Episode 146 - Welcome Jack Kingsley from The Caretaker, Eclipse Chasers, an Old Timer shares some stories

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[00:02:40] Broadcasting from the Woodpecker studio in the great state of New Hampshire. Welcome to the sounds like a search and rescue podcast,

[00:03:09] where we discuss all things related to hiking and search and rescue in the white mountains of New Hampshire. Here are your hosts, Mike and Stump.

[00:03:19] Alright, I am recording and then I'm going to open up my beer.

[00:03:49] It's like a crack. It's like a crack. It did. It was like, you know sometimes the beer like it's like the tabs are very flush against the metal and you know I'm sensitive. I don't want to break my knee.

[00:04:03] Alright, so are you back to normal now? Yeah, we had the old usual nonsense here at Gateway but back to back to.

[00:04:15] Back to. You get a generator. Yeah, I suppose listeners are not happy. It's delayed by 12 hours. Still listening to it.

[00:04:23] Listeners, if actually I have an idea here, Stump listeners, if you don't want us to be delayed, Stump needs a nice generator so don't eat some coffee. There we go.

[00:04:35] Alright, so we were chit-chatting right before the show was we were just getting our recording done and we're trying to come up with like a nifty name for all the people that are going to be coming up.

[00:04:43] So Stump was saying that there's like bus loads of people on their way up to do the where they going, like where are they staying?

[00:04:50] I would assume that they're heading more north of the notch but I was coming back from work in Meredith on 93 North and bus loads of people were just driving by big those big tour buses.

[00:05:02] And it's got to be for that.

[00:05:05] So this would be a good time to put on the big foot outfit and scare some some tourists. That would be funny.

[00:05:14] Yeah, so we got to get so if any listeners like Stump came up with a dumb name I think I don't really like it but if any listeners have an idea of like a name to call the people that are visiting.

[00:05:26] Would you call them dark seekers? Yeah, yeah. That's not original though that comes from I am legend the movie about the zombies and come out at night but dark seekers.

[00:05:36] I thought eclipse hunters would be good but I don't know if the listeners have any other good ideas. Yeah. How about tourists?

[00:05:46] Yeah, tourists. So no I'm sensitive about that because I technically could be considered a tourist so I don't want to be loved in with those people.

[00:05:56] Soon how about soon to be rescued on win tree trails?

[00:06:02] Well, you know what the good thing is is that well it's a good thing and it's a bad thing is that the path of totality is like well out of the way of most of the volunteer search and rescue groups.

[00:06:14] True. True. Yeah, so I don't know what's going to be like the local fire and the fishing games they have to station themselves out there.

[00:06:24] Yeah, we'll see. I'll definitely Monday I'm working the first part of the day and at the afternoon time I'm going to probably head north from where I am I'll be closer to a little to but I think I might just head north and check it out as he was going on.

[00:06:39] I'm assuming the the notches will be bottlenecked. Yeah, well good luck. I'll be on the other side of the pond so good luck. Yeah.

[00:06:49] Yeah, but now welcome to episode 146 of the sounds like a search and rescue podcast this week we are joined in a segment by Jack Kingsley.

[00:06:59] Jack Kingsley so Jack is the subject of the short film the caretaker which was released recently via the production company warden. So we're joined we were joined by Josh Bogartis on episode 143 a few weeks ago.

[00:07:12] Josh had discussed the behind the scenes process of making the film now we are joined by the man who was the main subject to the film so Jack's going to share his experiences as the caretaker or the harbored cabin.

[00:07:23] He'll dive into some of his hiking and climbing background and we'll learn a little bit more about his recent pursuits including his work as a firefighter where he's currently stationed in Australia.

[00:07:33] All this plus we will do a review of a recent hike on Mount Chakora we're going to talk a little bit more on eclipse planning so we'll have like a dedicated segment on that and we'll give you our advice on where we think you know where we would go and then we'll break down some safety tips and suggested hikes around the world.

[00:07:52] So here's a hint for me stay a little bit soft and we're also going to tell the story I ran into an older gentleman stop old guy at the parking lot at Chakora so this guy's got some history he's a he's got a fancy license plate around hiking and you know he I got the talk in him and then he I did some digging in his background and I went down a little bit of a rabbit hole about a tragic fatal last hike in Maine from the 1990s.

[00:08:21] That I want to share with with the listeners and I think you'll be interested so I'm Mike and I'm stop let's get started.

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[00:09:21] You embody what it means to be a hiking buddy and now for all my newer hikers out there here's this episodes hiking buddies quick tip.

[00:09:35] Do a spot check ask questions of any hikers that are new to your team at the trailhead go over the ten essentials expectations for time and distance and what the bailout plans on.

[00:09:52] Let's get started all right so I want to start off with one heads up to the listeners is everybody knows the famous Eric Todd sweets yeah.

[00:10:12] So Eric had put out a message that he is helping out for an adapted hiking activity so this is on April 13th which I believe is a Saturday he's looking for volunteers so he's helping out Sasha who's one of the athletes that that he's working with.

[00:10:35] And I guess they need help with a trail rider up to talk him in ravine.

[00:10:40] To hermit lake shelter so he's thinking these need looking for like eight to ten more people so if you're interested you can reach out to Nate Hansen and his email addresses Nate at adaptive sports partners dot org so again neat at adaptive sports partners dot org.

[00:11:00] And I'll include his info in the show notes if you want to help out cool that's great yeah that's a really and you can hike with the legendary Eric Todd sweet and he may even take a shirt off take a photo with you do some handstands yes excellent now that's great and he didn't ask me to do that I just saw it on like social media and I figured I'd give a shout out so yeah it's always great to give back to the community especially in that arena adaptive sports especially.

[00:11:29] Yeah yeah I think that that'll be a I mean that's going to be a muddy mess going up talk him into the term it shelter with with that but I think it'll be fun too you know it'll be a fun muddy mess oh yeah for sure what's the date again.

[00:11:45] April 13th it says okay which is a Saturday I guess yeah okay all right yeah hopefully the weather will cooperate.

[00:11:55] Yep yep so all right so we got a couple of articles and topics that stop his pulled here so the first one is continually with our theme remember last week we talked about toilet paper use and then we also talked about our friend in Maine who has been

[00:12:13] busted multiple times for climbing into those toilets yeah so this is stomp had quoted that there is a shitty situation on the Appalachian Trail so this goes into through hikers yep and through hikers one of the things that before COVID came around the big thing that through hikers were constantly afraid of was neuro viruses so there's been a neuro virus outbreak reported on the Appalachian Trail.

[00:12:41] Hmm wonderful so can you explain to us the cause of neuro virus outbreak stop what's a highly infectious stomach bug and it's transmitted through direct contact with an infected person.

[00:12:56] So that's sort of interesting I'm not sure the exact genesis of this actually let's see here.

[00:13:03] I can tell you go ahead what's your theory I can tell you when you're when you're disgusting through hiker yeah and you go pee and then you you you do other bodily movements and then you get nastiness on your hands.

[00:13:19] Yeah.

[00:13:20] And then you go to the shelter or the table or whatever and you touch food or you touch the table and then somebody else touches it and then you get you get a stomach virus or in the

[00:13:29] the shelters spread it around there yes that's nasty.

[00:13:34] Yeah some of the symptoms of course include headache fever body aches in a conlasfer 12 to 48 hours vomiting diarrhea oh my god.

[00:13:45] I was like oh you should you should get can you get vomiting and diarrhea drops into this section or like a vomit at least a vomit I've got the vomit ready to go.

[00:13:56] Suggestions stay isolated if you're sick wash your hands disposed of waste all that good stuff but as if that hike isn't challenging enough let's throw some neuro virus on it.

[00:14:07] Yeah and they talk about here in the article to that like when you get into the smokies the hikers are required to stay in shelters at night so you can't set up 10 so a lot of times you've got like 12 13 people sleeping on top of each other so it's really no surprise that you

[00:14:25] you would get these outbreaks but I'm it kind of nor a virus kind of went out of vogue when covid came in but now it's it's a roaring back so wash your hands you disgusting pigs.

[00:14:36] Good stuff that's pretty easy that is when you're through hiking but I think you have to like what if you stop what if you you know how they have fires in the fire pit maybe

[00:14:50] listeners can chime in on this but I feel like if you have a fire in the fire pit and then you wake up in the morning and then you rub your hands in like the ashes like maybe that is that like soap.

[00:15:03] Got me I mean I've heard that before.

[00:15:07] You might not have any hands left.

[00:15:10] Then you can make sure that the degree burns make sure it's not hot so what kind of advice is this.

[00:15:17] I don't know I'm just thinking like that it sounds like something like that a bushcraft person would do.

[00:15:24] Yeah I suppose bushcraft.

[00:15:27] I don't know somebody tell us like if there's an alternative to soap then let us know oh boy.

[00:15:34] This is why I only do like weekend warrior stuff and I do day hiking so I can go home and take a shower.

[00:15:41] Oh man okay all right stop so this next one here hikers are protesting the new what is this there hikers are protesting a new beetle juice like sculpture in pinnacle mountain state park so this is like holy Moses so this is this picture how do I describe this it looks like beautiful.

[00:16:03] It's a blue blob that has like little nubbins on it and it's probably like maybe three feet tall mm-hmm and then in addition to that somebody it looks like somebody painted rocks silver and then stuck them on so that it's like polka dotted silver rocks over a solid blue.

[00:16:24] Honk of yeah whatever rock it but it's like a shape rocks anyway it's disgusting it's a sculpture in local hikers are disgusted with it and they've started to change dot org petition.

[00:16:38] So I'm going to invent the installation of any more of these art pieces so yeah I mean yeah I mean if I'm a hiker I don't want to see modern art unless I'm seeking it out intentionally at a museum or some of these outdoor art places but apparently this was not.

[00:16:59] It was it was not taxpayer funded it was a private donation to the Arkansas Park and recreation foundation or through that.

[00:17:07] And hikers are up in arms about it so 1700 people complained about this I don't blame them especially that that thing.

[00:17:15] I don't know yeah it's it looks horrendous I feel like there's a hierarchy so like like state and federal forests.

[00:17:24] In state parks like I feel like you keep that stuff out of it maybe like town parks.

[00:17:29] You can do like temporary displays like I know when you report in modestly they do like a temporary display of like Halloween art that people can like walk through.

[00:17:40] And then they take it down so I feel like yeah maybe temporary installments that are.

[00:17:46] themed at like a local town park or appropriate but not at a.

[00:17:51] Not in the state park like this yeah I agree.

[00:17:55] But I mean this literally looks like a like a.

[00:17:58] A two year old made it so it's horrendous there reminds me that scene from walka like violet you're turning violet violet minus the head on the top like a gigantic blue area yeah with the wealth.

[00:18:09] Want to know but a little bit.

[00:18:13] Boy good stuff all right and then the next one here we've got a good this is a good one here evidence of.

[00:18:21] Giants yeah have been discovered in Nevada so stunned archaeologists probe claims of giant skeletons in Nevada caves where they found a 15 inch sandal that had been worn down as well as massive handprints across the wall.

[00:18:36] Wild yeah yeah so archaeologist have long been baffled about claims at a long lost group of giant humans that stood 10 feet tall once lived in the Southwestern US so super size human skulls 15 inch sandals and massive handprints have been uncovered in these excavations.

[00:18:56] In love lock Nevada over the last century and it continues to spark curiosity so these are called the giants of love lock I've never heard of this one here.

[00:19:06] Wild yeah red hair used to have red hair and they were 10 feet plus tall 15 inch long sandals 15 inches.

[00:19:17] That's sort of interesting.

[00:19:19] Yeah so I guess there's like 60 human skeletons I guess this originally like there was like a biography of a guy who was an engineer from like the 1930s that had originally discovered some of this stuff so originally this stuff had been excavated like.

[00:19:34] Even go back to like 1912 and 1924 there been thousands of artifacts but yeah you know the giants are so 15 inch long shoe would roughly translate to a 29 size ship in the US yeah that's a big foot get big foot.

[00:19:56] Yeah it's a very interesting story reminds me of the remember the Dead Sea Scrolls that they found.

[00:20:04] And they found those biblical books that talked about giants in I think was in I think that the.

[00:20:11] They talk about these yeah what in a philum or something like that Russell Crowe no movie.

[00:20:17] Yeah yeah and the thing is about that so we're going off topic here a little bit but like my understanding is is that there's like I've gone down these rabbit holes before where people will say like it's not really aliens that you have to worry about it's like creatures from other dimensions and there's these things called like fall

[00:20:34] angels yeah right and they're supposed to be like giants but you can't see them because they're in another dimension so maybe I don't

[00:20:40] maybe there's a crack in the dimension here stop but if any of that stuff shows up like I'm hoping I'm gone before any other

[00:20:50] Yeah maybe that's what I'll try to find um maybe that's a portal they came through it.

[00:20:55] Yeah I don't know but I'll try to find what is it called nephilums or something I'll try to find it's yeah I'll try to find an article about that stuff

[00:21:04] because it's it's kind of fascinating and yeah actually a friend that has a podcast that like does a lot of stuff on that so maybe we'll get them on

[00:21:12] and we can do like a topic about like freaky stuff like that sure I mean it all comes back to archaeology and anthropology so it's really fascinating stuff

[00:21:21] and this had to come from somewhere they date these remains back to what 2000 or 3000 BC with carbon dating

[00:21:29] so yeah it's super interesting

[00:21:32] yeah something something something something like because I'm certainly not 10 feet tall

[00:21:38] well I can tell you this much I definitely was not like part of this giant thing like I was whatever the little people are

[00:21:45] um alright so anyway that's enough nonsense so we've got a special event coming up to benefit the Mount Washington

[00:21:53] observatory so listener Ellen Estabroke had sent us over to Westom so what is this all about?

[00:21:59] Yes so next Friday for 12 there's a fundraiser and let's see it's the 90th anniversary big wind day celebration

[00:22:12] and the celebration is in reference to the 231 mile an hour wind gust that was still well was recorded up on Mount Washington

[00:22:22] and it's still the world record for a staffed weather station so what they're doing at Tuckamins

[00:22:29] it's free and open to the public from 3 to 6 pm and with one dollar of every 6,288 stout sold

[00:22:39] benefiting the Mount Washington Observatory so that sounds like a really cool thing

[00:22:44] and they will be live music food trucks educational and family friendly activities so thank you for the tip Ellen

[00:22:51] that sounds like a great time

[00:22:58] slasher's hiking topic of the week

[00:23:05] stump this is the part of the show where we're going to do a deep dive

[00:23:10] into the eclipse here so we've got like this is like three buckets one is just general information

[00:23:17] about the weather and what to expect then stomps going to do a safety hiking tip

[00:23:22] and then we're going to close out with suggested hikes for the eclipse so three

[00:23:26] three parts general info safety info and then recommended hikes so what do we go for general info

[00:23:32] and how is the weather looking stump well let's talk about the weather thankfully we just

[00:23:37] dodged a bullet this storm came early which is great but for Lancaster I believe we're looking at

[00:23:43] some warm partly cloudy skies with a high in the 55 range so that looks pretty good for that

[00:23:51] time frame and specifically for the time frame of three o'clock or is it 330 when the eclipse happens

[00:24:00] I think it's 330 is the peak let's see what they're saying here one moment Monday at 3 pm is

[00:24:11] yeah clear blue skies this is looking really good no wind so that's good

[00:24:19] yeah yeah the weather is things are falling into place yeah that's right so in Leigh and Caster

[00:24:25] which is the the big destination here in New Hampshire for this event the eclipse will begin at 2.16

[00:24:33] pm and then max totality is at 3.30 pm and that's the fullest covering of the sun by the moon so

[00:24:44] you have a good span of time there see that's the thing if you go to Lancaster I guess the event

[00:24:49] is longer than say if you're south where I am or elsewhere so most paying for your your

[00:24:56] buck is up in Lancaster yeah I'm sure they're going to appreciate us directing everybody up there

[00:25:03] I think words out sorry about that yeah I don't complain much and then you put a link in here

[00:25:10] we'll link this in the show notes a list of solar glasses recommended by the American

[00:25:15] astronomical society I can tell you right I've been through like multiple eclipse

[00:25:19] and like I've done the thing with the little pinhole in the cardboard box and all that not last time I

[00:25:25] just I just we call it I just like squinted went um I squinted yeah and I didn't go blind

[00:25:33] so I'm fine I mean the other thing is you can go without glasses and just like not look directly

[00:25:39] at it and just enjoy like the darkness yeah that's what intrigues me the most I love the the shading

[00:25:45] and the darkness that comes but apparently when it's at its fullest you can you can look up at it

[00:25:51] I mean I've read pretty much that if you're wearing those glasses at its fullest you won't see anything

[00:25:56] so don't quote me but that's what people saying take them off at the fullest to actually see it

[00:26:06] can you use a telescope to or do you still need glasses if you use a telescope?

[00:26:11] I remember as a kid having telescopes and you would have to put a filter on your lenses

[00:26:16] yeah you would have a special eclipse lens that you would plug into your telescope to do that

[00:26:22] so you got to be really careful with that will include the um list of solar glasses recommended by

[00:26:30] the American astronomical society and then also you can go to bank of New Hampshire they're giving

[00:26:34] away free eclipse glasses starting on Friday the fifth so we're recording this show on Friday

[00:26:42] so this will come out on Friday night Saturday morning so you know if you can go to bank in New Hampshire

[00:26:49] and deposit a cheque and get glasses yeah first come first serve and uh yeah that's that's pretty cool

[00:26:55] thank you yeah thank you and the other thing is that there's there's a bunch of weaklings

[00:27:02] and wimpy states and countries that are declaring a state of emergency over this eclipse thing

[00:27:07] i don't quite get it not in the hamster no they don't care but like kentucky west virginia

[00:27:14] ontario canada texas ohio mizuri county charleston jackson county okay they're all declaring a state

[00:27:22] of emergency it's probably just to get more money for like cops to like direct traffic or something

[00:27:28] indiana as well um i you know i don't know we've attached an article here which tells

[00:27:35] sort of some of the inside baseball as to why these agencies do this we'll let you scope it out but

[00:27:42] yeah i guarantee it has to do with just getting extra funding for staff and resources sure but

[00:27:47] but that's what i'm getting at somebody told me that if that is declared then that opens a

[00:27:51] doorway to federal funds should they need it but again it's just uh and eclipse uh

[00:28:00] yeah we're living free and dying up here so don't worry about it in here man um here's another thing

[00:28:05] is new york city inmates um they're suing to be able to watch the solar eclipse after the state

[00:28:12] orders the prisons lock down interesting some of them are claiming that it's a religious event for

[00:28:18] them so they're putting constitutional liberties uh in the spotlight with this is not wild

[00:28:25] yep yeah hey hey look if you're in prison i'm coming up with every excuse i can

[00:28:32] you know i got nothing of time on my hands stop i'm coming up with believe me yeah i'll come

[00:28:36] up with a million excuses i'm like the perfect time for jailbreak yeah exactly all the all the

[00:28:43] prison guards are looking up so uh they should go underground underground to exit uh and then lastly

[00:28:50] ohio and ohio county is urging residents to stay home like listen this isn't COVID anymore here

[00:28:56] go outside and enjoy yourself like these these states they're a bunch of whims

[00:29:01] yeah some of them are like you're losing down highways so good to say because if you're

[00:29:04] abandon trucks and highways i don't get it yeah meanwhile like in the hamsters got like one lane

[00:29:10] roads everywhere and it's just like free for all it's gonna be chaos oh boy yep uh well good luck

[00:29:19] so speaking of that stop what are some safety tips that you want to um

[00:29:24] entail onto the listeners here oh i think our listener base is probably well aware of these but

[00:29:30] i think that uh a lot of people that aren't very experienced will be dominating the trailheads um

[00:29:37] but we do want to remind you that in cases like this those masher's maybe out there smash

[00:29:43] windows and stealing goods out of your car so be really cautious with that

[00:29:48] and that reminds me we do have uh those clings still available if anybody's interested um the

[00:29:53] smasher clings that stick on your windshield but that that's the first thing just be careful with

[00:29:57] your valuables i guarantee those trailheads gonna be slammed you know the prime everyone's anyway

[00:30:04] let's see do the to the volume of people in the region

[00:30:09] i would anticipate that if there was a rescue call not only would it be difficult for rescuers to

[00:30:15] get through certain places like the notch which will bottle neck up uh without without a question um

[00:30:22] but your rescue time is probably going to be delayed so i would suggest if you're going hiking

[00:30:29] make sure that you're prepared to sit out there for 12 hours or so to go and waiting for a response

[00:30:35] just because of the different factors state agencies will probably be strained

[00:30:40] dealing with all kinds of different things um so just be ready to sit around and wait

[00:30:45] and um in terms of the trail conditions the trails are still you know mid to late winterish early spring

[00:30:52] type of condition so make sure you have the right traction and gear that you need to to hike properly

[00:30:58] so just a couple little points there yeah i think you've covered pretty much everything i would

[00:31:03] say that like if you're an experienced hiker like it maybe it may be helpful for you to um

[00:31:10] you know bring bring your stuff in anticipation that they may be people you run into that don't have

[00:31:16] you know warm clothes don't have a sit pad don't have anything to address like a lower leg injury

[00:31:23] like a splinter things like that so this is your chance you could be a hero that's right yeah

[00:31:29] absolutely good call extra clothing headlamps out the whole thing yeah and then trailhead stuff too

[00:31:35] I would say you know make sure you have your like portable car battery chargers um

[00:31:42] you know extra jack things like that like flat tires dead batteries those things happen at the trail

[00:31:48] it's that's right all right stop and then last but not least suggested hikes for the eclipse so um

[00:31:56] um i guess i can go first on this one because you have more details but i mean in fact i was talking

[00:32:01] to my friend Felipe who i work with uh because he's gonna be going up there and like i was

[00:32:06] his my opinion is i've evolved a little bit originally i was like yeah you want to go up to like

[00:32:10] Pittsburgh and maybe you do like table rock or something like that but i think it's gonna be chaos

[00:32:15] that far up in the dicksville notch so for me uh if i'm like from Massachusetts or southern

[00:32:20] New Hampshire or something like that i'm going up i'm gonna stay south and i'm gonna go with

[00:32:25] i'm gonna just accept that i'm not gonna see it for as long but i am gonna go south so my first

[00:32:29] pick is the bulge so head over to unknown pond and then uh that cabinet um

[00:32:36] worn bulge loop there yeah i probably just gonna head up and do that short hike up to the bulge

[00:32:41] and i think that's gonna be a good spot to uh to check it out so you get a clear northerly view

[00:32:46] there so oh if you're unknown pond so you're gonna park and then walk the road all the way in or

[00:32:51] what do you think it will i mean you you could i mean you i'm assuming you can get in past the fish hatchery

[00:32:55] but me i mean i'm sure there's gonna be a lot of cars there but um maybe it won't be as crowded

[00:33:00] as people that are heading directly north because you're you're basically right on the southern end

[00:33:04] of the path of totality right there right so i'm just thinking like that maybe a good option for

[00:33:10] you and you get a pretty clear view of the north and then the other one is if you want to try to get

[00:33:15] a little bit farther north um go into south pond and do uh Roger's ledge yeah that's a good call

[00:33:22] for sure yep yeah you can do that one and then the the other option that i have i get two more

[00:33:30] the if you want to try to get a little north or into a little north into the path of totality

[00:33:36] then i think going into goram taken a right on route two and then going up uh hitting up route five

[00:33:47] and then going up to graft and notch and then potentially getting over to old speck or

[00:33:55] bald paint in one of those like if you can get in a graft and notch early and see how the traffic

[00:34:01] is and then maybe you can get out to old speckery you can get the bald paid or something like that

[00:34:06] i don't think it's gonna be as easy to get into like that um success pond road uh in that area

[00:34:12] there but um i think that coming in from 26 might be an option and then last but not least for me

[00:34:18] stomp is just like get up apolachia and just check out mattison and atoms got you and just go

[00:34:24] from there yeah those are good what do you think about uh volume of hikers on these locations

[00:34:30] do you think there'd be a lot of people yeah i don't know i think i was thinking like unknown pond

[00:34:34] and like habit may not be as crowded because it's a little farther south and it's a little bit

[00:34:39] off the beaten path yeah so that was why that would be my first pick and yeah that was a good

[00:34:45] good call i mean it's gonna be more crowded than it normally is for sure yeah yeah all right

[00:34:50] those are good i like them yeah what do you um i have several so the first one is a riot so canon

[00:34:56] is opening up their tram and there this is this is the the quote unquote easiest option you would

[00:35:01] have except for battling crowds but they're having uh eclipse fest for this and there's live music with

[00:35:07] double apocalypse a boss and band um so they're taking people right up to the top um this is

[00:35:13] gonna be a slope side stage you know all the food so you can check that out that sounds absolutely

[00:35:20] amazing but again probably packed if not sold out already um this this is another one that

[00:35:29] the landcaster whitefield people gonna kill us for this one but the probably easiest higher peak

[00:35:35] in the totality range would be for me mount aggacy um it's a little bit south but once you get up

[00:35:43] to the top there that's right up in Bethlehem um you're gonna get a decent view and um next on my

[00:35:51] list is cherry pond this is a it's a really nice destination for snowmobiles in the winter and

[00:35:58] it's a little harder to get to hiking but there are two or three different routes to get to

[00:36:04] cherry pond and when you get to cherry pond um there is a spot called tutor Richards viewing platform

[00:36:13] and it gives you this expansive view it's like the it's like pellinor fields if you know the reference

[00:36:19] from Lord of the Rings it's just expansive you get a view of kilkenny you get a view of the entire

[00:36:25] presidential absolutely fantastic spot i think if i were to pick a place that would be my first

[00:36:31] pick because you won't see anybody there and i think at most you're you're dealing with maybe a

[00:36:35] mile and a half two miles to get to the spot from certain directions um upping the ante a bit to

[00:36:41] something a little more difficult would be mount martha and owls head in particular i think

[00:36:46] that would be pretty good although it is a little bit more of an easterly view yeah that's the

[00:36:51] one issue that i think you're gonna run into is that it doesn't like perfectly face the north

[00:36:56] correct correct but thinking about the position of the sun i think it would probably work but maybe not

[00:37:04] i mean at three thirty p.m yeah who knows yeah who knows that's a that is definitely a question

[00:37:13] mount prospect is another location that is up in landcaster on route three and it's part of the

[00:37:18] weeks state park it's a road walk up to an open field with a stone i believe it's a stone fire tower

[00:37:26] that's a really neat spot that's actually on the the highest five hundred so if you're looking for

[00:37:31] a peak for the five hundred you can bang that out and then i went further north into stark i figured

[00:37:36] you know what talk about a cool spot how about north percy you'd have to do the road walk at this

[00:37:41] point it's probably closed but north percy peak would be epic and that's that's an advanced hike at

[00:37:48] this stage of the game for this time of the year because you're dealing with wet slabs and probably

[00:37:53] unbroken trails maybe not and let's see bald mountain back to the easy artist bluffing bald mountain

[00:38:01] ball does face west and north so you get a clear view north i think that would be great and then

[00:38:07] there's actually bald peak on the western side of the kinsman which is maybe two miles up

[00:38:14] which gives you a fantastic more westerly view but certainly a bit of the north as well so those are

[00:38:22] my suggestions you know trying to keep them in that totality neighborhood but it's tricky because

[00:38:29] it's you know certain places are all good and i think one thing i'll call out to the listeners is

[00:38:35] so like percy peaks a good example is like nash dream road will probably be gated and i really

[00:38:40] don't know what the what the options are for parking at the gate i have a feeling there's probably

[00:38:46] a few spots but one thing that we definitely want people to avoid is you know parking in places

[00:38:53] they're not supposed to park or if police are stationed in a certain area and they tell you

[00:38:58] to move along like don't give them a hard time don't give the locals a hard time like there's plenty of

[00:39:03] like i think trails and things like that that are up in the northern area that rely on like private

[00:39:10] owners to allow access so like don't screw up access to the hiking trails for this eclipse by

[00:39:18] like being difficult for the local owners or the police department because like this stuff can

[00:39:23] be taken away and yeah i don't know specifics but like just be be understanding and understand

[00:39:28] that like these people you know it's a monday people coming and going from work and stuff like that

[00:39:32] so just try to be respectful i know our listeners are always respectful but it's the people that don't

[00:39:37] listen to the slash or podcast that we just need to dis remind them so the listeners if you're

[00:39:42] around and you see someone behaving incorrectly just correct them yes good words of advice

[00:39:49] so be safe out there it'll be over and don't be a pain in the neck like storm yeah so but

[00:39:55] to finish up with this section here when is the next one isn't it like 2044 2045

[00:40:01] yeah 2045 is the coast to coast in 2044 is the next time yeah all right so 20 so i'm

[00:40:07] gonna miss this one so then the next one my next bite at the apple let me just do math here so 2045

[00:40:15] so if i minus 20 that gets me to 2025 so 21 years so then that puts me at 70 plus one

[00:40:24] that's 72 plus 70 so i'll be 73 the next time i get a chance to do this oh my god yeah i don't

[00:40:31] think you're gonna be too concerned about it at that age yeah welcome to slash or podcast episode

[00:40:37] 1337 yeah it'll be all AI by then we'll be long gone the true truth yeah i don't know

[00:40:45] it's false yeah um all right so then we've got i see here in the show notes you've got a cool black

[00:40:52] hawk story that you want well yeah i mean it's just i'll just share it quick because it was it

[00:40:56] took me by surprise but i was coming up from benton on the kank coming from north havel back

[00:41:02] up towards loss river so you've got the pond they're on the right and then it banks steeply left

[00:41:11] and it goes back down to woodstock and and link and pass loss river so as i'm coming up to the pond

[00:41:17] a black hawk comes over my truck by about i don't know how to be like maybe 50 feet above the

[00:41:24] truck came zipping forward and i didn't hear because of blood sort of blast in music at the time

[00:41:31] but it was the most impressive freakish thing i've ever experienced it was so unexpected and just

[00:41:36] so cool to watch so the black hawk comes over hits the end of say where um you know the uh

[00:41:44] uh mouselock the the lower hills of mouselock and you have to bang a left so it literally banks hard

[00:41:51] left and then sweeps down into the valley and then as i pull around the corner past the trail head

[00:41:58] for beaver brook there it is just cruising straight down the kank into uh the mountains it was

[00:42:05] just so cool i don't know if anybody else saw that but did you put on credence clear water revival

[00:42:10] fortunate sun so that you were in the vibe right

[00:42:18] i wonder that matter fact that's what we should have asked when we had the black hawk uh

[00:42:22] crew on we should have asked them if they've listened to that song when they're with the flining yeah

[00:42:28] so it's just a cool little thing

[00:42:32] we all know that hiking a mountain can be hard at times so here's a corny dad joke to help you

[00:42:39] get over it but umbub

[00:42:44] this all right so um this is the part of the show where we do a dad joke stomp so

[00:42:49] why did the nurse need a red pen

[00:42:53] um i have no idea in case she needed to draw blood

[00:42:59] it's awesome yes really good right oh boy that's from my 365 days of dad jokes and um

[00:43:09] check those babies out thank you to lancin camella for that present that's awesome hey we have a

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[00:44:59] no no i did i got that from the girls but i uh i got uh gray like a gray sweatshirt i love the colors

[00:45:06] so yeah colors of the pants it's very it's very soft and comfortable so um i feel like the the

[00:45:12] sizes run a little small okay that's the only thing i'll tell tell the listeners but um

[00:45:18] yeah my daughters have been wearing them and stuff and everybody's getting the getting very

[00:45:22] excited about the uh the sweatshirts yeah it's good to us this don't actually got one of the dark

[00:45:28] black and like grayish tie dye ones with the dark logo on it it looks really cool

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[00:48:01] hey hold my bed it's time to find out what Mike and stomp are drinking on this week's beer talk

[00:48:15] all right stomp so this is the part of the show where we talk about what we're drinking so

[00:48:20] um it's Friday night what are you drinking well this is a funny story i was at work and i forgot my

[00:48:26] license so i didn't get anything and on the way home um i asked Mrs. stomp to grab me something so

[00:48:32] she got me something random here and it's a super scantilly di pa night shift brewing

[00:48:40] 9% i'm not gonna be able to edit out to this one oh wow yeah what is what is you not having

[00:48:46] your license have to do with not getting beer oh i have one of those small little compact

[00:48:50] ridge line wallets the the the metal elastic things that hold all your cards so i left it at home

[00:48:56] by accident i did them i oh so you left your wallet at home yeah call it a wallet yep

[00:49:01] yep license wallets that's what it's called it's not called the license it's called the wallet

[00:49:06] true true but i left my first i left my license and my wallet yes you have to be in my

[00:49:14] or concise stomp i was like as you're saying that i was like this makes no sense what's

[00:49:17] a little so i had to dig into that so oh yeah and so so you're drinking a 9% beer and i'm drinking

[00:49:25] a clouded judgment by reckless brewing i've ripped through my my reckless beer

[00:49:32] how much did you get i got two four packs and i think i have like three left wow yeah for me that's

[00:49:40] ripping through do you like i got to ask when you're playing harry potted you pop a beer and

[00:49:44] like sit back and chill i actually do matter fact you can kind of see like i have the tv right here

[00:49:52] oh yeah yeah and i sit right here but i turn around and then i keep my beer right next to me so

[00:49:57] and i would like to announce to people because i know people have been wondering um i have

[00:50:03] i have defeated the final boss in harry ponder so i have completed the game wow

[00:50:09] so who was it Voldemort no it's like some troll guy or some goblin guy and what stomp when we do

[00:50:16] the edit for this can you make sure that when i say i've defeated the game that you do some sort of

[00:50:21] a victory music drop on it yeah there was much rejoicing the bonti python yeah yes so yeah so

[00:50:30] first time i've been you know playing video games in many many years but i think great it was

[00:50:34] what's a one and done i'm over it my video game error is done oh come on you got to get into the

[00:50:40] load of the rings games man they're great oh yeah maybe see i think i'm going to go back into my

[00:50:46] reading books error okay so yeah good stuff

[00:50:54] i know we should have gone left back there stop don't worry i know it's this way

[00:50:59] i've got a feeling in my gut uh are you sure you're not about to have a bowel emergency

[00:51:06] totally we got this but i just blew out my hip fell down that gully with my 40 year old microspikes

[00:51:12] suck it up stomp it's 4 p.m. we're at 3500 feet we got nine miles back to the parking lot your leg

[00:51:19] may be broken we got no cell connection and we can't feel our fingers but we're finishing all of my

[00:51:24] list tonight by the way i need some water i'm empty i would if i could see what i'm doing but my

[00:51:30] headland batteries are dead you gotta be kidding me what a jump this is the last time i hike with you

[00:51:37] whatever mr do you know me i will podcast whatever

[00:51:44] let's find out what mike and stomp have been hiking

[00:51:47] um all right stomp so this is the part of the show where we talk about our recent hikes

[00:51:54] so i know that you don't actually hike anymore so i don't know do you have anything to share or should

[00:51:58] i just go no well i mean my knee is back to normal so i'm actually running again a bit and i hope

[00:52:03] to get out this sunday with mr stomp we're planning on doing um plimith mountain actually

[00:52:08] which is always a great great hike and uh but this is breaking news mr stomp has taken up

[00:52:14] running she's she has sneaker she's gone out and she's like running down to welch dicky and back

[00:52:21] and like look at her it's so cool yeah so it's it's a nice thing to share so

[00:52:27] and uh i've yet to break her into the hills yet though so we'll see how she handles that

[00:52:33] yeah you let her ease in what don't ruin it definitely let her let her vibe yeah she's loving it though

[00:52:39] yeah cool she can get all new atheleta gear yeah look all cool yeah good for her um but all right so no

[00:52:49] hiking for you but you do have something planned for content for next week so i appreciate that's

[00:52:53] right that's right i can't do everything around here correct um so i did go out and hike and uh

[00:53:00] i went out to mount chakura with nabi hikes and nox the super dog so nabi has a dog named nox so um

[00:53:07] great pup yeah great dog yeah he's really really easy on the trail which is great so um trails were

[00:53:14] an absolute nightmare of post holes so um sounds awesome i was actually shocked i've never seen

[00:53:21] the trail i actually never have been on a trail that was that bad really

[00:53:27] do you post holes insane i mean we guys like ridiculous post holes i meant i felt bad for the people

[00:53:33] i was like i just can't imagine how miserable their day is but uh we put snowshoes on like almost

[00:53:39] immediately maybe like a quarter mile in we just put them on and then um we did our best to try

[00:53:44] to clean the trail up so i think if you're if you're faced with this issue with post holes i think

[00:53:50] i would always take your snowshoes in the you know with you and i think like a lot of people think

[00:53:56] like oh i'm just gonna leave them in the car i'm gonna save the weight like you don't have to

[00:54:00] just like drop your snowshoes in the car like you have options like if you bring your snowshoes

[00:54:06] and you're a mile in and you feel like okay the trail is cleaned up like there's nothing stopping

[00:54:10] you from just dropping your snowshoes and then getting them on the way back you know so you don't

[00:54:15] need to just leave them in the car you can you can test out what the trail looks like and i feel like

[00:54:19] if a lot of people had done that it's not at all a nothing decision about snowshoes in the parking lot

[00:54:25] bring them with you and then if you find like okay yeah the trail's really cleared up

[00:54:30] you know maybe you can drop your snowshoes like a mile in and then get them on the way out or

[00:54:34] something but yeah interesting this was like crazy so we we did our best to try to clean the

[00:54:41] trail up so i was like kind of pounding through as best i could early on it was very like hard

[00:54:47] because everything was iced over but then as it warmed up and it ended up getting to be like

[00:54:51] 55 degrees yeah like almost 60 degrees that day so like by the time we were coming down we were

[00:54:55] cleaning the trail up pretty well but we ended up getting up to right right below like the trails

[00:55:03] put a champ me falls like on those ledges on the piper trail so we just went piper trail up and back

[00:55:08] okay and um when we got like right below the trail like there was two sets of footprints that

[00:55:14] were post-holing the whole time and i was like wow they must be miserable then i was like well

[00:55:19] i hope they're at just ahead of us today because if not they've been out here all night and they

[00:55:22] must be really in trouble but they ended up like there was two young young hikers that actually

[00:55:27] were heading down as we were heading up and we ran into them and like they kind of knew they saw

[00:55:33] the snowshoes on us and the kid was like yeah we left us no shoes in the car that was a big mistake

[00:55:38] and i was like i said like you guys must be exhausted and they were like yeah we're never doing

[00:55:42] this again so it was a lesson learned for them the young kids one of them was like 16 and the other

[00:55:47] was like 18 or something yeah shout out to this kid will he's a 16 year old he's done the 4000

[00:55:52] forters done a bunch of winter hiking he just like you know they just left their snowshoes in the car

[00:55:57] and they rolled the dice and they got bit yeah so interesting so was it a matter of um previous

[00:56:03] post-holes that were just there or post-holing active post-holing just fragile the lower the lower part

[00:56:11] of the trail so the first two miles two and a half miles of the piper trail was just like

[00:56:16] wide post-holes everywhere and i've actually put some videos up on the slasher um

[00:56:22] Instagram and then as we got higher up once we got to the ledges it was just those two young people

[00:56:29] that were bustin through and everyone else must have turned around and gave up did nabby tell you

[00:56:35] his story about the twin way when we were when i first met him oh yeah yeah he did yeah i've heard

[00:56:42] that's oh yeah yeah he suffered so immensely that day but anyway yeah but but overall was good

[00:56:50] you know we got up to the like the trail junction of champney falls right before you break out

[00:56:55] above tree line and you know we geared up the wind was whipping pretty fiercely yeah but it was

[00:57:02] like so sunny out and it was warm so um everything was fine we you know we got up to the summit

[00:57:08] we probably spent about 20 minutes on the summit nox did great and took a bunch of awesome photos

[00:57:15] and it was just a perfectly clear day and yeah we headed down and then you know we didn't see

[00:57:20] anybody except for those two young people until we started heading down right below we when we got

[00:57:24] below tree line we saw like another group of like 15 people and none of them had snow shoes and

[00:57:30] they were all just miserable because it was so by that time the sun had been hitting and they

[00:57:35] were all sinking in and they looked like not happy oh and i was just like the none of them had

[00:57:42] snow shoes and i was like lucky you got to bring snow shoes in this this time of the year um

[00:57:46] yeah i have to say this time of the year is a great time to discover bushwhacking because it's

[00:57:52] actually really enjoyable yeah yeah i mean i don't know how fun it would have been the day we went

[00:58:01] because the snow is still pretty deep there but i guess yeah i'll defer to you on that

[00:58:05] hmm cool so anything else on that i mean i saw the video the video was cool

[00:58:12] yeah no it was a good hike um i did actually so i want to move into another segment that is sort

[00:58:17] of like a segue based on the height that i did and it's going to so i want to talk about an old guy

[00:58:26] that i met that is a he finished like the northeast one eleven one fifteen like in the 90s

[00:58:34] and then from meeting him i went down a bit of a rabbit hole about the story of a hiker by the

[00:58:40] name of Jeffrey Rubin who was a tough professor who died on his so this guy had been hiking the

[00:58:48] New England hundred highest and he actually died in the 90s on his finish hike so he had done 99

[00:58:56] of the New England hundred highest and he died on his last hike in mean wow that's so

[00:59:05] yeah it's a crazy story so but let me start with so essentially being knobby we finish up our hike

[00:59:10] and um we had done a couple of videos for the uh vowel clues which you know we'll do an

[00:59:15] advertisement for vowel clues but i was filming up a final sort of video of our backswet for vowel

[00:59:21] clues gear which just the heads up like you know work perfectly like we didn't have any sweat at all

[00:59:26] on the whole hike um but as we're finishing up we're putting our gear in the back and this guy

[00:59:31] pulls up and originally he pulled up at the piper trail and we had gotten the first spot like right

[00:59:37] by where you pay your money for the parking and um i had i immediately i was like oh this must be

[00:59:46] the forest service and i immediately was like oh well i had to stick i buy the sticker every year

[00:59:50] and i was like i hope i'm up to date on my sticker i think i am and i started talking to him and

[00:59:56] he was like oh how are you doing and i said oh great and he's like how was the conditions up there

[01:00:00] and i said oh they were really nice and um he's like was it windy and i said nah well it was pretty

[01:00:06] windy but it wasn't too bad and then i showed him a few pictures and i was like yeah this is the

[01:00:10] view today and he's like that's great so it turns out that this guy is not he didn't work for the forest

[01:00:15] service he's 84 years old and um i asked him i was like oh are you going up and he said no i can't

[01:00:22] hike anymore my knees are i'm 84 my knees are no good uh but he's like look i used to hike all the time

[01:00:28] and he's like look at my license plate so i go and i look at his license plate and his license plate is

[01:00:34] um n-e or yeah n-e 111 uh so he's northeast 111 and i was like oh so you've done all the

[01:00:48] northeast 4,000 footers and he's like yeah i said when did you do him he said oh i finished in

[01:00:54] the in the 90s and i was asking him i was like all right well how did you use to research stuff

[01:00:59] and he's like i don't have a computer i don't do any of that online stuff and he's like i just

[01:01:03] 100% did all the research on um on the northeast 111 slash 115 um based on guidebooks and then he

[01:01:13] starts talking about how like they added the additional four summits and he's talking about how

[01:01:19] like that was like a change to the list and um i asked him his name so his name is Ron Marquise

[01:01:27] so if any listeners are out there and they know this guy Ron like you know give me a heads up

[01:01:31] because i didn't get any of his contact info but i actually would like to follow up with him and

[01:01:35] sounds great let him listen to this this segment but he doesn't have i told him i had a podcast

[01:01:39] matter of fact i gave him a sticker and uh i told him like oh check it out but he's i don't think

[01:01:45] he has a computer so i don't know how he would listen uh but he was telling me all about like you

[01:01:50] know back in the day when they would hike and you know how there wasn't that many people that were

[01:01:55] doing it we were talking about gritting and all this stuff and then he told me that so he's an old

[01:02:01] mill worker so he worked in he's from gorum he since moved to burlin yeah he was a retired

[01:02:09] mill worker he had worked 30 years in the paper mills up there and then he just hiked on his

[01:02:14] on his off time so he retired i think in like the early 2000s one of his friends said like look you

[01:02:20] know you're out there solo you should get a dog so he got a dog so Ron and his dog Teddy

[01:02:26] hiked the 4000 footers so he completed the 4000 footers in the in the early 2000s with this dog

[01:02:32] Teddy and then he wrote a book for um you know in memory of uh Teddy based on their 4000 footers so

[01:02:42] the book is called trailing Teddy and i think he self published it he sold it as a fundraiser

[01:02:48] and he ended up selling like a bunch of copies and donated a bunch of money to the the Jimmy fund

[01:02:53] in memory of Teddy. Matter of fact he had a necklace which i think might have had some ashes of

[01:02:58] Teddy around his neck so it was pretty interesting um so it was cool just like and it sort of was like

[01:03:06] it was a good reminder to me that you know we're lucky that we're physically capable of doing what

[01:03:12] we can do right now we can get out there on a weekly basis if we want because yeah this guy

[01:03:17] well he would have talked to me for two hours but i know we had to get going and whatnot so he was

[01:03:21] he was just basically going down the hardstricky farm to get food and then he pull into the different

[01:03:27] trail heads to see if there were hikers there that he could talk with interesting um and it just hit

[01:03:31] me in my heart that like this is a guy that like he hiked his whole life. Matter of fact he did the

[01:03:37] Appalachian trail he did the long trail um you know he's been all around the all around New England

[01:03:43] hiking in the northeast and you know the the amount of time that we have left to actually get out

[01:03:49] there and do these things is limited. Oh yeah. And you know especially as I get into my 50s i think

[01:03:53] about this stuff like you're a little older than i am like we might have a good 20 years left if

[01:03:58] we're lucky. Well yeah yeah if you're lucky this is so many different factors. Exactly and

[01:04:04] we could go longer you know martin talks about like hiking well past that age but you know you

[01:04:10] never know what's going to happen so it really just a sort of good reminder for the listeners to

[01:04:14] appreciate your health and the ability to get out there and see this cool stuff because it does

[01:04:18] end. I sure does yeah i thank god every time i go out there and i'm like thank you god for my

[01:04:23] health and being able to do this you know it's i've met a lot of patients by the way just doing

[01:04:28] physical therapy that are for my hikers and they tell me is like yeah i miss it so much and they

[01:04:34] makes you think big time like oh man count every day for sure yeah enjoy it. I wanted to backtrack

[01:04:42] for a second though when was that book published and is it available? It's not available

[01:04:50] i think it was published in like 2013. You know when he talked he so he he's talking about his

[01:04:58] dog Teddy and he like lit up and he was like you know he was the greatest dog ever and

[01:05:04] you know basically it was all about like him hiking in hamster me and from off the adorandex

[01:05:09] and the cat skills with his with his dog so um you know and and i did a little bit of googling

[01:05:16] on this guy when i got back home and i was like let me because he told me the book and i looked

[01:05:21] the book up as i was talking him and i actually joked with him i was like look at this young guy

[01:05:25] in the photo because he's got it you know earlier pictures and he's like yeah that was me i was younger

[01:05:29] um but i looked him up and he's actually written uh at least one article for the conway daily

[01:05:35] sun which is a pretty good article and i'll link it in the show notes but in the article so

[01:05:42] Ron Marquis is the guy that i met on the trailhead the 84 year old he had written an article

[01:05:48] in the conway daily sun a couple years ago about the idea of summit fever and he told the story

[01:05:54] about his final hike uh to finish the northeast 100 highest and he had gone up and actually height

[01:06:06] let me just get the names of the mountains here so it was fort mountain so he was going up to

[01:06:15] hike north brother in Maine and um there's another mountain that's a mile away but it's

[01:06:22] pure bushwack and two in its embaxor state park and it's really like you know there's nobody around

[01:06:28] if something gets in trouble so he was he did north brother and he tells the story about like a

[01:06:33] forest ranger that said like hey just a heads up if you go over to fort just make sure that the

[01:06:39] conditions are good and you're feeling good and he in the the forest ranger reminded Ron he's

[01:06:44] like looked as a guy that died in the 90s he had hiked north brother and then he went over he had

[01:06:49] been hiking with a friend the friend was like didn't want to go over to fort mountain in Maine

[01:06:56] so this guy Jeffrey Rubin who was a professor at Tufts went over to fort mountain and that was his

[01:07:04] night it was his hundredth hike on the northeast 100 highest and he actually ended up they don't

[01:07:09] know what happened if he tripped and fell but they found him face down in a stream and he died of

[01:07:14] hypothermia so Ron is sitting there on north brother and he's like wow I got to go over to fort

[01:07:19] and I'm solo and another guy actually ended up hiking over to north brother so he they were

[01:07:25] talking to each other and Ron wasn't really feeling it yep and he ultimately decided like he's

[01:07:31] like I don't think I'm gonna hike over there I don't feel it I'll come back but the other guy

[01:07:35] that he was with was like let's do it together and that way we'll we'll stay safe or we'll die

[01:07:41] together so they went and they did it and Ron finished with the friend but the story of the

[01:07:46] sky Jeffrey Rubin I guess it was in I'm trying to remember what year it was it was 1995

[01:07:56] so essentially like he had gone up he had done a bunch of solo hiking to finish his northeast

[01:08:02] 100 and then on his very last hike so he it's been there done that scene everything when it came

[01:08:07] to hiking and still on his final hike to finish that list he didn't make it credible well yeah well

[01:08:17] so in addition to that I went down another rabbit hole this fort mountain in Baxter State Park

[01:08:24] stop there's actually a plane crash from 1944 on there well on the mountain so it's everything

[01:08:33] about this place I'll show you name written all over it like it's a it's a bushwhack it was a

[01:08:38] a 1944 Douglas C 54 skymaster that okay crash while performing a meal run between Europe and

[01:08:45] North America interesting huh I did not heard of that yeah so it got blown off course by strong winds

[01:08:53] and it was flying low altitude with low visibility and it clipped the top of fort mountain

[01:08:59] and all seven people on board were killed and the crash site wasn't even reached for like a full

[01:09:03] week but the site's pretty extensive and it's it's very similar to the crash site on mount

[01:09:10] success where the fusilage is pretty well intact and there's a ton of ton of debris okay

[01:09:16] matter of fact the engine is actually in much better shape than the one on mount success but I feel

[01:09:22] like this this place stomp has our names written all over it yeah no kidding sounds really cool

[01:09:28] yeah so fort mountain and backster state park fort fort f o r t okay copy

[01:09:38] very good um so that's my segment on Ron Markey and Jeffrey Rubin and the plane crash on

[01:09:46] fort mountain and backster state park trusting yeah we'll definitely try to get this fella

[01:09:51] to come in maybe is he a local do you know where he lives yeah I think he said he lives in

[01:09:58] a gorum now so he's pretty local so if anybody knows him you know reach out let us know give him

[01:10:03] I think he's a he's probably a phone number guy so I can I can call him if you have his number

[01:10:07] so I should have got his info but knobby was anxious to get home so I blame it on knobby okay

[01:10:14] so anyway but I'll include all the stuff in the show notes too so people can check it out there's

[01:10:18] you know good article about Jeffrey Rubin there's a good article about the plane crash site so

[01:10:23] it's good stuff it's it the book is interesting it's sort of the same time frame as

[01:10:28] Tom Ryan's following out of his book I think that was around the same time frame

[01:10:32] 2011 maybe yeah 2013 is when Ron put his book out uh cool

[01:10:39] it's time for slasher's notable hike of the week if you want to be considered for the hike of

[01:10:51] the week simply tag slasher on your social media post very good um so next up here stop is the

[01:11:03] notable listener hikes of the week yeah that's right here we go again who's gonna win

[01:11:09] we never know so if you're interested to be considered for the notable listener hike of the week

[01:11:16] tag slasher on your adventure to be considered and there's no guarantees that you'll be selected but

[01:11:24] it has a good chance unless your name is Dave uh so we have several here

[01:11:30] dian vs dv i'm not even going to guess how that one's pronounced um hiked the finger lakes trail

[01:11:41] little foot comes in with an easter egg hunting adventure in the bell naps

[01:11:48] ginger be a keen tagged us for uh in easter sunday hike up mount pierce and uh it's funny that

[01:11:57] cardigan shows up quite a bit this week but um marley suit too hiked cardigan um cardigan

[01:12:03] lodge to the summit via firescrew trail that's a really nice hike

[01:12:10] boreal badass aka xbox aka real badass hiked winnoweta falls in square ledge including a

[01:12:21] thigh deep excursion through ellis river sounds refreshing and uh last but not least lizfei tagged us

[01:12:31] oh i'm sorry there's one below the the line here at lizfe orange mountain via skyland trail

[01:12:41] and then finally sindicest did mount whatadic from the southern terminus of the walkpack trail

[01:12:47] to the mass nahamshrabwater and then back that's pretty cool i uh commented on lizlizfei's um

[01:12:55] post about orange orange is fantastic you know cardigan's beautiful in and of itself but mount

[01:13:01] ove orange is just another trail it's about mile and a half two miles south and you get this expansive

[01:13:07] view of mount cardigan which is really cool um yeah so anyway only concern with lizz is like she

[01:13:16] hikes with dav right she does and i'm wondering if this is like a sneaky attempt like if we give lizz

[01:13:23] the oh by default hike of the week then she's not telling us that dav was with her and then he can

[01:13:30] claim that he got it oh this is interesting so you're putting lizz in a weird situation here

[01:13:38] well i just don't want to accidentally give dav the notable hike of the week so i think i'll go

[01:13:43] with marley suit up and marley the cardigan hike so good for you that's normal i was doing some

[01:13:51] cool research this week about the whole trail when do you think that's safe to try

[01:13:59] given the conditions i would think probably i mean so it's like it's pretty high up and it's

[01:14:07] a pretty steep it you know it's a pretty steep trail and then it gets direct sunlight i think if

[01:14:13] i recall correctly so my guess would be you know you need a like a good stretch of like maybe

[01:14:19] like three four days worth of like 70 degree weather and then you'd probably be okay i don't know

[01:14:25] about the i didn't actually go up or down the the steep section of the whole trail i just did the

[01:14:30] fire screwed loop yeah and then connected with the whole trail down low yeah so i don't know what it

[01:14:37] looks like before you get pull i don't know what it looks below tree line which isn't gonna get

[01:14:42] as much sun oh yeah it's probably so good i would think like mid may late may you be okay

[01:14:48] i don't even know do they like close it down to hikers the forest servers i don't really know i

[01:14:53] really don't know but uh if anybody knows let us know that's on my radar for sure i'm really curious

[01:14:58] about that one but yeah yeah i mean it's steep like i i've been up to that matter i do want to get

[01:15:04] back to cardigan again that's a great that's great oh it's beautiful but hey let's uh let's just

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[01:17:02] so i was able to sit down with um jack kingsley so jack is down in australia right now um and we'll

[01:17:09] get a little we get into it during the discussion here but it's a really cool segment jack was featured

[01:17:14] on the um the short film caretaker that highlights the harvard cabin so i was able to talk to him about

[01:17:21] a bunch of different topics particularly around the harvard cabin in the making of the film but we got

[01:17:28] into a bunch of other details too um yeah his dad sounds like a cool dude two stars oh yeah

[01:17:36] sounds like we want to hike him with this guy but but overall though jack's a great great guy

[01:17:40] and a really um solid young man so i think let's dump into the the segment here and then we'll

[01:17:46] come out the other side and um hopefully the you know everyone will enjoy this all right let's go

[01:17:54] you beat me to it

[01:18:11] it's time for slasher's guest of the week very cool very cool

[01:18:29] all right so welcome jack kingsley um it's morning time for you in australia so

[01:18:34] um have you woken up you get your coffee i'm good to go besting off in the world here in australia

[01:18:40] yeah yeah so um you said you're going surf and after this i am it summer here yeah i have did

[01:18:45] you surf before have you ever surfed before like we were surfer up in new England no i mean i'm

[01:18:50] a little bit of a cuckerminty comes to the water but i still enjoy paneling out yeah yeah do you

[01:18:55] get freaked out over like i know there's like sharks and stuff in the water do you get freaked out

[01:18:58] over that i am a little concerned about being in back great way but so far so good so fun so

[01:19:05] you know so should be all right yeah no did you have to take lessons or you just winging it and learning

[01:19:09] yourself just being a longboard really so and it would made you decide to do a long board over

[01:19:16] shortboard i'm always curious about this because i don't know i did a little bit of surfing in

[01:19:19] Rhode Island when i was a kid but i i don't really know much about it yeah it's just this

[01:19:24] ability for me the ability to paddle out you know um the shortboards are kind of like Lamborghini's

[01:19:30] and they're a little bit too much fight for me right now so still there yeah all right well you

[01:19:34] get there so we'll talk more about australia in a minute but for the listeners um just a little bit

[01:19:39] of background so we did a couple of weeks ago we had um our friend Josh on he was like the um

[01:19:47] director producer for uh the caretaker short film so you're the guy that was the subject of

[01:19:53] the uh the film so we we shared that with our listeners and i got a lot of real good feedback

[01:19:57] and it's really interesting because i think a lot of the listeners of this show were in the new

[01:20:01] hamster hiking and understanding what goes on for the caretakers and the hot system is

[01:20:06] is of interest to us so we um i think after the after the episode you maybe stomp and your dad

[01:20:11] connected and then he put you in touch with us so appreciate you joining us um but i wanted to talk

[01:20:16] a little bit about your background with the cabin talk about the the film and then um just sort of

[01:20:21] learn a little bit more about you so um i guess maybe to start off with you can you introduce yourself

[01:20:27] and then give a little bit of background about sort of your growing up and and um so your

[01:20:33] background in in outdoor stuff in the hamster in new England yeah totally so jack kingsley um i

[01:20:40] grew up in portland main um my father was mad near my mother uh her whole family is firefighters

[01:20:47] and um grown up i mean any chance we got any it was if it was in the ocean on a rope um gotta get

[01:20:54] thrown into anything that we could you know we used to get it woken up and um just going

[01:20:58] eventually it's which is just we're going to the mountains we're not figured out um and i started

[01:21:04] going about washing in really young um coming back year after year after year um and then pretty soon

[01:21:10] there i was going to the harbour cabin yeah and did you um we you so you took to this obviously so

[01:21:18] you're doing firefighting right now and i'll stril you too right i am all right so you got your

[01:21:23] fathers get you on the mountain piece of it your mom's side of the family's got the the firefighter

[01:21:27] bit of it um what's how much so you did a lot of hiking with your dad was he like a list guy or

[01:21:33] did you pay attention in any of that or you just basically follow where he he told you to go

[01:21:38] yeah i think it started with him you know we started when we were five or six so it just kind of

[01:21:42] taking a walk in the woods and that's progressed as we went along pretty quickly it became

[01:21:47] you know handing me the map and going where do you think we are where we're gonna go

[01:21:51] you know what do you think about the situation let's talk about the risk um she did

[01:21:56] expeditions all around the world and it was kind of a mystery growing up because

[01:21:59] we talked to him and i was suddenly be talking about oh when i was in the park with the monks or

[01:22:04] you know paying off world-lords and afghanistan um you know while going on expedition so he had

[01:22:10] a wealth of knowledge passed on wow and did you start hiking solo or like with your friends pretty young

[01:22:18] yeah yeah i mean as soon as i had a license i was trying to get to the mountains as soon as i could

[01:22:23] well do you feel like like because you're sort of you carried on like your parents legacy did you

[01:22:27] feel like i want to rebel and do something totally different and uh you know move to the city and

[01:22:34] you know play that game or will you always just sort of vinevide with your parents

[01:22:38] you know that's that's a fair question um no i mean i just genuinely enjoy being out i genuinely

[01:22:44] enjoy being a firefighter and i love being in the mountains you know so i'd feel like it's kind of

[01:22:48] my space as much as it is my family space yeah and did you get into winter hiking pretty early as well

[01:22:53] yeah yeah i mean growing up in Maine you know we have a long winter and you got to find a way to have fun

[01:23:00] so we're skiing hiking snowshoeing jumping in the ocean in the middle of winter just anything

[01:23:06] we could to get out really yeah do you have a favorite mountain or a favored area in the

[01:23:10] whites that you go to it's got to be about washing it you know was it always that or did you just

[01:23:16] picked that up when you got in gut involved with being the caretaker at the harvard cabin i think

[01:23:21] it was always that always after me i think i just always saw it as like endless possibility there

[01:23:26] all right and did you when you graduate high school do you go to college or did you um just

[01:23:31] what was your background after you graduate high school yeah so i graduated in 2020 which was COVID um

[01:23:37] i was a committed college athlete at the time in my scholarship disappeared overnight um and that

[01:23:43] was kind of the big seismic shift in my life that led me to australia and to be a caretaker and do

[01:23:48] these different things um pretty quickly it was clear that you know it's time for a gap year and

[01:23:53] and went to noles and then kind of that was the launch pad off for the rest of my life

[01:23:59] all right and then how did you uh i forget it was been a couple of weeks since i watched the film but

[01:24:03] how did you ultimately get connected to be the caretaker and can you talk a little bit about the

[01:24:08] hiring process and onboarding and training yeah totally so Chris Wu was the caretaker when i was in

[01:24:15] high school and then the year of that gap year and he decided he wasn't coming back and i was always

[01:24:19] coming up to him saying oh how do you get this job like to me it was incredible you'd live in

[01:24:23] the mountains just surrounded by this incredible community you have access to all this train and

[01:24:29] all these mines um and he kind of gave me a call and said hey i'm not coming back

[01:24:35] thirty in a minute um didn't get it that first year which probably good things i don't think

[01:24:38] i was ready for it uh following year you know they they're looking for people you put your

[01:24:44] application just like anything else you go through a you know i thought it was a pretty intense

[01:24:48] interview um and then yeah they give you a call and say hey do you want to be the guy and i said

[01:24:54] yeah then uh we went up made a former caretaker and he kind of gave me the inside scoop on a lot

[01:24:59] of things and then there's a um we call the caretakers bible but it's been written by a whole

[01:25:05] bunch of different caretakers of the past and it has all our systems anything you'd ever need to know

[01:25:10] there and you kind of just launched that off that and figured out as you go

[01:25:14] yeah i pitch you opening up that bible and it's like a bright light like indiana jones

[01:25:19] yeah why is the electricity not working oh yeah exactly so now we so you you hung out at the

[01:25:26] harvard cabin a lot when you were younger did you do any of the other cabins that you up to like

[01:25:30] ran off mountain cabins or was it always harvard i think it was always harvard for us and i think

[01:25:35] that's because it the harvard cabin was also great place for my dad so it was kind of became

[01:25:41] like our family spot to go on this so i've done i mean i've done i've climbed honnickton

[01:25:47] ravine a bunch of times in the summer i've never been in there in the winter in that

[01:25:50] fact i haven't been on that side at all like i actually meant to do lions head um this winter but

[01:25:57] i just um it's just too easy to go up am a new sick and then sled down the cog so i've always

[01:26:01] played on that side in the winter but i've done honnickton a bunch of times in the summer

[01:26:07] do you when you're when you're over on that side do you go into honnickton or do you usually

[01:26:11] bypass it and just go up to takerman yeah i think you know our guests and myself include what kind

[01:26:17] of split between you know some ice climbers you go over to honnickton skiers might go in a tux

[01:26:22] and then like people that are summoning would go up into the snow fields and and above um

[01:26:27] it's got a split between all of it um spent a few time in honnickton and keep your time in

[01:26:33] and tux as well do you as a caretaker i'm kind of curious about this like i just did zealon hot

[01:26:39] and you know he didn't really the guy there was fine but he didn't really quiz anybody about

[01:26:45] there like gear or knowledge or anything like that to you did you ever get into that at all

[01:26:50] would like just sort of checking people do sanity check to make sure that they will really

[01:26:55] should be up up in that area or did you just assume that they're you know if they're there

[01:27:00] then they're on their own and that they can figure out their safety piece themselves

[01:27:04] yeah you know we follow the forest service lead on this um but i also believe this is true that

[01:27:09] i want you to understand the risk that you're taking um and if you're okay with that risk

[01:27:15] and you understand the possible consequences of it you know that's that's your choice and you're

[01:27:19] able to make that um there was you know when sometimes you see things that are a little off or

[01:27:25] for example i had someone come up with a static rope um to climb climb ice and that wasn't really

[01:27:30] they don't work for him um so it's a little bit of a delicate balance of you know

[01:27:35] amen this is what might happen if you fall on this rope um here's another option that might be

[01:27:39] super fun for you here's let's get you if you want to be an ice climber let's connect you with

[01:27:44] you know a couple of local guides these are great people um or come out with me on my rope you know

[01:27:50] that that was a i would sometimes go out with guests that's not like an everyday thing um but we

[01:27:55] i think it's more and you try to get it to be their idea but trying to steer people towards

[01:28:00] um toward towards understanding accepting risk you know so you're not being preachy but you're

[01:28:07] also poking a little bit to just give them some advice um so that makes i'm a i'm imagining

[01:28:12] though most of the people that show up are pretty pretty capable absolutely i mean

[01:28:17] almost everyone knows exactly what they're doing and um yeah or some really incredible

[01:28:22] amount of years past through that that catman every year yeah now how much did you so you've been

[01:28:27] that you you were going there a lot a long time before you actually got the job as caretaker did

[01:28:30] you know a lot about the history of the cabin yeah you know um just from being at the cabin and

[01:28:37] and being around i kind of knew the the folklore side of the history you know like when Fred

[01:28:42] Becky came and and wrote um i was here on the back of the latrine and you know kind of all those

[01:28:48] folk stories from the past um i always knew who's kind of had my family's history in it as well

[01:28:55] my dad would because my dad went to college and when he was in college he'd go to class for two

[01:28:59] days and then bring all his homework up climb the day and then do his homework a night so there's

[01:29:04] heaps of stories from there as well and then i learned that the kind of administrative and

[01:29:08] and all the history of how it was built and everything like that once i got there yeah yeah it's

[01:29:12] it's interesting and then as far as the all of the you know you talk about the bible and all the

[01:29:19] duties that you have to um manage can you and maybe it's been a while but like could you run

[01:29:24] the listeners through like what what the typical checkpoints are for i'm assuming like you got to

[01:29:29] get water you get uh make sure that the latrine is clean or or set up what else like what's the checklist

[01:29:37] of things that you got to worry about as the caretaker yeah so starting right in the morning um

[01:29:42] about five o'clock wake up go over the snow pits and um we're effectively gathering data for

[01:29:47] the forest service of national weather service um that's always tough because you wake up in your

[01:29:51] warm sleeping bag and you hear the wind howling outside you gotta go out there but you don't really

[01:29:55] want to get up um yeah and you lay it up and it's like a cup of coffee it wakes you up every time

[01:30:00] that cold air um you know a lot of the things are other things you do just survive anyways um

[01:30:06] getting water shoveling making sure all your main three systems are right your firewood

[01:30:12] your um propane and then your electricity which do and can break consistently um

[01:30:20] and then beyond that you know then we're then you're moving into talking to your guests

[01:30:24] i always like to know roughly where my people are going um just in case they didn't come back at the

[01:30:28] end of the night um and then you know kind of your days you go and you might go um kind of poke

[01:30:35] into honey tins and get some data um you might go ski left um kind of from nine thirty to five

[01:30:42] is is your time um and then rolling back in is you know let's get the fire going let's get hot water

[01:30:48] on let's make sure everyone's come home and uh let's have a good time

[01:30:52] when you have like crazy storm systems like you get bombed by like a foot and a half two feet of snow

[01:30:58] how much shoveling around the cabin do you actually have to do not a day and a half where

[01:31:03] it just keeps um i mean it can at times um especially in early season because i like to pack

[01:31:09] the sides of the cabin um to get keeps a little bit warmer especially in those real cold nights

[01:31:15] so you know you get your normal let's get the front yard kind of and that's like half an hour

[01:31:20] an hour but moving all the snow over to effectively make a big igloo of the cabin was uh

[01:31:26] was a lot of shoveling did you know with it with the uh the visitors did they help you with

[01:31:30] shoveling sometimes yeah the visitors are incredible i mean i never really asked them to do

[01:31:34] anything like that i was like you guys around vacation or taking your time you're on the mound

[01:31:38] you should do your thing but people are so generous yeah yeah i know the AMC hot so like i've been up

[01:31:43] by lonesome lake in the winter and like the the boy scouts will show up and they're allowed but they

[01:31:48] they definitely do the work for shoveling in those areas so but you probably don't get the the

[01:31:52] boy scouts visiting too much i would guess i think the boy scouts we get college groups good bit yeah

[01:31:58] that's good what about cooking are you are you a good cook or do you uh you you you pretty

[01:32:03] spartan when it comes to what you're eating up there um you know um all my food came up on back so

[01:32:12] you know the first couple of days were gourmet you know i spent my time eating cooking i have you know

[01:32:18] burgers and i mean whatever right and slowly i would always eat my best food which meant i was always

[01:32:24] eating my best food and towards the end of my kind of rash until it get pretty spartan you know

[01:32:29] be like rice and soy sauce and call it a day yeah yeah and what was the shift it well how many

[01:32:33] how many you there for a week and then gone for a week or how did that work four months on

[01:32:39] all the other so you were there for that's right okay so you weren't that confused with the AMC

[01:32:44] model where they do like one week off so you're there the whole time do you get your dad to bring

[01:32:48] you some uh like some some filet minion or some good stuff he come up i told him when he came

[01:32:53] up he had to bring a steak or whiskey and that was his uh that's what he had to do yeah yeah that's

[01:32:58] true i forgot about that so yeah you're there for the whole four months that is uh that's wild

[01:33:03] and then what about uh entertainment when you when you get visitors are you in charge of like

[01:33:09] playing the the guitar or anything or you just leave it up to them to play cards and do whatever

[01:33:13] they want i mean generally people are pretty good um i think i just try to be inviting to people

[01:33:19] and try to be inviting to people as soon as they walk in the door i think that kind of set the tone

[01:33:24] and then being like most of the time people would do about themselves some kind of people stand up

[01:33:28] welcome each other say you know come sit with us but if not i might introduce hey jimmy this is

[01:33:33] xylex you guys both are ice climbers you know and and ever come together it's not a very big space and um

[01:33:40] you know it's kind of very conducive just making friends yeah yeah i've been over there a couple

[01:33:46] times in the summer just to check it out but i haven't been over there in winter so that's going

[01:33:50] to be my goal next year i'm gonna get on that side and i'm gonna play in the winter up over there

[01:33:56] what about um so you did it for four months and then are you planning on coming back again

[01:34:01] yes i'm over in australia right now um kind of doing the whole land on other thing and i'd love to come

[01:34:07] back um i absolutely miss my washing like allen it's such a special place if i was getting

[01:34:12] out opportunity again um i'd love to right now we've got jimmy rips and he's doing incredible

[01:34:17] job and his incredible mountaineer and truly monso so he's got the reins right now and he's killing it

[01:34:22] but you know when he wants to move on i might want to come back in awesome and uh did you ever get

[01:34:28] tapped to come on some some rescues if anybody got in trouble or were you just too far away for that

[01:34:35] uh yeah yeah part of the duties of the caretaker is to assist the forest service in their

[01:34:40] search and rescue um i was part of five we had a busy season um the first being on my fifth day of

[01:34:47] work um uh avalanche victim and left gully and uh yeah you know i think most of the time the

[01:34:54] thing is we live up there and we're kind of prepositions um and especially when there's not

[01:34:59] snow be like access we're kind of for we're much closer um i'm kind of get to the patient sooner um

[01:35:07] you know through the forest service directive so as needed they might give us a call

[01:35:12] and then is it up to you to make the call to say like all right well

[01:35:16] you know i get ten guests here and i can't leave because you know i'm going to worry about the

[01:35:20] guest or do you if they call and say we need help you just go in and drop in everything

[01:35:25] yeah i think like we operate under we're just gonna go um i've always been able to just kind of

[01:35:31] leave the cabin and it's never burned down or had gone too crazy so um you know people can generally

[01:35:37] take care of themselves and most people are pretty responsible with it so i never thought anything about

[01:35:41] you know not leaving casera's guest there uh it's all good to go awesome um and then as far

[01:35:48] as the activities so you've got you've got ice climbing you've got backcountry skiing you've got hiking

[01:35:52] do you have a do you have a uh a preference do you have one that you like over the other

[01:35:57] um you know before i was backcountry skier and then i really got an ice climbing and then putting

[01:36:03] those together um really has become incredible you know like going up pinnacle down right um

[01:36:10] and just kind of being able to float through the mountains and mix your adventures that way it's been

[01:36:14] been really awesome so i think kind of the days where you can go you know kind of mixed ice climb

[01:36:19] into a summit into uh you know left golly right golly shoe uh descend back to the cabin are

[01:36:26] are really fun and does your dad still keep up with you i can throw down uh yeah yeah yeah

[01:36:33] well you're young guy so he must me your dad's probably close to my i mean i'm a daughter you're

[01:36:37] age so so i'm not not too crazy but i can still get out there so yeah no he's got the

[01:36:44] technique you know yeah i'm or the pull-up climber you know so yes he knows how to be efficient i'm sure

[01:36:50] which is good um so what is your can i'm curious so you it's interesting you're taking i guess

[01:36:57] what you would say a non-traditional path like i mean i've no i know a lot of people your age and

[01:37:02] you know the typical path is like okay go to college get your degree work to get some internships

[01:37:08] maybe get a you know corporate job or take a year off to do some traveling uh but you're sort

[01:37:13] of you're you're doing a mix where you're focused on you know some outdoor work and then you've

[01:37:17] got the work as a firefighter can you talk a little bit about how you've ended up with these

[01:37:22] career opportunities yeah absolutely um COVID like that kind of changed everything for me um yeah

[01:37:32] and you know that traditional path kind of disappeared overnight um and what i've found is that

[01:37:38] you know i think the classroom's a great place um i think you can grow a lot and then i think

[01:37:44] the college degree is it's great but um i'm also trying to grow i'm just trying to be in the

[01:37:49] pursuit of knowledge and i think i can find that outside of the classroom um you know for me

[01:37:54] i was kind of geographically non-centered i could take any job anywhere um and that really helped

[01:38:01] me be able to move around um i also realized that you know if i applied for 100 fire jobs when i got

[01:38:08] one call back i only needed one call back um so you know those two things together really have allowed

[01:38:14] me to uh to kind of pursue some of these outdoor adventures and being different in new places you know

[01:38:20] yeah and it's like one that one opportunity especially firefighting once you've got that on your

[01:38:24] resume then it the next time you only get to apply to 50 jobs and you can get one call back

[01:38:29] so when you say yes to adventure you know it kind of multiplies on its shelf

[01:38:34] yeah yeah how did the skig in australia develop for you

[01:38:38] yeah so um i was a federal firefighter for the us4 servers and they stand there guys over

[01:38:45] when we're having a bad time um and you know they're incredible people and they're they're always

[01:38:50] kind of laughing i'll come on over and see what we do and uh i kind of have the space and time to

[01:38:54] do so so you know applied and and they pick me right up so yeah i'm not sitting in the great land

[01:39:00] down under well how was the adjustment been moving down there uh it's incredibly cold you're

[01:39:05] shocking you know um which it would be but the odds are such an open and kind people um they kind

[01:39:13] of come to everyone like they assume that you were already friends um there's kind of no wall

[01:39:18] between people was really incredible it is hard to understand their accents though especially deep

[01:39:22] in bush yeah yeah i bet i bet um and then the living are you in a city or are you um

[01:39:29] in a more rural area yeah i spent the last six months pretty deep in bush um in a ton of three

[01:39:35] thousands surrounded by kangaroos really did you over how much interaction did you have with

[01:39:40] the kangaroos i mean every day they're in my backyard really yeah could you could you could

[01:39:45] you approach them or you have to worry they're gonna punch you in the head these were the big reds

[01:39:49] the ones that have six packs and kind of like jacked up yeah they're jacked yeah so i kind of

[01:39:54] gave them their space that respect you know yeah yeah well that's interesting and then is there a

[01:39:59] lot of activity with bushfires and where you were yeah it's been a relatively quiet season um

[01:40:05] with a pop at the end so we've been kind of flat out for the last two months um yeah and you know

[01:40:12] kind of bouncing around the state of Victoria okay and this is a contract gig where you'll have to

[01:40:17] eventually um it'll it'll land and you'll move on to something new yeah exactly we do about six

[01:40:22] months half a year um just as soon as we move on yeah what a life i mean for the listeners here so

[01:40:27] just my opinion and jack you can comment on this but you know i went through sort of the traditional

[01:40:32] path where i did i really didn't take that break and i've got a chance to do some travel

[01:40:37] matter fact i'm going to europe next week so i'm gonna do a little bit climbing and like pull in

[01:40:40] this levaccia but um you know it's like one day at a time but like to really immerse yourself into a new

[01:40:46] area like uh you did the smart move covid during college during covid was just brutal so i can tell

[01:40:53] you from experience with my own kids so it's a smart move to do this early because you know you don't

[01:41:00] know how much time you have in this world and i think taking um time when you're young and healthy

[01:41:05] to do this stuff is it's it's it's a smart move yeah absolutely i also think the other thing that

[01:41:10] you know making this move and living the way i happily just really helped me with was you know

[01:41:15] when i was 18 um i was on a go play across me a business major um which would have been completely

[01:41:20] different life and that wasn't really me and i didn't know who i was um but being able to say yes

[01:41:26] to eventually and then learning the lessons of what was ready for me and what i wanted to be doing

[01:41:31] has kind of set me on the path that that feels right you know um yeah come back and say if i

[01:41:37] wanted to go to college i know what i'm going up to college floor um instead of just kind of

[01:41:41] to do it to do it yeah and now you're a movie star too that's not good that part now

[01:41:46] well so what's uh what's the reaction so you sort of like did you kind of miss the reaction

[01:41:51] because you've been away a bit but um have you heard of any feedback at all on the film

[01:41:56] yeah it's been so incredible um i think one thing that's super funny about

[01:42:00] you know being a caretaker being a firefighter living on a boat anything that like this people don't

[01:42:05] always they kind of get it but they don't really understand um and the film is almost like downloading

[01:42:10] my memories and putting on screen um so there's been all these you know my friends family and then

[01:42:16] just kind of the community of large um reaction to it has been so incredible and yeah i mean it

[01:42:22] i can't even believe it yeah just showing if your buddies in australia when you were sitting

[01:42:27] there and downtime and say like look i actually i i i accomplished some stuff before i got here

[01:42:32] yeah exactly they're so funny they go oh look at all that snout yeah oh that's true because

[01:42:38] they don't really get that uh see that environment at all there's like one mountain snow in this whole

[01:42:43] country so yeah you know what i mean yeah yeah yeah wow so um just general advice from your perspective

[01:42:51] um as far as safety goes do you do you do you tend to when you go out even you know before you

[01:42:58] would do in the caretaker stuff and you were just a hiker do you tend to go like light and fast or

[01:43:03] we more of a heavy packer does your dad have like a perspective on that that he passed down to you

[01:43:09] yeah um a little bit of both so you know i think kind of depends on what i'm getting after and if

[01:43:15] i'm in a professional or personal setting um professionally i'd carry a lot of weight um like

[01:43:22] wildland firefighting it was close to 65 pounds plus the chainsaw um and then you know

[01:43:28] carrying all the rescue gear in the bag everywhere i went definitely add to that heavy

[01:43:31] heaviness but i'm sorry hoping to save my body so i've been moving towards light i'm not sure i'm at

[01:43:37] ultra light yet i'm not kind of my toothbrush and hack or anything like that um in terms of advice

[01:43:43] for you know being out of the mounds especially not washing in the winter i just think i see a lot of

[01:43:48] people in myself included we're all all part of this kind of getting her heristic traps you know you

[01:43:53] show up on the mountain it's weekend you really want to ski left um but maybe left isn't in

[01:43:59] or maybe it's not right but you know work here we're going to do it or you know i'm with my

[01:44:04] buddy and i think that you know i'm kind of the halo effect of their better skier than me so i'm

[01:44:09] just trying to do what they do um i just think that you know there's no and much rather kind of bail out

[01:44:15] and go sit at the cabin have a good conversation then um then push it and and you know maybe have

[01:44:21] a bad outcome yeah yeah we talk about that a lot is the you know the voice inside your head that

[01:44:26] tells you the you know to turn around and when you've invested the time and effort i mean it's

[01:44:30] easy i guess when you're in the cabin they have for four months and you don't have to uh you know

[01:44:35] it's not just one weekend and then you can't get back for a couple of months but like that investment

[01:44:40] in time an effort to get where you are and then having to turn back before you reach your goal

[01:44:45] being willing to do that i think people get in trouble sometimes when they when they push forward

[01:44:49] and then the group dynamic that you talk about too is the other thing is you know ideally you're

[01:44:54] in a group where people are going to talk to each other and and do the checks to say like hey you

[01:44:58] cool with this um we talk about that stuff all the time yeah absolutely you start hearing that

[01:45:03] voice and back your head that just doesn't feel right um just listen to it it's all good you know

[01:45:09] yeah yeah exactly um any so do you have future plans at this point lined up or are you just

[01:45:17] you just you're just looking to maybe get back to the harbor cabin next next winter is that

[01:45:22] pretty much it yeah you know um me and long term plans over the last couple of years haven't gone along

[01:45:30] usually say i have more of a direction than i have a plan um looking six months to a year ahead

[01:45:35] and then five years as well um directionally i'm trying to you know maybe work in the medicine

[01:45:41] find a i did a little search and rescue and that's really uh kind of opened my eyes that whole world

[01:45:46] and i'd love to get in that space a little bit more but however i can get there and and be an

[01:45:50] environment to help me grow it's it's kind of the direction more than the plan you know yeah yeah so

[01:45:55] you see seems like it's been working for you so much uh right now that uh and that's it is like

[01:46:01] one one door closes another one typically opens up and i work in like you know i work in a big

[01:46:06] tech company and a human resources function and you know so people leave and you hear from them

[01:46:10] like a month later and they're like oh it was the best thing that ever happened to me i

[01:46:13] found some path that i didn't even think about so um but yeah the uh the the film is great

[01:46:20] can you talk a little bit about like you're the work that you did for filming was it was

[01:46:23] difficult to be in front of the camera and get a cadence down or did you just ignore it

[01:46:29] like how hard was that to get to the point where you could ignore it yeah super interesting um

[01:46:34] the guys have warden art wizards i've never seen anything like it i couldn't believe i

[01:46:38] got spent so much time just looking at their screen going are you sure it looks like that like it

[01:46:42] was just blowing my mind yeah huh it was kind of hard to explain and understand because

[01:46:47] that's been so much time in the cabin they made it look better than you could see with your own eyes

[01:46:52] you know um it was pretty funny though you know met them my last day of the season and then

[01:47:00] kind of saw them again a year and a half later with all these cameras um and you know it

[01:47:05] pretty soon it was just here's the camera and let's go um and you know they're putting it

[01:47:10] you know half foot of up away from your face is going hey we're not here we go you're definitely

[01:47:14] arguing you know yeah you could have really broken them too because they're carrying like 80 pounds

[01:47:20] worth of gear and you could probably could have just moved pretty quickly and then broke their backs

[01:47:25] the amount of gear i knew they were serious when i saw the amount of gear they had i mean

[01:47:30] 200 pounds 300 pounds yeah i was talking to stop about it and like the biggest thing to me

[01:47:35] about that film is and again i haven't been in winter at the Harvard cabin but i've been over

[01:47:40] nights on the RMC hot and i've done you know a lot of winter hiking and i don't know what it is

[01:47:47] about it but they captured the i guess they captured the mood of what it's like to be in those

[01:47:53] ravines and in the winter you know whatever that vibe is there's a certain vibe and you can't

[01:47:58] explain it's a people unless you've been out there but they just they just captured it really well

[01:48:03] that truly did i mean i can believe it felt like watching my own memories on screen it was that good

[01:48:09] you know yeah yeah and well i'll link it back in our show notes so the listeners can check it out

[01:48:14] again i know that we had a lot of good comments from the listeners before but um very happy that

[01:48:19] your dad reached out and connected with stomp and got us connected i appreciate you getting up

[01:48:24] and you know having your coffee oh by the way uh the coffee that you drink now like nothing can

[01:48:30] compare i'm assuming to the coffee that you prepare at the cabin and and a freezing cold winter morning

[01:48:35] right yeah i mean there's something to be said about black coffee when you're so cold like you

[01:48:41] know in the middle you know they're like asked australia makes incredible coffee and they take a lot of

[01:48:46] pride in that and it's damn good but you can't be being dead cold all the way to the core and

[01:48:51] getting that first thing in the morning you know just something special about it yeah exactly so

[01:48:56] i mean so you eventually you got to get back into the snow you know enough of the surfing stuff

[01:49:01] i miss it i'm not gonna be as soon as i can right back for the cramp and cramp on some ice

[01:49:05] acts as my hand yeah yeah no does your dad um does he do any more big mountain adventure stuff

[01:49:10] would you ever do that with him like go go do do some of those 8,000 meter climbs or anything

[01:49:15] like that that would be awesome over the last couple years um keep really toned it down

[01:49:21] right after like right when i was born um just for the risk actors involved in that yeah yeah and then

[01:49:27] you know over the last couple of years he's been getting up on my wash and he's been you know

[01:49:31] paddling heaps he's kind of been getting gnarly it's been awesome to see and yeah i mean

[01:49:36] it's incredible to go you know into the into the albs area over in Nepal or anything like that with him

[01:49:41] yeah yeah well we'll see but um when you do get back to nighamshire definitely give us a heads up

[01:49:48] and we'll uh we'll meet up and you know i'm not much of an ice climber but i'll definitely do like

[01:49:52] lions head root and go up that way that'd be super fun yeah yeah awesome so um anything else um

[01:49:59] i gonna so i'll plug all the you know the film and all that stuff anything else we missed

[01:50:03] that you wanted to share with the listeners i just want to say how good of a job jimmy is the guy

[01:50:08] who's taken over and is working it right now um he is the person we should have there and he is a

[01:50:14] caretaker down to the bone and i just he's coming close to the end of his season right now and i

[01:50:18] just wanted to kind of give a shout out to him because he's uh he's amazing yeah he's getting hammered

[01:50:23] with snow they've been him a tough sendoff because it's i think they're getting a foot foot in a half

[01:50:28] of snow today knowing him he'll probably stay for a little while yeah yeah so that's dedication so

[01:50:34] yeah i mean thumbs up to all the caretakers and all those hots because uh it's i'll tell you

[01:50:39] like sometimes every once in a while like you're hiking especially in like i'm familiar with the

[01:50:44] rmc huts and like on atoms and it's nice going in there and warming up when you're you coming up

[01:50:49] a low path you'd die in and then you see that hot and you're just like all right this gives me 10

[01:50:54] minutes to relax and sit down absolutely yeah awesome well i appreciate you taking the time

[01:51:02] jack and um you know stay in touch and we'll definitely share the film again with our listeners

[01:51:08] well thank you thank you for me

[01:51:18] all right stomps so yeah pretty interesting huh yeah that was great that was really good

[01:51:23] he's doing it right for sure i think um i was thinking as i was talking to jack how uh if i could

[01:51:31] go back in time and change things up a little bit i might have um taken that time when i was a young

[01:51:38] person to you know less focus on maybe the the college and the career path and a little bit more

[01:51:45] focus on um experience in the world i think that's a better way to educate yourself so not to say

[01:51:52] that traditional past not not good but i think that uh it's really interesting and uh he seems like

[01:51:57] he's looking to get back into the harbour cabin in the future so maybe next winter um you know he'll be

[01:52:02] he'll be around yeah i really enjoyed the talk about surfing and the long boards because that's what i

[01:52:09] grew up learning on my dad and i surfed during the hurricanes around here around you know

[01:52:14] Boston north of Boston south and that was cool listening to him talking about surfing and great lights

[01:52:20] oh come on yeah and it made sense i always wondered that about like how do you pick between like the

[01:52:27] the long board and the short stuff and i think the stability and all that makes absolutely i think

[01:52:31] i've only ever surfed like i tried surfing a little bit in Rhode Island and then and new ham sure

[01:52:36] and whatnot but yeah i didn't really ever get into it enough to really know the difference between

[01:52:40] a long board and a short bird but yeah he sounds like he's he's living life yeah no that's fantastic

[01:52:46] so yeah that was great and jack as you if you listen to this i appreciate you getting up a

[01:52:49] little early he was like it was 9 30 his time when i talked to him in the morning and uh he likes

[01:52:55] to sleep so yeah i appreciate him being flexible for us yeah absolutely thanks

[01:53:02] very good and then we'll link all of the um the the links to the the film for anybody that's

[01:53:08] and seen it so that you can actually access it in the show notes absolutely it's a good film

[01:53:13] really well done yeah oh it's fantastic

[01:53:38] yeah

[01:54:00] all right stop so moving on to our next segment here this is where we do recent search and rescue news

[01:54:05] so we don't have anything local thankfully i got a feeling that's going to change next week of the

[01:54:10] week after but we do have a couple of high volume rescues here we got one from china we've got one

[01:54:18] from tywan so let's do 27 hikers were rescued in china due to a fire on a hill so i guess they got

[01:54:30] trapped by a hill fire in china and they were taken by boat to a ferry i guess the fire broke out

[01:54:39] just before noon it was put out and then the government of china was able to i guess drop some water

[01:54:46] on the blaze but during the time that this fire had blown up a bunch of hikers were out in the area

[01:54:52] and they were able to mobilize them and get them out but i guess they did a boat rescue which is

[01:54:57] interesting so must be close to a body of water yeah that's a lot of people

[01:55:02] that is yeah logistically it's interesting yeah and by the way this week seems to be the week like

[01:55:09] if you want to play numbers for the lottery this is your week so the first one's 27

[01:55:16] write that down and here comes the next story and then this next one is like 16 hikers was

[01:55:22] streamed and this is an organ and so a group of adult teens were hiking the rogue river trail

[01:55:31] that's a cool name for a trail yeah and they had two issues one was inclement weather

[01:55:38] so that kept them from going further and then secondly there was an outbreak of blisters

[01:55:43] storm yeah what's up with that blisters or is that something you develop uh i don't know what's

[01:55:51] the story say let's see so uh dispatchers from the Curry County Sheriff's Office received a call

[01:55:58] from Garmin International who reported they received an SOS from a man in Kusbe, Oregon at 755 pm

[01:56:07] on Thursday the man uses Garmin in reach to report to 10 miners and four adults were stranded on

[01:56:13] the rogue river trail which is a 40 mile national recreational trail in southwestern Oregon

[01:56:19] when the rescues arrived the next day they ended up evacuating a total of 16 hikers who would

[01:56:25] spend the night unprepared for conditions they were all wet and cold due to inclement weather and

[01:56:32] some of the boys had blisters on their feet and they weren't able to continue so it wasn't clear

[01:56:37] if the group was planning to hike the whole trail it's just a section of it um i guess you can get

[01:56:43] get into like there's a bunch of different access points but essentially one member of the group

[01:56:47] stopped hiking earlier in the data escorted kid who wasn't feeling well out of the area and um

[01:56:54] they were able to make contact with this person and then some search and rescue volunteers were

[01:57:01] able to um i guess take a boat down the river to an area where they thought that the people were

[01:57:07] located and um they ended up hiking in about four and a half miles with the group had spent

[01:57:13] the night near the rogue river branch and they had to take multiple trips to get all 16 of the hikers

[01:57:19] by boat back to the sheriff's area and um interesting yeah that's it so they got a bunch of uh

[01:57:27] bunch of blisters and they didn't really have the right preparation so what a disaster yes i'm trying

[01:57:33] to figure out exactly where they were so this trail is a 40 mile recreational trail and later in

[01:57:39] the article it says they were basically halfway so they it's a four day excursion in general you

[01:57:46] can go off for four days so maybe these kids are out for two days and did two 10 mile days and ended

[01:57:51] up right in the middle does that sound about right sounds about right i mean that's that's certainly

[01:57:57] enough to develop some blisters yeah yeah it's certainly yeah uh um yeah i mean young kids too like

[01:58:05] they don't know enough to say like oh i have a hot spot let me slow down and fix that

[01:58:09] like they just keep walking it's tough when you're younger and your skin is soft like that

[01:58:14] yeah yeah i mean if i get a hot spot now i'm like um i go right into like nursing mode and fix

[01:58:20] that stuff i just have two stumps of scar tissue at the bottom of my legs they they never do anything

[01:58:26] like that anymore it's funny yeah i'm sure your feet are just gonna stop

[01:58:31] all right this next one here so the number two so you've got um yes so so your lottery numbers

[01:58:40] 27 16 and two and that's all we have two Canadian hikers were rescued at 8 p.m. on Wednesday April

[01:58:46] 3rd after being trapped on terraco gorges shock a dang trail following a 7.2 magnitude earthquake

[01:58:55] type hey or in in Taiwan earthquake talks so yeah so i guess 14 people been hiking in this

[01:59:02] trail when the earthquake struck 12 made their way down and two remaining hikers required a

[01:59:09] relentless search and rescue so these were two Canadian hikers 29 year old man and a 35 year old

[01:59:15] woman they had minor injuries and scratches that um the required medical care so um at the same time

[01:59:23] this was going on a little bit farther away in terraco national park there was three people that

[01:59:30] been traveling on a trail called the decalune trail that were killed instantly by a rock fall so

[01:59:36] amazing knowledge good uh not a good day yeah amazing yeah kind of timely because we had an earthquake

[01:59:44] today did you feel it i did feel it actually but i thought it was my neighbors doing construction

[01:59:51] because they let they are doing construction over there and i've heard some rumbling and i was like oh

[01:59:55] it must be the um it must be like them doing work next door but then immediately i think you

[02:00:03] texted me and then some other friends texted me that an earthquake went down and i was like oh

[02:00:07] it must have been the earthquake yeah i guess new jersey was the genesis yes yeah pretty interesting

[02:00:13] a lot of activity but yeah yeah because there's been a couple in the hamster recently i predict

[02:00:19] that we're gonna have like a major earthquake in the northeast is like so unprepared for this

[02:00:24] that like it's going to be a huge natural disaster i think that's going to be the next big thing

[02:00:29] i don't know enough about it but um certainly there's been an uptick in activity

[02:00:35] but uh yeah we shall see fortify your foundations people

[02:00:42] that's right and if you need those how do you do that you call jimmy chaga that's what you do

[02:00:47] true true yeah jimmy chaga can help you out to earthquake proof your home

[02:00:52] yeah he's a pro home earthquake proofer that's right stop um so this will do it for episode 146 so

[02:01:01] thanks again to jacks king jack kingsley for joining us and we will see you uh next weekend

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[02:01:57] mega beats now covered in scratches blisters and bug bites christach wanted to complete his most

[02:02:05] challenging day height ever fishing game officers say the hiker from florida activated an emergency

[02:02:11] weekend yesterday morning he was hiking along the appellation trail when the weather started to get

[02:02:17] worse officials say the snow was piled up to three feet in some spots and there was a wind shell of

[02:02:22] minus one degree ten of james dee lived in your hamster fishing game those end of

[02:02:34] things we're being with us today what are some of the most common mistakes you see people make

[02:02:40] when they're heading out on the trails to hike your inner hamster seems to me the most common

[02:02:43] is being unprepared i think if they just simply visited uh hikesafe.com and got a list of the

[02:02:48] ten essential items and had those in their packs they probably would have no need to ever call us at all