that's fine.

[00:58:33] Yeah, I'm super impressed with it.

[00:58:35] It looks smaller than 65 liters, but yeah, it's fine with me.

[00:58:41] And yeah, we'll try it out soon.

[00:58:43] Can't wait to check it out.

[00:58:45] Right on.

[00:58:47] Look what I have.

[00:58:48] What do you have?

[00:58:49] Obviously, this is a podcast and not a video, but I've got these like down booty things.

[00:58:55] Yeah, these are great down boots for camp, right?

[00:58:59] Yep, when I get to the hut.

[00:59:01] Okay.

[00:59:02] And I gotta wake up at two in the morning, wake everybody up to go pee.

[00:59:06] I'm gonna put on my down booties and hopefully not make too much noise.

[00:59:10] That should be a great time.

[00:59:11] That should be a great time.

[00:59:19] It's time for Slasher's Notable Hike of the Week.

[00:59:23] If you want to be considered for the hike of the week, simply tag Slasher on your social media post.

[00:59:30] All right, Snop, we have a whole backlog of notable listener hikes of the week here that we're going to get through.

[00:59:37] Yes, so if you want to tag Slasher for your adventure, do so and we will consider you for Slasher's Hike of the Week.

[00:59:44] And let's see, let's start with Liz Faye.

[00:59:47] Liz Faye hiked Bald Mountain in Stoddard.

[00:59:51] Oh, nice.

[00:59:52] Yeah, Mountain Ginger, hiked up Indian Head solo, which that's a beautiful hike, especially if you're a solo hiker and you want to try something and get a little brave on your own for your first solo.

[01:00:04] It's a great hike.

[01:00:06] E.C. Banks hikes, got up lonesome and he's nursing a knee.

[01:00:11] Ethan, I wish you the best and hope that's healing up for you because you've got a busy running season coming up very shortly.

[01:00:18] Don't run through the pain, rest.

[01:00:20] Yeah, rest it up.

[01:00:21] It's the time of the year.

[01:00:23] Gingerbeard Keen hiked Mariah for 41 out of the winter 48 and also did Madison and Adams, which he called Maddams.

[01:00:32] That's pretty funny.

[01:00:33] I'd never heard that before.

[01:00:34] That's a good one.

[01:00:35] I've never heard that.

[01:00:36] For 42 and 43.

[01:00:39] What Donna Hamilton photographs hiked North and South Doublehead.

[01:00:43] That area looks beautiful.

[01:00:45] I got to get over there.

[01:00:47] Yeah, yeah.

[01:00:48] I've never been over there in winter.

[01:00:49] I've only been on that in the summer.

[01:00:52] Yeah, I've seen it from different peaks and they look beautiful.

[01:00:57] We got tagged a couple of times by Carrie Burrell.

[01:01:01] She tagged us for North and Mid Tri-Pyramid for 29 and 30 for the winter 48 and then just recently did North and South Twin for 32 and 33.

[01:01:11] Seems like she's going for it.

[01:01:12] Yeah, she is.

[01:01:13] Yeah, for sure.

[01:01:15] Coco Gorm hiked Mount Washington and it was an attempt.

[01:01:18] They attempted to go up to the summit by Lion's Head and ultimately had to turn back.

[01:01:23] Laura Eli, Little Beehive, Lake Louise and brought along Barbie.

[01:01:30] Oh, that's a trend.

[01:01:31] I like it.

[01:01:33] We don't want this site to turn into a Barbie site.

[01:01:36] We already had.

[01:01:37] I do.

[01:01:38] We already had a cat site.

[01:01:39] Everyone post Barbie.

[01:01:41] I'm a Barbie fan.

[01:01:43] Oh, all right.

[01:01:44] Let's see here.

[01:01:46] Nature Boy 603.

[01:01:48] Woo.

[01:01:49] Hiked the Hancocks.

[01:01:50] You know what that is?

[01:01:51] Nature Boy 603.

[01:01:52] No, I don't.

[01:01:54] You know the Nature Boy, Ric Flair?

[01:01:56] No, I have no idea.

[01:01:58] No, I know who Ric Flair is.

[01:01:59] He's a comic, right?

[01:02:01] No, no.

[01:02:03] You're never going to be able to play the poker game with me.

[01:02:04] He's a professional wrestler.

[01:02:06] No, that's right.

[01:02:07] I saw him recently.

[01:02:08] I say comic because he was on the Kill Tony show recently.

[01:02:10] That's why I said that.

[01:02:12] Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[01:02:13] But his big thing is he's like, woo.

[01:02:14] He makes that noise.

[01:02:16] Okay.

[01:02:17] So you said Nature Boy.

[01:02:18] I immediately said, woo.

[01:02:19] But you didn't get it because you're not a bro-bro.

[01:02:21] Oh my God.

[01:02:22] Have you seen him lately?

[01:02:24] I'm not.

[01:02:25] I'm totally not.

[01:02:26] But he's fried, dude.

[01:02:27] That guy is fried.

[01:02:29] Oh yeah.

[01:02:31] He's like his blood is like 50% alcohol.

[01:02:35] I would guess.

[01:02:36] Holy moly.

[01:02:38] All right.

[01:02:39] Nature Boy 603.

[01:02:40] So Hancocks 11 and 12 for the single season 48.

[01:02:42] That's pretty cool.

[01:02:44] And that would be the winter season.

[01:02:46] It's getting late though, isn't it?

[01:02:47] For the single season?

[01:02:49] Yep, I suppose.

[01:02:51] Yeah, who knows?

[01:02:53] And then our fav, Dave Shits in the Woods.

[01:02:55] He did Ragged Mountain and Ragged West.

[01:02:57] And it was funny when I was looking through this list earlier,

[01:02:59] I didn't see his name.

[01:03:01] I'm like, oh my God, he didn't tag us.

[01:03:03] Then sure enough, I saw this one in the middle here.

[01:03:05] So Ragged Mountain.

[01:03:07] I'm not sure where that is.

[01:03:09] That's not a ski place, is it?

[01:03:11] I'm not sure.

[01:03:13] Huh.

[01:03:15] You have to message him and find out.

[01:03:17] All righty.

[01:03:19] So you got a couple more here.

[01:03:21] The Dynamic Duo hit Franconia Ridge.

[01:03:23] List for you again.

[01:03:25] Solo Up Moose and South Peak on a Bluebird Day.

[01:03:27] Laurie Eli.

[01:03:29] Dog sledding in Banff.

[01:03:31] There you go.

[01:03:33] That's what we're looking for for these tags.

[01:03:35] That's pretty fresh.

[01:03:37] Absolutely.

[01:03:39] That might have to be the one.

[01:03:41] We'll see.

[01:03:43] We'll keep going.

[01:03:45] That may be the winter.

[01:03:47] You know that you can do this here in New Hampshire.

[01:03:49] There are teams of dogs that go out in Randolph.

[01:03:51] If you're curious about trying that.

[01:03:53] It is available in New England.

[01:03:55] That's great.

[01:03:57] So hiking feeds my soul.

[01:03:59] Mount Potash with Miles the Dog for 26 out of 52.

[01:04:03] Full strength coffee tackled north and mid Tri-Pyramid.

[01:04:06] That's a popular route, huh?

[01:04:08] Via Pine Bend Brook.

[01:04:11] SS Skinner 519 finished second round of the 48 on Mount Cabot.

[01:04:17] And he was listening.

[01:04:19] He or she was listening to the podcast.

[01:04:21] Much appreciated.

[01:04:23] Every download counts.

[01:04:25] Little Foot Tri-Pyramids once again for 47 out of 48.

[01:04:29] L.B. Boyd, Mount Jackson.

[01:04:31] And apparently met some guy named Mike who has a podcast.

[01:04:36] Yeah, that's Laura.

[01:04:38] So that was fun.

[01:04:40] That was actually perfect timing, Laura, because I was with my co-worker.

[01:04:43] And I don't think he knew.

[01:04:45] He knew I had a podcast, but I don't think it didn't connect with him.

[01:04:48] People actually listened to it.

[01:04:50] And it was cool to be in the parking lot.

[01:04:52] And she was like, hi.

[01:04:54] So I think Felipe was kind of like, what's going on?

[01:04:58] It was great to meet Laura.

[01:05:00] Oh, super cool.

[01:05:02] And then I think finally here we have Gingerbeard.

[01:05:04] And he did a C-Bonds Traverse.

[01:05:06] And he argues that Gio is the crown jewel, quote unquote, of the Traverse.

[01:05:11] And I say, do you agree?

[01:05:14] I think there is competition.

[01:05:15] I mean, Bond Cliff is epic.

[01:05:17] And then I think West Bond, I mean, it's tough.

[01:05:19] That's a bold statement.

[01:05:22] Well, Gio for its view is neat, but it reminds me of Mount Hyatt.

[01:05:26] That's the competition I would cite as being similar to Gio and as spectacular,

[01:05:32] but maybe not as broad and large as Gio is.

[01:05:35] Yeah.

[01:05:37] Oh boy.

[01:05:39] I got a lot of friends on this list.

[01:05:41] So full strength coffee, but I'm not sure if you're going to get any.

[01:05:45] By the way, I also saw him on, he didn't post us, he didn't tag us on this,

[01:05:49] but he was out with the 48, the veterans on the 48 crew on Mount Pierce.

[01:05:54] So I saw him.

[01:05:56] But I think the, all right, I'm going to go the dog sledding in Banff.

[01:06:00] So Laura, Eli.

[01:06:02] There you go.

[01:06:04] There it is.

[01:06:06] I feel bad, like there's Littlefoots on there and Gingerbeard.

[01:06:08] What about Dave?

[01:06:10] Camilla and Lance are on there.

[01:06:12] No, Dave, no.

[01:06:13] He doesn't get one, but everybody, I mean, oh.

[01:06:16] All right, Laura, Eli, dog sledding in Banff.

[01:06:19] She gets it.

[01:06:21] All right.

[01:06:23] You know, it's a burden, but you got to, somebody's got to carry it, Mike.

[01:06:25] You're a good man.

[01:06:27] I'm sorry, Camilla and Lance.

[01:06:29] I love you guys, but it's just, it's not dog sledding in Banff.

[01:06:31] Correct.

[01:06:33] Correct.

[01:06:35] Okay.

[01:06:37] All right.

[01:06:39] Moving on to the next segment.

[01:06:40] Slashers hiking topic of the week.

[01:06:42] I had a couple of like history segments and stuff like that, but I don't,

[01:06:44] I feel like I need more time.

[01:06:46] Oh, of course.

[01:06:52] We don't have the time tonight.

[01:06:54] So I thought that it would be cool just to talk through the planning for a

[01:06:56] winter AMC hut stay, especially considering it's going to be super cold here.

[01:07:00] Yeah.

[01:07:02] Important.

[01:07:04] Yeah.

[01:07:06] So I'm in the middle of doing this right now.

[01:07:08] Matter of fact, you answered my question about the winter AMC hut stay.

[01:07:10] I'm in the middle of doing it.

[01:07:11] I'm in the middle of doing this right now.

[01:07:13] Matter of fact, you interrupted my planning with this dumb, dumb podcast.

[01:07:15] So I was just looking at the map.

[01:07:17] So it looks like it's a three and a half mile road walk.

[01:07:19] So we got to park and then walk up the road to Zealand.

[01:07:21] And then it's another three miles to get into the winter hut.

[01:07:23] So for AMC, the winter huts are self-service.

[01:07:25] So there is a caretaker there, but essentially you're kind of on your own

[01:07:27] as far as cooking and, and everything.

[01:07:29] So you're not going to be able to do that.

[01:07:31] You're not going to be able to do that.

[01:07:33] So I'm going to go ahead and talk about the winter AMC hut stay.

[01:07:35] So I'm going to start with the winter AMC hut stay.

[01:07:37] So I'm going to start with the winter AMC hut stay.

[01:07:38] But essentially you're kind of on your own as far as cooking.

[01:07:40] And there is water available at the hut.

[01:07:42] And there's bathroom facilities as well, but it's unheated.

[01:07:44] I think they do run a stove for a couple of hours at night.

[01:07:46] So if you're going to go there, the way we're going to time this out

[01:07:48] is we're going to try to get there by like five o'clock or so.

[01:07:50] And then, you know, the sun will be setting

[01:07:52] and then the stove will go on and we'll hang out.

[01:07:54] I'm going to bring an extra battery pack with me

[01:07:56] so I can listen to a podcast or two.

[01:07:58] And then I'm going to go in and I'm going to go in

[01:08:00] and I'm going to go in and I'm going to go in

[01:08:02] and I'm going to go in and I'm going to go in

[01:08:04] and I'm going to go in and I'm going to go in

[01:08:05] and I'm going to go in and I'm going to go in

[01:08:07] and I'm going to go in and I'm going to go in

[01:08:09] and I'm going to go in and I'm going to go in

[01:08:11] and I'm going to go in and I'm going to go in

[01:08:13] And I don't think there's cell connection in Zealand.

[01:08:15] I mean, maybe there is, but I'm not going to rely on it.

[01:08:19] But yeah, that's essentially it.

[01:08:21] And then you pay $40 if you're a non member

[01:08:23] and like $30 if you're a member

[01:08:25] to get a spot in a bunkhouse, which is unheated.

[01:08:27] So what I'm bringing is, you know,

[01:08:29] just a little bit of a firewood.

[01:08:31] And then we'll just have a nice little bit

[01:08:33] of an outdoor area.

[01:08:35] is my zero degree sleeping bag.

[01:08:37] And then depending on how much extra weight I have,

[01:08:39] I may bring my 20 degree quilt and just double up

[01:08:42] because that thing is so light

[01:08:44] that I can just sort of wrap it around

[01:08:46] because I'm a little bit nervous

[01:08:47] about how cold it's gonna be.

[01:08:49] No kidding.

[01:08:50] Yeah, wow.

[01:08:52] But the other thing I could do is try to use that bivy

[01:08:54] that you talked about.

[01:08:56] And in case your bag.

[01:08:58] But see, that's the question I have.

[01:09:00] It's like the bivy is going to capture condensation.

[01:09:03] Yeah.

[01:09:04] So that's probably not ideal.

[01:09:07] Right.

[01:09:07] So I'll probably just go with my zero degree bag

[01:09:10] and maybe bring my 20 degree and just double up

[01:09:13] because it's so light.

[01:09:15] And I don't have to bring a sleeping pad,

[01:09:19] so I'm gonna bring a sit pad.

[01:09:24] So yeah, I think that I'll bring my pillow and...

[01:09:30] What do you mean pillow?

[01:09:31] That's pretty much.

[01:09:32] A large pillow?

[01:09:34] I have a little blow up pillow that I use.

[01:09:35] Oh, gotcha.

[01:09:36] Okay.

[01:09:37] Yeah.

[01:09:38] That's pretty cool.

[01:09:39] What are you doing?

[01:09:40] I did plan for cooking, Snob.

[01:09:42] I was just gonna ask you that.

[01:09:44] Are you bringing a stove?

[01:09:46] So the way it works is you can't use a stove

[01:09:48] inside the huts as far as I understand.

[01:09:51] They have a propane stove that you can use

[01:09:56] and you sign up to access it in 30 minute increments.

[01:10:00] Yeah.

[01:10:01] So your group can sign up and then you have to use

[01:10:05] their water for cleaning the pots and stuff

[01:10:08] and your silverware.

[01:10:09] Okay.

[01:10:10] So what I typically do and what my friend Jonathan

[01:10:14] taught me this is you make a stew

[01:10:17] or some sort of shredded meat, whatever the meal is.

[01:10:23] What I did this time is sometimes I'll make beef stew

[01:10:25] with potatoes and carrots and whatever,

[01:10:28] but this time what I did is I did,

[01:10:32] it's like a cheddar cheese, chicken and rice mix

[01:10:36] in the crock pot.

[01:10:37] So I take like three chicken breasts.

[01:10:40] I take two cans of cream of chicken soup

[01:10:43] and then a can of cheddar cheese soup,

[01:10:46] cook those down in the crock pot.

[01:10:48] Then I put a thing of rice in them.

[01:10:50] So I've got the chicken and the rice.

[01:10:52] I shred the chicken up and then simmer it down

[01:10:56] so it's basically like a thick kind of paste.

[01:10:59] And then from there I can freeze it in the shape of my pot.

[01:11:03] Yeah.

[01:11:04] You know, I put it in my pot and I freeze it in that shape

[01:11:07] in a plastic bag.

[01:11:09] And then when I get to the hut,

[01:11:10] I'll pour a little bit of water in it

[01:11:13] and then reheat it up.

[01:11:15] So it's sort of like a shredded chicken and rice meal

[01:11:19] and it's really hearty and it's good.

[01:11:21] Yeah, it sounds great.

[01:11:22] It's a good method.

[01:11:23] Yeah.

[01:11:24] And then we're going to bring some bread with us

[01:11:25] so we'll have that.

[01:11:26] All right.

[01:11:28] So yeah, so that's it.

[01:11:28] But you can do that in the crock pot with anything.

[01:11:30] Like you can do beef stew,

[01:11:31] you just simmer it down so that it's not a lot of liquid.

[01:11:36] You can do that with like shredded beef, anything.

[01:11:40] So it works out.

[01:11:41] All right.

[01:11:42] Interesting.

[01:11:43] So who's going with you?

[01:11:45] I've got Steve from the Cape.

[01:11:48] I got Shakespeare and our friend Peter.

[01:11:52] Okay, awesome.

[01:11:53] Yeah, sorry I can't go.

[01:11:56] Yeah, so we're all pretty experienced

[01:11:57] and then with the weather situation,

[01:11:59] the goal is to do a Z-Bonds traverse.

[01:12:02] We're all kind of in agreement.

[01:12:03] We all were exchanging messages

[01:12:05] and we're all sort of like,

[01:12:06] we just want to do the overnight and have fun.

[01:12:08] If the wind chill is going to remain at like minus 35 degrees

[01:12:13] and the wind conditions look like

[01:12:15] they're going to be pretty fast,

[01:12:16] like we're not going to cross the bonds.

[01:12:18] Hell no.

[01:12:19] So we'll just hike up to Hill and then call it a day.

[01:12:23] Oh, which is interesting too

[01:12:24] because with the forecast of snow,

[01:12:26] you're talking about like a 25% chance

[01:12:29] according to basic ground level forecast.

[01:12:31] So it could be pretty gnarly up there.

[01:12:34] Yeah, exactly.

[01:12:36] Yeah.

[01:12:37] If assuming that the weather doesn't change

[01:12:40] and the reports don't change,

[01:12:41] then it's probably a no-go.

[01:12:43] I mean, we do have a car in Lincoln Woods,

[01:12:45] but it's very likely a no-go.

[01:12:47] And I think the good thing about this group

[01:12:50] is that we've all sort of communicated ahead of time.

[01:12:52] None of us are going to force anybody to say like,

[01:12:55] oh, well I'm doing it and you got to come along.

[01:12:58] It's like we're just settling on,

[01:13:01] it's probably not going to be a traverse

[01:13:02] and we'll just go up to Mount Hill

[01:13:04] or we'll go up to Zealand and come back

[01:13:05] and then call it a day.

[01:13:07] Yeah, yeah.

[01:13:08] That sounds reasonable.

[01:13:10] Yeah.

[01:13:10] Yep.

[01:13:11] Interesting.

[01:13:13] I've got my instant coffee with me for breakfast.

[01:13:16] I'll bring probably some sort of a,

[01:13:21] I usually bring like a pre-made,

[01:13:25] just pour water in and eggs and bacon or something like that.

[01:13:28] So I'll bring that.

[01:13:30] Do you bother boiling water for your Nalgene

[01:13:33] so you can stick it in your sleeping bag?

[01:13:36] That's really handy if you're chilly.

[01:13:38] I've done that before.

[01:13:40] Yeah.

[01:13:41] So I may do that.

[01:13:43] Yep.

[01:13:44] We'll see.

[01:13:46] Yeah, that definitely works.

[01:13:47] I've got those electric hand warmers as well

[01:13:49] that I'm going to put into my socks

[01:13:52] to see how those go.

[01:13:53] And I'll have a bunch of other hand warmers available.

[01:13:57] I'm bringing earplugs.

[01:13:59] Yeah, he's snoring, guests.

[01:14:03] Yeah, yeah.

[01:14:04] I was thinking about bringing some beer

[01:14:05] but I'm afraid the beer is going to freeze

[01:14:07] as we hike in there and it'll explode.

[01:14:09] So I'm not going to mess around with that.

[01:14:10] So.

[01:14:11] Tell you what, I'll bring up some pizza and beer

[01:14:13] on my snowmobile straight to the hut for you.

[01:14:16] Yeah, I appreciate that.

[01:14:17] That's a good deal.

[01:14:20] What else is there?

[01:14:22] So yeah, I think that the earplugs is going to be critical.

[01:14:28] The biggest thing I'm worried about

[01:14:30] and I always get nervous about is like my contact lenses

[01:14:32] and my glasses situation.

[01:14:34] So I don't want to have to wear glasses.

[01:14:36] So I want to make sure I can get my contact lenses

[01:14:38] in in the morning.

[01:14:39] Are you planning on?

[01:14:40] That's always a tricky thing.

[01:14:41] Okay, so that's really interesting.

[01:14:43] So do you wear goggles all day long then

[01:14:46] to protect your contacts?

[01:14:50] No, no, I don't need to.

[01:14:51] I just like, it's difficult.

[01:14:52] I take them out when I go to bed

[01:14:54] and then I've got to put a new pair in.

[01:14:57] Yeah, I've got to put in a new pair of contact lenses

[01:15:00] in the morning.

[01:15:01] So it's difficult to put them in when it's that cold

[01:15:03] because it can literally freeze that quickly.

[01:15:06] Okay, but no cold subzero weather

[01:15:08] doesn't affect your contacts just in general?

[01:15:10] No, no, no, it doesn't.

[01:15:12] Okay.

[01:15:12] It just, you know, they're attached to your eyeballs

[01:15:15] so they stay heated.

[01:15:16] They're heated by your eyeballs.

[01:15:18] Correct, yeah.

[01:15:19] Interesting.

[01:15:20] So yeah, so it'd be good.

[01:15:22] I mean, I'm going to be pretty heavy.

[01:15:24] It just is what it is.

[01:15:25] I'd rather be comfortable and carry in some extra weight

[01:15:28] than to be cold and uncomfortable and hungry.

[01:15:31] So I'll bring more food than I need.

[01:15:33] I'll bring more sleeping stuff than I need.

[01:15:35] But you know that from my perspective,

[01:15:37] that's the better way to do it

[01:15:39] is to bring the stuff you need to be comfortable

[01:15:42] to stay at the hut.

[01:15:44] Of course, yeah.

[01:15:45] Well, either way, it'll be a really nice time.

[01:15:47] Nice time spent with some good people.

[01:15:49] Yes, yep.

[01:15:50] And you know, following recent events,

[01:15:52] you got to play it safe,

[01:15:54] especially with this type of scenario.

[01:15:56] Absolutely.

[01:15:57] Yeah, no doubt about it.

[01:15:58] No doubt about it.

[01:15:59] I mean, it's just like,

[01:16:00] I looked at the Higher Summits forecast yesterday

[01:16:04] and then I looked at it this morning

[01:16:05] and then I hear you reading it again tonight

[01:16:07] and it's like, it's just, this isn't the weekend.

[01:16:10] True, true, true that.

[01:16:12] But we're all looking forward

[01:16:14] to the picture of you on the hut,

[01:16:18] on top of the roof.

[01:16:19] Yes.

[01:16:20] Oh yeah, yeah, the naked hiker on the roof.

[01:16:22] Yelling at everybody.

[01:16:23] Just kidding.

[01:16:25] Exactly, well.

[01:16:26] We're not encouraging that.

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[01:18:22] Hey, we gotta get through this search and rescue

[01:18:23] so you can get some hot tea and go to bed.

[01:18:26] Right, right, so I gotta pack up, so.

[01:18:28] Yeah, let's do this.

[01:18:29] So, a couple of national news articles here, Stomp.

[01:19:07] So this happened in January 22nd,

[01:19:12] Waterfall Canyon in Colorado.

[01:19:20] There was a, so this was a snowboarder.

[01:19:23] And this is interesting,

[01:19:25] so this is the Colorado Avalanche Information Center.

[01:19:27] So they give a bunch of background on the conditions

[01:19:30] and some of the tests that they run.

[01:19:34] But essentially, this was a friend's reported

[01:19:37] that a rider was overdue on the evening of January 22nd.

[01:19:41] So San Miguel Search and Rescue

[01:19:43] flew an unmanned aerial drone for a search,

[01:19:47] but they were unable to complete a thorough search

[01:19:49] before nightfall.

[01:19:50] So a friend of the rider went up and followed his tracks

[01:19:55] up a well-used route to the top of a frequently skied slope.

[01:20:00] The friends saw a single set of tracks descending the slope,

[01:20:02] but it was too dangerous to descend.

[01:20:04] So he returned to Ophir,

[01:20:07] which is like the town that they were close to.

[01:20:10] And then on the morning of January 23rd,

[01:20:13] Telluride Helitrax flew San Miguel Search and Rescue members

[01:20:18] into the area and they were able to locate

[01:20:20] the snowboarder's body from the air.

[01:20:27] And they were able to recover him.

[01:20:28] So it looks like it was a fatal avalanche accident

[01:20:34] and they were able to reconstruct it from the site evidence.

[01:20:38] And it looks like he was descending the slope

[01:20:40] and probably triggered the avalanche high

[01:20:42] in the starting zone.

[01:20:44] The avalanche flushed him through a sparsely treed gully.

[01:20:47] So, you know, the snow gained mass

[01:20:51] as it flowed over a bench lower in the track.

[01:20:54] The rider was partially buried near the toe of the debris

[01:20:58] and his snowboard was broken

[01:20:59] and he sustained traumatic injuries during the avalanche.

[01:21:02] So it's interesting.

[01:21:03] It looks like he traveled about five or 600 feet

[01:21:06] below the toe of the avalanche.

[01:21:08] So that's something I would consider.

[01:21:09] Like I always consider people just get buried and suffocate,

[01:21:12] but sometimes you can have traumatic injuries

[01:21:14] just from the snow itself.

[01:21:16] Oh, of course.

[01:21:16] It's so heavy.

[01:21:17] Yeah.

[01:21:18] Yeah, that's a shame.

[01:21:21] Yep.

[01:21:22] So that's the risk of back country snowboarding.

[01:21:25] His buddy found, you know, found the tracks,

[01:21:27] but they just couldn't get down.

[01:21:28] And unfortunately it was too late by then anyway.

[01:21:30] Right, right.

[01:21:32] All right, Snoke.

[01:21:33] So this next one is a weird one.

[01:21:37] 27 year old experienced hiker vanishes

[01:21:40] preparing for a 200 mile trek.

[01:21:42] Wow.

[01:21:43] So Arizona.

[01:21:44] 27 year old avid hiker disappeared

[01:21:46] after gathering supplies for a trek in Arizona.

[01:21:51] So Derek Bowling was last heard January 22nd

[01:21:54] preparing for his trip in Lake Havasu,

[01:21:58] according to the Sheriff's office post.

[01:22:02] So Bowling is the gentleman's name,

[01:22:04] had plans for a week long hike

[01:22:05] that would take him about 200 miles

[01:22:07] through remote desert and mountains.

[01:22:09] Wow.

[01:22:10] The hike would start east of Havasu

[01:22:11] and would take him towards Kingman, Arizona.

[01:22:14] He's an avid experienced hiker,

[01:22:18] but deputies said he was overdue.

[01:22:21] He didn't even leave.

[01:22:24] It sounds like he just disappeared like before he left.

[01:22:26] Yeah.

[01:22:27] Yeah, they don't know.

[01:22:28] He's five foot seven, 161 pounds,

[01:22:30] long brown hair and blue eyes

[01:22:32] and they're looking for him.

[01:22:33] Yeah.

[01:22:34] They included photos that have the gear

[01:22:36] that he might have with him,

[01:22:37] but yeah, they don't know if he actually left

[01:22:39] or if he was just planning on the hike.

[01:22:42] So who knows what happened?

[01:22:43] Wow, that's very strange.

[01:22:45] I mean, he could have,

[01:22:46] I don't know if they didn't mention anything

[01:22:47] about his vehicle.

[01:22:49] True.

[01:22:50] Yeah.

[01:22:51] So that usually that would be the first thing

[01:22:53] they would look for is the vehicle

[01:22:55] that he's associated with.

[01:22:58] Right.

[01:22:59] Right.

[01:23:00] Yeah.

[01:23:02] As if he left it at a trailhead or something like that,

[01:23:05] but I think he hadn't even left.

[01:23:08] Maybe it's-

[01:23:09] Yeah, well we'll keep an eye out for,

[01:23:11] did you look, when did you pull the story storm?

[01:23:13] Did you look for any updates?

[01:23:15] No, I have not.

[01:23:16] No, this was a recent one though.

[01:23:18] Within a week.

[01:23:21] Okay.

[01:23:22] Yeah, I mean just a quick look here,

[01:23:25] it just shows that he's still missing.

[01:23:27] Okay.

[01:23:28] No change.

[01:23:29] Yeah, unfortunately.

[01:23:31] So we'll keep an eye on this one.

[01:23:32] Okay.

[01:23:34] We talked about this before, Stomp,

[01:23:35] around sort of thermal imaging

[01:23:38] and the use of this technology.

[01:23:41] So Jackpot, watch a heat-seeking drone

[01:23:43] find a New York hiker.

[01:23:45] So this is a video of how drone technology

[01:23:48] was able to locate this hiker

[01:23:50] using heat-seeking technology.

[01:23:53] So a New York man safe after falling through the ice

[01:23:56] on a frozen marsh in upstate New York

[01:23:58] and it's all thanks to 21st century technology.

[01:24:01] Winter weather poses many dangers to outdoor enthusiasts

[01:24:04] with frostbite and hypothermia

[01:24:06] proving to be two of the most fatal.

[01:24:08] Yeah.

[01:24:09] This particular hiker had fallen through ice

[01:24:11] roughly an inch and a half thick

[01:24:12] and was practically invisible to the human eye.

[01:24:15] Luckily, New York State Department

[01:24:16] of Environmental Conservation

[01:24:18] was able to call in the reinforcements.

[01:24:21] He was walking along this marshy area

[01:24:23] and hip waders when he fell through,

[01:24:26] the waders flooded.

[01:24:30] So he had to remove those, move around to keep warm

[01:24:34] and then call 911, but they couldn't spot the guy.

[01:24:37] Yeah.

[01:24:38] So I guess they were able to,

[01:24:40] he was able to call 911

[01:24:42] but they didn't know exactly where he was.

[01:24:44] So they kind of had an idea

[01:24:46] but they were able to get the drone out there

[01:24:51] and then they were able to find him.

[01:24:52] So it took an impressively short 55 minutes

[01:24:56] between the response and the location of the subject

[01:24:58] who was experiencing mild hypothermia

[01:25:00] when he was reached by rescue crews.

[01:25:02] It's crazy.

[01:25:02] So pretty lucky guy.

[01:25:04] Yeah, you look at the images though

[01:25:06] and they circle where he is in the image

[01:25:08] and I can't see a person.

[01:25:11] It looks like a little like white spot.

[01:25:12] Oh yeah, it's crazy.

[01:25:14] And we know that we have the AI now looking at this data

[01:25:19] and finding people perhaps quicker,

[01:25:22] but I don't know man, this guy's really lucky.

[01:25:26] It's like a little spot for sure,

[01:25:28] but apparently they can use a drone

[01:25:30] and then eventually if they add AI to it,

[01:25:32] the AI can pinpoint and say,

[01:25:34] these are the likely spots of the images

[01:25:36] where someone might be.

[01:25:37] You hear a lot about these waiter incidents

[01:25:39] where waiters fill up and suck people down the rivers

[01:25:42] and they're done.

[01:25:43] That's pretty terrifying.

[01:25:45] Yeah, I don't,

[01:25:47] I mean, fishermen use them all the time

[01:25:49] but I don't know what this guy was doing

[01:25:51] in cold weather like that.

[01:25:52] Yeah, yeah, who knows?

[01:25:54] Wow.

[01:25:56] All right, next one.

[01:25:58] I'm going to skip this.

[01:25:59] Yeah, skip that.

[01:26:00] But I'm going to go to Cathedral Ledge.

[01:26:05] So this is in New Hampshire, so we got some local ones.

[01:26:07] Ice climber rescued on Cathedral Ledge

[01:26:09] after falling nearly 30 feet.

[01:26:13] So this happened in Bartlett.

[01:26:16] Cathedral Ledge is in Bartlett?

[01:26:18] No, it was in Conway.

[01:26:19] Oh, it's right on the edge, yep.

[01:26:21] Yeah, yeah.

[01:26:21] So a fishing game responded to an ice climbing accident

[01:26:25] at the base of the Repentance Route around 1220

[01:26:30] involving an adult male.

[01:26:31] So 21-year-old from Alabama was climbing

[01:26:36] when he fell approximately 20, 30 feet.

[01:26:38] So this guy was from Alabama, Stomp.

[01:26:41] There you go.

[01:26:42] Well, there are probably some good climbers down in Bama.

[01:26:45] Forrest Gump territory, Stomp.

[01:26:48] You're going to get us canceled.

[01:26:50] Yep, yep.

[01:26:51] Yes.

[01:26:53] So he fell 30 feet.

[01:26:55] His partner was able to help lower him down to the ground

[01:26:58] and he was later treated by first responders.

[01:27:01] Authorities said Cooper, the climber,

[01:27:04] was transported to Memorial Hospital for a leg injury.

[01:27:07] So sounds like he had a little oopsie, no big deal.

[01:27:12] Yeah, came out in one piece, thankfully.

[01:27:15] Yep, yep.

[01:27:16] And then luckily it's been quiet on the hiking rescue,

[01:27:19] but we did have a man rescued after falling through the ice

[01:27:23] on the Connecticut River in Monroe.

[01:27:27] It's no joke, met some of the big river.

[01:27:30] Yep, first responders received a report of a man

[01:27:32] who fell through the ice on the Connecticut River

[01:27:34] directly below the McIdoe Dam, McGindo?

[01:27:39] Dam in Monroe.

[01:27:42] So this was, it looks like the fire department rescued him.

[01:27:44] So the man was not identified.

[01:27:45] He was ice fishing on the river

[01:27:47] when suddenly the ice below him collapsed.

[01:27:50] The man did not panic and thrash around in the water

[01:27:52] and said he rotated onto his back and called for help.

[01:27:56] So they had more than 10 rescuers respond to the call.

[01:27:59] Crews were able to tie a rope to a kayak

[01:28:02] and the first two responders climbed in

[01:28:03] and slid out about 100 feet onto the ice towards the man.

[01:28:07] And then the kayak crew grabbed him by the shoulders

[01:28:09] and held on while eight or 10 other crew members

[01:28:11] on land pulled the rope

[01:28:13] and hoisted the kayak onto the shore.

[01:28:15] So that's pretty nifty.

[01:28:16] Yeah, it's the first time I read that.

[01:28:18] That's a neat technique.

[01:28:19] It makes sense.

[01:28:21] Yeah, should the ice fail?

[01:28:22] And it says here the man was wearing a heavy duty jacket

[01:28:24] which authority said helped him stay warm enough

[01:28:27] in the water.

[01:28:28] Yeah, huh, like a down?

[01:28:30] It's like a double edged sword though

[01:28:32] because it's like a heavy jacket.

[01:28:34] It's gonna pull you down,

[01:28:35] but it'll keep you warm if you don't get pulled down.

[01:28:38] Yeah, this is one activity

[01:28:39] you will not see me doing, ice fishing.

[01:28:43] Yeah, yeah, I mean.

[01:28:44] I don't trust ice.

[01:28:45] I hate to say it.

[01:28:46] I'm like 12 feet thick.

[01:28:47] I'm not going on it.

[01:28:48] No, I'm good.

[01:28:50] My dog fell in.

[01:28:51] I had to rescue my dog when I was a kid

[01:28:55] and I always have been afraid of ice too.

[01:28:57] Yeah, rightly so.

[01:29:01] Yep, but speaking of dogs,

[01:29:03] Dog Track sent for over two miles

[01:29:05] to find a missing child in the freezing cold weather.

[01:29:08] So this is something you were all excited about this one.

[01:29:11] Man's best friend coming through again.

[01:29:13] Isn't this amazing?

[01:29:15] Two miles.

[01:29:18] Yeah, yeah, it looks like a German Shepherd type of dog,

[01:29:21] a hound or something.

[01:29:23] So police dog and,

[01:29:25] so police dog, so it's probably a German Shepherd.

[01:29:27] Oh yeah.

[01:29:27] This police dog is being praised for tracking down a child

[01:29:31] who was reported missing last week

[01:29:32] amid freezing temperatures.

[01:29:34] So this is an Auburn Mass.

[01:29:36] So they received a report that a child

[01:29:38] had left the home without permission

[01:29:40] as temperatures were in the mid to upper 20s.

[01:29:43] So officers began to search the area

[01:29:46] and were joined by troopers from Mass State Police.

[01:29:49] And then Officer Jungren and his canine partner, Beeza,

[01:29:55] were searching when Beeza picked up the kid's scent.

[01:29:58] And after following Beeza for over two miles,

[01:30:01] officers found evidence that the missing child

[01:30:03] had recently been in the area.

[01:30:05] They were able to focus on that particular area

[01:30:07] and locate the child a short time later.

[01:30:10] The kid was reunited with his family in his safe.

[01:30:12] Officers did not say why the child left home

[01:30:15] or what they were doing over two miles away.

[01:30:19] And it doesn't say how old the kid was, but that's scary.

[01:30:24] Yeah, I was super lucky.

[01:30:26] Most of the search and rescue teams that utilize canines,

[01:30:30] a lot of them are German Shepherds for sure.

[01:30:33] Yes.

[01:30:34] Yeah, especially the police dogs.

[01:30:36] Brilliant.

[01:30:37] Yep, but that's all we got, Stomp.

[01:30:39] So we are caught up to date.

[01:30:40] And then next week, what do we have?

[01:30:41] We have a guest next week?

[01:30:42] We have Sir Maps-a-Lot, Eric Hamilton coming on

[01:30:46] to talk about his books and his mapping activities

[01:30:48] and his bushwhacking activities.

[01:30:50] Should be a really nice conversation.

[01:30:52] Stomp, you're gonna be so excited.

[01:30:54] And let's see, I think that's it.

[01:30:58] I hope you feel better.

[01:31:00] Hopefully your plans won't be canned by your sinus.

[01:31:04] No, I'm fine, I'm fine.

[01:31:07] I had a question before we,

[01:31:09] don't we have a Sasquatch guy coming on or something?

[01:31:12] Yeah, he's lined up

[01:31:14] and he's trying to work out his schedule.

[01:31:16] This is a, hopefully it works out.

[01:31:18] I mean, he's communicated with me several times

[01:31:21] and he's a national figure that talks about Yetis

[01:31:23] and he's an anthropologist and he's a professor

[01:31:27] and he's just a very busy person.

[01:31:30] So I will keep you posted on that one.

[01:31:33] I'm very excited about this one.

[01:31:34] So I'm gonna go toe to toe

[01:31:36] with the most famous Bigfoot expert.

[01:31:40] Yeah, for sure.

[01:31:41] And by the way, one last question.

[01:31:43] Did you register for Mount Washington?

[01:31:45] No, I'm gonna do that.

[01:31:46] I gotta do that tonight.

[01:31:47] I'm in a little chat group with my Emily Hikes crew

[01:31:50] and Judy was on there

[01:31:52] and she was talking about how she registered.

[01:31:54] I have to do that.

[01:31:55] Yeah, there you go.

[01:31:56] All right.

[01:31:58] All right, brother, well feel better

[01:31:59] and we will see you for Sir Maps a Lot.

[01:32:02] Good luck, be safe out there.

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[01:32:42] Until then, on behalf of Mike and Stump,

[01:32:45] get out there and crush some mega peaks.

[01:32:51] Now covered in scratches, blisters and bug bites,

[01:32:54] Chris Staff wanted to complete

[01:32:55] his most challenging day hike ever.

[01:32:58] Fish and game officers say the hiker from Florida

[01:33:01] activated an emergency beacon yesterday morning.

[01:33:05] He was hiking along the Appalachian Trail

[01:33:07] when the weather started to get worse.

[01:33:09] Officials say the snow was piled up

[01:33:11] to three feet in some spots

[01:33:12] and there was a wind chill of minus one degree.

[01:33:16] Well, there's three words to describe this race.

[01:33:18] Do we all know what they are?

[01:33:20] The holy white hill!

[01:33:23] Lieutenant James Nealon, New Hampshire Fish and Game.

[01:33:25] Lieutenant, thanks for being with us today.

[01:33:27] Thanks for having me.

[01:33:29] What are some of the most common mistakes

[01:33:31] you see people make when they're heading out on the trails

[01:33:32] to hike here in New Hampshire?

[01:33:33] It seems to me the most common is being unprepared

[01:33:35] and I think if they just simply visited hikesafe.com

[01:33:39] and got a list of the 10 essential items

[01:33:41] and had those in their packs,

[01:33:42] they probably would have no need to ever call us at all.