Episode 147 - Eric Todd Sweet - Dave Sh*ts in the Woods - 48 Peaks Alzheimer's

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[00:02:43] Broadcasting from the Woodpecker Studio in the great state of New Hampshire, welcome to the

[00:03:06] Sounds Like a Search and Rescue podcast where we discuss all things related to hiking and

[00:03:12] search and rescue in the White Mountains of New Hampshire.

[00:03:15] Here are your hosts, Mike and Stump.

[00:03:39] Alright, welcome to episode 147 of the Sounds Like a Search and Rescue podcast.

[00:03:46] Tonight while Mike is gallivanting over in Europe, we have very special guests, Eric

[00:03:52] Todd Sweet and Dave Schitts in the Woods, special in-house guests.

[00:03:58] So they're here live at the Woodpecker Studio and we are going to be covering all the

[00:04:03] craziness that happened over the eclipse.

[00:04:07] An update on some modern art that's blowing up minds of hikers.

[00:04:11] We're going to talk a little bit about geocaching and what that means for the White Mountains

[00:04:16] and leave no trace.

[00:04:19] We've got a couple dad jokes for you, a special eclipse edition.

[00:04:23] And of course later on in the show we are visited by the great people of 48 Peaks

[00:04:29] Alzheimer's.

[00:04:31] So I'm Stump and I'm Stomp.

[00:04:37] Let's get started.

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[00:05:33] And now for all my newer hikers out there, here's this episode's Hiking Buddies Quick Tip.

[00:05:46] Plan the hike taking in all ability and skill levels.

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[00:05:55] Communicate with team members

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[00:06:13] Alright, we are rolling.

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[00:06:17] Run. Welcome!

[00:06:20] Alright, this is Stomp. I'm here with Dave

[00:06:24] Leaps in the Woods and Eric Todd Sweet while Mike is hanging out in Krakow, Europe.

[00:06:32] You said Krakow?

[00:06:34] I thought he said Krakow.

[00:06:36] I was worried.

[00:06:38] I didn't know.

[00:06:40] He seemed like he had high energy.

[00:06:42] That makes sense.

[00:06:44] I knew there was a reason.

[00:06:46] Yeah, it's a deep secret.

[00:06:48] He doesn't want to tell anybody.

[00:06:50] He sent me a text from Krakow.

[00:06:52] I'm just gonna rub it in.

[00:06:54] It's a better one.

[00:06:56] Let's see.

[00:06:58] I don't even know what episode this is.

[00:07:00] 147.

[00:07:02] We're just hanging in Thornton.

[00:07:04] We have in-house guests tonight.

[00:07:06] We were talking about maybe not recording this week,

[00:07:08] but we had a guest lined up.

[00:07:10] So we figured we'd make it happen.

[00:07:12] We really appreciate you guys coming by.

[00:07:14] Appreciate it.

[00:07:16] Thank you.

[00:07:18] Let's start off with the old Apocalypse.

[00:07:20] Let's get right to the notable hike

[00:07:22] and let's vote for me right now.

[00:07:24] Because Mike's not here.

[00:07:26] Let's just get this done.

[00:07:28] Let's get right to it, right?

[00:07:30] So how was your Apocalypse, Eric?

[00:07:32] Awesome.

[00:07:34] What did you end up doing?

[00:07:36] Went to Christine Lake up in Stark, New Hampshire.

[00:07:38] With Captain Chris Lynn Suiza.

[00:07:40] Oh yeah.

[00:07:42] And a couple of friends and buddy Bob.

[00:07:44] Yeah.

[00:07:46] Actually a lot of hikers show up too.

[00:07:48] So where is this place exactly?

[00:07:50] It's not far from Cabot.

[00:07:52] Not too far from Cabot.

[00:07:54] It's past Lancaster.

[00:07:56] I got a dude from New Jersey hanging out with me for a week

[00:07:58] and he's the one that suggested,

[00:08:00] yeah, I'm going to go to Christine Lake.

[00:08:02] Never heard of it.

[00:08:04] Drove up there. A lot of people.

[00:08:06] But absolutely beautiful.

[00:08:08] You could walk right across the ice.

[00:08:10] It was crowded.

[00:08:12] It started off at maybe 20, 30.

[00:08:14] Ended up at maybe over 100.

[00:08:16] I'm going to Lynn Suiza.

[00:08:18] Put some glasses on it.

[00:08:20] She even put the sweatshirt.

[00:08:22] Did you see it?

[00:08:24] I thought you guys were at Lonesome Lake for some reason.

[00:08:26] No, no, no. Christine Lake.

[00:08:28] Never heard of it.

[00:08:30] Nice place.

[00:08:32] Awesome. How about you Dave?

[00:08:34] I was up in Vermont.

[00:08:36] I got the place in Vermont near St. John'sbury.

[00:08:38] Kind of around Littleton.

[00:08:40] It's right in the middle of it.

[00:08:42] Took the family up.

[00:08:44] We were in the first eclipse.

[00:08:46] We all just hung out with some friends.

[00:08:48] It's cool.

[00:08:50] You must have got a better view than we did.

[00:08:52] I think we got...

[00:08:54] You were in the middle more, right?

[00:08:56] It was 100%. Not as long as I thought it was going to be.

[00:08:58] But it was really cool.

[00:09:00] It got quiet.

[00:09:02] The only thing we heard was the kids like,

[00:09:04] wow!

[00:09:06] Yeah, yeah. Cold too though.

[00:09:08] We went to Percy's Peaks.

[00:09:10] We could see Percy's Peaks from Christine Lake.

[00:09:12] North Percy, what direction do you look to see the lake?

[00:09:14] South?

[00:09:16] South. That would be correct.

[00:09:18] We have to go a little further north but not far.

[00:09:20] It's like the Nash Stream area.

[00:09:22] Yeah, yeah, exactly.

[00:09:24] I thought that that area would be really cool for that.

[00:09:26] Yeah, quiet out there man.

[00:09:28] I love for sure.

[00:09:30] Really a room up place. A lot of people don't even know about it.

[00:09:32] Alright, so...

[00:09:34] Dave, were you in the totality?

[00:09:36] Yes.

[00:09:38] This place was? The Christine Lake?

[00:09:40] You left early, right Eric?

[00:09:42] Super early.

[00:09:44] We went to Chris's house at 7 o'clock in the morning

[00:09:46] and we were there by like 8.30.

[00:09:48] We picked up Bob and

[00:09:50] we just wanted to get there early.

[00:09:52] Have some coffees and hang out just in case.

[00:09:54] Luckily we did because there was almost no parking

[00:09:56] an hour later. That was it. It was already packed.

[00:09:58] I've never seen anything like it.

[00:10:00] No. We got home. It took us 3.30 to get home.

[00:10:02] And then Bob left at 2.30 in the morning

[00:10:04] to go to work back in Massachusetts.

[00:10:06] He goes, you wouldn't believe this

[00:10:08] Bob's got a truck traffic on the Frankone

[00:10:10] and he sent me a picture.

[00:10:12] Miles of cars.

[00:10:14] It was incredible.

[00:10:16] Usually it's about a little over 2 hours

[00:10:18] from the cabin back home.

[00:10:20] My son went down 93 and I'm like,

[00:10:22] I'm going to cut through.

[00:10:24] I did the dad thing. I know how to get to 91.

[00:10:26] They directed me right downtown St. John'sbury

[00:10:28] and I lived there for an hour.

[00:10:30] And I was like, this did not work.

[00:10:32] He beat us home by over an hour and a half.

[00:10:34] We went through Frankone

[00:10:36] and then we took a left and then we went by the hostel.

[00:10:38] And it was still backed up.

[00:10:40] It was everywhere.

[00:10:42] You went 93, 91, 89

[00:10:44] It was nuts.

[00:10:46] My day started at Med River Coffee

[00:10:48] at like 8.30

[00:10:50] Met Mike Latavaya

[00:10:52] Latavaya, another hiker, local guy

[00:10:54] he's a listener

[00:10:56] We chatted for a bit and then I left.

[00:10:58] That place was mobbed.

[00:11:00] It was absolutely mobbed

[00:11:02] and driving north to Lincoln

[00:11:04] because I go up over Lost River to get to North Havel

[00:11:06] for PT

[00:11:08] I was flowing with traffic

[00:11:10] just moving

[00:11:12] but on the way back I got out early

[00:11:14] and I could not believe

[00:11:16] the amount of cars coming up Lost River

[00:11:18] I don't even know where they were going

[00:11:20] Where were they going?

[00:11:22] They were finding any open spot over water

[00:11:24] cause when I left

[00:11:26] I was doing the same thing

[00:11:28] going along like suckers

[00:11:30] and then I was in it like

[00:11:32] Serious. Yeah, by the time I got out back to 93

[00:11:34] It was backed out to

[00:11:36] from Lincoln

[00:11:38] I mean the notch, forget the notch

[00:11:40] it backed down all the way to like

[00:11:42] exit 30, exit 29

[00:11:44] Just stand still

[00:11:46] I did the Franconi Ridge today

[00:11:48] but I also did it Sunday with a friend

[00:11:50] and Sunday

[00:11:52] when you go home

[00:11:54] you have to go up north a little bit

[00:11:56] turn around to the tramway

[00:11:58] You never see anybody going north

[00:12:01] I'm like you're gonna be kidding me

[00:12:03] I will say for the amount of mass plates

[00:12:05] there weren't that many dicks on the road

[00:12:07] I was stunned

[00:12:09] everybody was like

[00:12:11] I buried my past

[00:12:13] but yeah I was there two for a while

[00:12:15] but nobody was weaving it out

[00:12:17] people let me go

[00:12:19] I was like I'm confused maybe it is the apocalypse

[00:12:21] it's a sign people were being nice

[00:12:23] they had mass plates, they let me in

[00:12:25] I was like I don't understand

[00:12:27] We usually run you over

[00:12:29] but bandwidth too

[00:12:31] I was trying to post some stuff on the way back

[00:12:33] and there was just like no service

[00:12:35] so many people were using the local service

[00:12:37] for the internet and whatever

[00:12:39] I would love to see Google Maps

[00:12:41] like trajectory or usage

[00:12:43] as soon as it was over

[00:12:45] everybody trying to find a back road

[00:12:47] everybody was doing the same thing

[00:12:49] turn left, turn right

[00:12:51] you can see everybody late

[00:12:53] I did hear rumors that it took some people

[00:12:55] 12 hours to get from Lancaster down to Nashua

[00:12:57] wow

[00:12:59] some people were coming in at like 4 in the morning

[00:13:01] I'm in that area

[00:13:03] we left 430 and got home at 9

[00:13:05] really?

[00:13:07] well Lynn was supposed to go home

[00:13:09] she ended up sleeping over

[00:13:11] you can't go home right now

[00:13:13] it's kind of like the AT bubble

[00:13:15] if you were ahead of it, you got through

[00:13:17] if you were in the bubble, you were in the bubble

[00:13:19] we would have got through

[00:13:21] and you just suffered along with everyone

[00:13:23] that's a wild

[00:13:25] temperature change

[00:13:27] I'd noticed that too

[00:13:29] it was stunning

[00:13:31] so I was just right out here in front of the studio

[00:13:33] sitting on these awesome chairs

[00:13:35] you guys are in now

[00:13:37] they still smell like the eclipse

[00:13:39] I know, it's just like

[00:13:41] ah yeah

[00:13:43] you notice I gave you the better one though

[00:13:45] it's a little more cozy

[00:13:47] only the best for guests here

[00:13:49] both our legs are dangling

[00:13:51] we got a little height problem

[00:13:53] funny chairs here

[00:13:55] if you haven't noticed, we're renovating a whole bunch of stuff

[00:13:57] so I ended up

[00:13:59] tossing some chairs I needed

[00:14:01] are you a psychiatrist or sugar?

[00:14:03] what do you have the bed there for

[00:14:05] should I lay down and tell you my problems?

[00:14:07] I started when I was 6

[00:14:09] you want me to say my health

[00:14:11] and it hasn't stopped

[00:14:13] that's quite the quilt isn't it

[00:14:15] I was late, I was home crying by myself

[00:14:17] now I can lay down

[00:14:19] on the couch over here

[00:14:21] oh man, that might take too long

[00:14:23] we only have 2 hours

[00:14:25] the other thing I noticed

[00:14:27] after the fact was

[00:14:29] all the animals were quiet

[00:14:31] did you guys notice that?

[00:14:33] everything, it was crazy

[00:14:35] absolute silence

[00:14:37] did you even Chris pointed this out

[00:14:39] the second the sun popped back out

[00:14:41] everything was bright

[00:14:43] immediately

[00:14:45] you could hear them settle down at night

[00:14:47] and then that first bird you're here in the morning

[00:14:49] came up and he's going to be screwed up in 3 hours

[00:14:51] she's going to be like what?

[00:14:53] all the plants are going to die again

[00:14:55] so it's going to be tough

[00:14:57] I was listening

[00:14:59] what the hell is that

[00:15:01] hold on a sec

[00:15:03] is it built in karaoke?

[00:15:07] that was the hiking buddies thing

[00:15:09] this is the British guy now

[00:15:11] see I'm a swizer

[00:15:13] like a Swifty

[00:15:15] like a Sweezy

[00:15:17] I've seen the bumper before right?

[00:15:19] cause I was a Sweezy

[00:15:21] I liked her when she did the

[00:15:23] remember Lynn was doing the hiking buddies

[00:15:25] ad on this thing

[00:15:27] she was doing the tips

[00:15:29] we'd candor, yeah she's fired

[00:15:31] I'm a Sweezy

[00:15:33] I don't know

[00:15:35] I liked her better than the British guy

[00:15:37] no offense British guy

[00:15:39] it would grow on you

[00:15:41] so Andy Barlow

[00:15:43] he's awesome

[00:15:45] it's a fun session actually

[00:15:47] he came over and laid down a bunch of that stuff

[00:15:49] we were laughing for a while

[00:15:51] I see him on the trails once in a while

[00:15:53] absolute gentleman

[00:15:55] sorry about that

[00:15:57] what you're looking at behind me here

[00:15:59] is the monitor and all the tracks

[00:16:01] I use for the podcast

[00:16:03] I forgot to shut one off

[00:16:05] but anyway

[00:16:07] before that thing chimed in

[00:16:09] I saw this story today

[00:16:11] you guys are going to love this

[00:16:13] this is a post

[00:16:15] eclipse

[00:16:17] faux pas

[00:16:19] so a Mexican

[00:16:21] station

[00:16:23] it's a new station

[00:16:25] they were trying to ear a video of the eclipse

[00:16:29] and by accident they ear

[00:16:31] a video of

[00:16:33] some pair of testicles

[00:16:35] instead of the eclipse

[00:16:37] I swear to god this is on

[00:16:39] TMZ

[00:16:41] it's a

[00:16:43] to Sclips Day

[00:16:47] great ball in the sky

[00:16:49] now we got to find out

[00:16:51] I couldn't believe it

[00:16:53] so yeah that happened

[00:16:55] that's a pretty big mistake

[00:16:57] so seconds later the testes dropped into frame

[00:16:59] blocking the light

[00:17:01] giving audiences a brief but very up close

[00:17:03] look at someone's family jewels

[00:17:05] so you can see the visible shock

[00:17:07] on the faces of two of the anchors

[00:17:09] and everybody at once turned their heads in cough

[00:17:11] right

[00:17:17] so what's next on the apocalypse thing

[00:17:19] here

[00:17:21] I read that this spring

[00:17:23] and summer were going to be hit by a trillion

[00:17:25] cacadas you know those bugs

[00:17:27] those beetles that come out every several years

[00:17:29] cacadas

[00:17:31] are they cicadas?

[00:17:33] did you hear the story?

[00:17:35] no

[00:17:38] there are several

[00:17:40] from what I understand that

[00:17:42] unfortunately this year

[00:17:44] all of these several species are lining up

[00:17:46] to come out at the same time

[00:17:48] so the midwest

[00:17:50] upper midwest are going to have a trillion

[00:17:52] of these things roaming around

[00:17:54] isn't that wild?

[00:17:56] is it like a bugs life?

[00:17:58] did they figure out this more of them?

[00:18:00] if the murder hornets came out

[00:18:02] and they thought

[00:18:04] remember that the murder hornets

[00:18:06] scared

[00:18:08] so if there's a southern

[00:18:10] down where there's testicles in the sky

[00:18:12] not up here

[00:18:14] literally

[00:18:16] I don't know

[00:18:18] but yeah that's coming up next

[00:18:20] is this a podcast or a comedy show?

[00:18:22] it's tough without the laugh track

[00:18:24] I don't know if we're killing it

[00:18:26] or if everyone's going to be at 3 minute

[00:18:28] and everyone's like next week

[00:18:30] when's Mike coming back?

[00:18:32] Mike, hey, Mike

[00:18:34] we're flying Boeing

[00:18:36] let's see what happens

[00:18:38] you guys can get a job with me here

[00:18:40] so yeah, what's next on the play calendar

[00:18:42] this is the end of the world or what

[00:18:44] so we've got some bugs

[00:18:46] we've got the apocalypse

[00:18:48] whatever

[00:18:50] and then of course there's the modern art update

[00:18:52] did you have you been following this?

[00:18:54] no

[00:18:56] we talked about this last week

[00:18:58] there's a state park in Arkansas

[00:19:00] that's putting up modern art

[00:19:02] tall blobs

[00:19:04] blue green blobs

[00:19:06] and the hikers are in

[00:19:08] uproar

[00:19:10] they want these things gone

[00:19:12] and there's a petition now that's up to say

[00:19:14] like 3,000-4,000 people

[00:19:16] that signed it that want to get rid of these things

[00:19:18] I put a poll up saying

[00:19:20] we should purchase one of these things

[00:19:22] and see if we can put it somewhere

[00:19:24] put it on my washing, there's plenty of stuff up there

[00:19:26] right next to the...

[00:19:28] it was fight over who owns it

[00:19:30] I was thinking right on the

[00:19:32] the Bondcliffe perch

[00:19:34] that's perfect, people would dig it

[00:19:36] nobody complains about anything anyway

[00:19:38] so dude, I put this up on

[00:19:40] the slasher instagram

[00:19:42] and one listener said

[00:19:44] put it in Eric Todd's cabin

[00:19:46] well it fit

[00:19:48] I doubt it, maybe outside

[00:19:50] but outside it'd be an ornament

[00:19:52] throw some Christmas lights around

[00:19:54] I was thinking we get in touch with Larry the log

[00:19:56] and maybe even Carrie, it'd be Larry the blob

[00:19:58] he just carries that thing everywhere

[00:20:00] and I don't know

[00:20:02] or you could just move it to a summit of month

[00:20:04] we have to go find it

[00:20:06] you get a punch card, kind of like

[00:20:08] you're in his village or you find all the elves

[00:20:10] you get like a free coffee at Man River

[00:20:12] or you find it before anything else

[00:20:14] that's what I'm thinking, you got a special hat

[00:20:16] or we just put it in the back of your truck

[00:20:18] and you just tulle around with it

[00:20:20] so you know what you and I would go by

[00:20:22] I know that guy

[00:20:24] as if the truck isn't obvious enough

[00:20:26] we saw the plate and we were trying to get you to come out

[00:20:28] we were going to Hitchcock

[00:20:30] that's funny

[00:20:32] so anyway that's going on

[00:20:34] oh yeah here's another one, how about Hooks it

[00:20:36] Hooks it rest stop, Mike would love that

[00:20:38] that'd be perfect

[00:20:40] which side though

[00:20:42] probably northbound

[00:20:44] you know how busy that place must have been yesterday

[00:20:46] oh my god, yeah

[00:20:48] just the liquor sales, the gas sales

[00:20:50] huge

[00:20:52] I just felt the worst thing

[00:20:54] the hysteria is up the audience

[00:20:56] the abuse they must have seen in the last 24 hours

[00:20:58] for real

[00:21:00] unbelievable

[00:21:02] well there were no rescues or anything like that

[00:21:04] no, nothing happened

[00:21:06] amazing, especially with the snow

[00:21:08] I get the impression that

[00:21:10] the concern of people hiking

[00:21:12] to try to see it

[00:21:14] was probably diminished

[00:21:16] it just seemed like they stayed in their cars

[00:21:18] it's because of the conditions

[00:21:20] it's horrifying

[00:21:22] I don't know if the people would have been busier

[00:21:24] with the towing out of the mud

[00:21:26] I didn't see anything

[00:21:28] literally just a bunch of cars

[00:21:30] saw a ton on the highway

[00:21:32] but statistically that's going to happen

[00:21:34] because you have that many people moving

[00:21:36] we did see a lot of cars pulled over to take a leak

[00:21:38] I did see a guy vomit

[00:21:40] that was the highlight

[00:21:42] that's excitement

[00:21:44] and we brought the show down enough yet

[00:21:46] are we going to keep going?

[00:21:48] we're going to bury this

[00:21:50] are you guys familiar with geocaching?

[00:21:52] yes

[00:21:54] what's your understanding of it?

[00:21:56] you download a map on your phone

[00:21:58] and then you go out

[00:22:00] and find a prize

[00:22:02] and there's a little trinket

[00:22:04] so it's pretty cool

[00:22:06] I did it years ago

[00:22:08] take something, leave something

[00:22:10] the reason I bring it up

[00:22:12] is when I hiked car mountain from the north

[00:22:14] halfway up

[00:22:16] it was literally

[00:22:18] the hood of 1930's

[00:22:20] 1940's auto

[00:22:22] mobile

[00:22:24] and I'm walking up to this thing

[00:22:26] what the hell is this thing

[00:22:28] it was literally a hood

[00:22:30] but it was standing upright

[00:22:32] I forget what color, maybe purple

[00:22:34] at first I was thinking it was one of these modern art pieces

[00:22:36] but then on the back of it

[00:22:38] it was a black box

[00:22:40] like 2 inches by 3 inches

[00:22:42] and it said official geocache

[00:22:44] so it was

[00:22:46] I've seen the box before

[00:22:48] it's like an artillery box

[00:22:50] or a pillbox

[00:22:52] there's a stamp in there

[00:22:54] you can stamp your thing

[00:22:56] you have a little geocache in book

[00:22:58] that you said hey I was here

[00:23:00] like a passport

[00:23:02] it's actually fun to get you out

[00:23:04] my dad didn't know it

[00:23:06] he's a geocache machine

[00:23:08] geocache

[00:23:10] after seeing that thing

[00:23:12] I was curious about it

[00:23:14] the episode

[00:23:16] we've talked about this way way way back

[00:23:18] in the past

[00:23:20] and the question is

[00:23:22] where is it allowed

[00:23:24] so

[00:23:26] the idea of a geocache

[00:23:28] or trinkets in the woods

[00:23:30] goes against leave no trace

[00:23:32] what's the deal with that

[00:23:34] I don't think there's any

[00:23:36] I found them everywhere

[00:23:38] I guess you cannot do it

[00:23:40] in the wilderness zones

[00:23:43] according to the white mountain

[00:23:45] actually some of them

[00:23:47] are hard to find

[00:23:49] they'll be buried under rocks

[00:23:51] roots and stumps

[00:23:53] I've seen them

[00:23:55] even a few years ago

[00:23:57] with the pair of stairs

[00:23:59] Madame Cherries Forest

[00:24:01] we went out there

[00:24:03] and did geocache

[00:24:05] Dave, are you familiar

[00:24:07] with locations of these things

[00:24:09] not up north

[00:24:11] the mall walkers

[00:24:13] shall we say

[00:24:15] outdoor mall walkers

[00:24:17] you're not going to put them on elevation

[00:24:19] track suits and sketches

[00:24:21] I'm not watching it

[00:24:23] I would assume that a lot of these

[00:24:25] even in the white mountain national forest

[00:24:27] they would be more down low

[00:24:29] not big elevation

[00:24:31] would be my guess

[00:24:33] but I'm learning a lot today

[00:24:35] I don't know

[00:24:37] I've definitely found some in the white mountain national forest

[00:24:39] Mr. Stomp and I found one

[00:24:41] at the beginning of the east pond loop

[00:24:43] when you're heading up

[00:24:45] maybe like a tenth of a mile

[00:24:47] there's the junction

[00:24:49] you can go left

[00:24:51] to Little East Pond

[00:24:53] or straight up towards the larger east pond

[00:24:55] to the right

[00:24:57] there's an old ancient 1800s foundation

[00:24:59] and there was one in there

[00:25:01] that was the old mill

[00:25:03] is that the history there

[00:25:05] let's dive

[00:25:07] that's what they used to do

[00:25:09] they scraped the east pond

[00:25:11] they used to scrape the history lesson

[00:25:13] they scraped

[00:25:15] I found it last time

[00:25:17] when I was doing middle scour

[00:25:19] they used to scape

[00:25:21] there was a guy who was a lumber baron

[00:25:23] it was his son that wound up setting up

[00:25:25] the mill

[00:25:27] and they used to scrape east pond

[00:25:29] for the algae on the bottom

[00:25:31] and it had the diatomaceous earth

[00:25:33] and they would break it down

[00:25:35] and a lot of people assumed he was using it

[00:25:37] to make better paper products

[00:25:39] and he ran it for about two years

[00:25:41] never made any money

[00:25:43] no one could understand why he kept doing it

[00:25:45] but he had this massive mill

[00:25:47] and if you follow it the pipes go up to east pond

[00:25:49] and they would drain

[00:25:51] but they would scrape it and run it down

[00:25:53] filter it through

[00:25:55] get that down, break it down

[00:25:57] and they believed he was using it for the paper

[00:25:59] but he never made any money

[00:26:01] and then it just kind of went bankrupt

[00:26:03] I had no idea

[00:26:05] because I went out to 118 the other day

[00:26:07] with a friend of mine

[00:26:09] and we checked out some of the old CCC camps

[00:26:11] oh wow

[00:26:13] I'm not familiar with that

[00:26:15] CCC

[00:26:17] my grandfather used to come here

[00:26:19] and do it years ago

[00:26:21] it was during the depression

[00:26:23] when they would actually the government

[00:26:25] to put people to work

[00:26:27] and to help them along

[00:26:29] they would have these different projects

[00:26:31] actually there's an old chimney back there

[00:26:33] there's a couple of them

[00:26:35] there's an old car buried in the mud

[00:26:37] that's pretty neat

[00:26:39] like camp 24

[00:26:41] if you ever go to the Hancocks

[00:26:43] stay on your Cedar Brook Trail

[00:26:45] because you can pop out on the east side

[00:26:47] of the way you call Lincoln Woods

[00:26:49] but before you take that left

[00:26:51] it's called camp 24

[00:26:53] you can see remnants of an old logging camp back there

[00:26:55] still, wood stoves and all kind of metal pots

[00:26:57] stuff is all over the place

[00:26:59] the whole Tripoli area to the Livermore

[00:27:01] the town of Livermore

[00:27:03] is down there with the Gris Mill

[00:27:05] all that stuff is down there

[00:27:07] you can follow those carriage roads

[00:27:09] all the way into Woodstock

[00:27:11] incredible

[00:27:13] so there we go

[00:27:15] some leave no trace tension there

[00:27:17] but it exists

[00:27:19] what I was saying is

[00:27:21] what is the 500 highest

[00:27:23] is really just geocaching at a high level

[00:27:25] because it runs chasing those canisters

[00:27:27] it's geocaching at a higher level

[00:27:29] I thought the same as well

[00:27:31] but

[00:27:33] for what purpose too

[00:27:35] you're literally logging the date in your name

[00:27:37] it's sort of funny

[00:27:39] I'm such a canister whore though

[00:27:41] I gotta find them

[00:27:43] did you find the one on Whitewall slide

[00:27:45] that's a hard one

[00:27:47] and trying to get back to find the slide

[00:27:49] was not easy

[00:27:51] I'm gonna do that one and then come out on the fire road

[00:27:53] there's a secret fire road

[00:27:55] yeah

[00:27:57] if you park at

[00:27:59] what's a Zealand

[00:28:01] that's what we did

[00:28:03] I just popped the broken fall of the fire road

[00:28:05] you can kind of bushwhack through the birch glades

[00:28:07] we just went right on Ethan Pond trail

[00:28:09] took a left and went right up the slide

[00:28:11] and then came back down

[00:28:13] and then went up a Zealand trail

[00:28:15] which goes straight up

[00:28:17] and then you hit Z-Cliff

[00:28:19] and then you go back out

[00:28:21] it's like a loop so you can go from

[00:28:23] I don't know if you knew that

[00:28:25] Z-Cliff is very steep

[00:28:27] and you got to cross the river

[00:28:29] that's a cool trail man

[00:28:31] it's a quick drop

[00:28:33] don't go in the rain

[00:28:35] that was so horrible

[00:28:37] coming down Z-Cliff

[00:28:39] in the rain

[00:28:41] it was like April

[00:28:43] we had to take our shoes off

[00:28:45] and roll our pants up

[00:28:47] talk about instant numb feet

[00:28:49] and legs

[00:28:51] it was horrible

[00:28:53] we were going to go to the whitewall slide

[00:28:55] we just took a left and went back on Ethan Pond trail

[00:28:57] and you end up back all the way

[00:28:59] it's just a big loop

[00:29:01] it's wild

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[00:30:40] we all know that hiking a mountain

[00:30:42] can be hard at times

[00:30:44] so here's a corny dad joke

[00:30:46] to help you get over it

[00:30:48] but um-bum

[00:30:50] alright well moving on I guess

[00:30:52] I got a couple dad jokes

[00:30:54] I know Mike usually does dad jokes

[00:30:56] but

[00:30:58] I sort of doled these out

[00:31:00] to both you guys but

[00:31:02] I don't know

[00:31:04] I can do them if you guys don't have access to them

[00:31:06] I'm ready

[00:31:08] you're ready?

[00:31:10] so this is

[00:31:12] the Eclipse edition of the dad jokes section

[00:31:14] so here's the first one

[00:31:16] why should students

[00:31:18] not get out of class to see the eclipse

[00:31:20] I don't know

[00:31:22] they need to protect their pupils

[00:31:24] oh

[00:31:26] wow that's a dad joke

[00:31:28] that is a dad joke

[00:31:30] that's a testicle in the sky

[00:31:32] yeah that's a bad show

[00:31:34] low hanging fruit

[00:31:36] see it

[00:31:38] depends on the weather

[00:31:40] you made any things

[00:31:42] I tried to look at the eclipse

[00:31:44] through a colander

[00:31:46] but it only strained my eyes

[00:31:48] oh see

[00:31:50] I killed it

[00:31:52] I like that one

[00:31:54] I wish I wrote it myself

[00:31:56] can you see that?

[00:31:58] where is it here?

[00:32:00] oh it's right here

[00:32:02] you see that

[00:32:04] with all the parental damage phone

[00:32:06] someone made an online resource

[00:32:08] sore eyes

[00:32:10] that is so lame

[00:32:12] yeah there you go

[00:32:14] that's the epitome of a dad joke

[00:32:16] so those are going out to

[00:32:18] Mike wherever you are

[00:32:20] alright cool dad jokes are over

[00:32:28] hey what's that sound?

[00:32:30] it must be time for the pop culture segment

[00:32:32] with Mike and Stomp

[00:32:38] anything good to happen with pop culture?

[00:32:40] I had listed

[00:32:42] this game that I really don't want to talk about

[00:32:44] but I'll provide the link

[00:32:46] it's called Summit the Board Game

[00:32:48] it's actually like a

[00:32:50] Dungeons and Dragons type of role playing game

[00:32:52] but it's all mountaineering

[00:32:54] and climbing

[00:32:56] and it's as in depth

[00:32:58] and intense as like

[00:33:00] Dungeons and Dragons it's insane

[00:33:02] but I really can't do it justice

[00:33:04] so I'll just give you the link there

[00:33:06] uh

[00:33:08] Mrs Stomp is chomping at the bit

[00:33:10] tonight is what? Tuesday?

[00:33:12] yeah tonight's Tuesday

[00:33:14] recording this early this week

[00:33:16] and she's waiting for 6.30

[00:33:18] they're releasing the new Joker

[00:33:20] trailer for the Joker part 2

[00:33:22] with Lady Gaga and Joaquin Phoenix

[00:33:24] so that should be pretty wild

[00:33:26] I like him

[00:33:28] the first one is great

[00:33:30] that dude is going to ask man I like him

[00:33:32] he's done a lot of different

[00:33:34] he kills it he's good

[00:33:36] yeah he's really good

[00:33:38] so that's coming out soon

[00:33:40] and I don't know you guys what been watching

[00:33:42] anything Eric you've been out hiking

[00:33:44] you don't have time for it

[00:33:46] no I do at night though I chill at night

[00:33:48] I love Kirby enthusiasm

[00:33:50] oh you've been watching

[00:33:52] I'm a sign fold guy so I've been watching

[00:33:54] yeah yeah

[00:33:56] I've not seen that yet

[00:33:58] and of course I've already seen Game of Thrones

[00:34:00] everybody's seen that

[00:34:02] you see the new series the House of Dragons

[00:34:04] I haven't but actually Chris said

[00:34:06] for me to watch that he said it was pretty good

[00:34:08] him and Tracy have been watching that

[00:34:10] Game of Thrones?

[00:34:12] you gotta give it a little bit

[00:34:14] you get hooked

[00:34:16] just literally yesterday Eric

[00:34:18] I was watching Hardhome and Battle of the Basterds

[00:34:20] remember those two episodes

[00:34:22] where there's just huge battles

[00:34:24] with the White Walkers

[00:34:26] oh I know Arya Stark

[00:34:28] do you remember that one episode

[00:34:30] that I forget the guy's name

[00:34:32] Ramsey Bolton

[00:34:34] Ramsey, he is a yes

[00:34:36] I've seen him now I don't have to watch it

[00:34:38] yeah it's all good

[00:34:40] just take the mic off go home

[00:34:42] you're all set

[00:34:44] nice meeting you Dave

[00:34:46] so yeah that's it man

[00:34:48] I just finished Dark a little while ago

[00:34:50] I think it was the German

[00:34:52] sci-fi thing

[00:34:54] about time travel

[00:34:56] really?

[00:34:58] yeah it's basically like they find these

[00:35:00] bodies and then

[00:35:02] it builds around that

[00:35:04] and it's like this whole

[00:35:06] group of people that interact

[00:35:08] it's hard not to give it away

[00:35:10] through the explanation

[00:35:12] we already screwed it up for you

[00:35:14] there's no dogs in this one

[00:35:16] so in the end

[00:35:18] what happened

[00:35:20] it's really cool

[00:35:22] I don't even know how to explain it

[00:35:24] watch the first four or five episodes

[00:35:26] oh okay yeah I think it was going the next

[00:35:28] towards you like no

[00:35:30] wait how? what?

[00:35:32] and then at the end of your mind it's just

[00:35:34] it's really good for days you're walking

[00:35:36] around like six miles off trail

[00:35:38] crap you're thinking about it

[00:35:40] and you just keep walking

[00:35:42] oh wait where am I

[00:35:44] it's one of those

[00:35:46] I really enjoy it

[00:35:50] are you ready for Slasher's

[00:35:52] ear review

[00:35:56] that's cool

[00:35:58] hey

[00:36:00] I have a couple gear

[00:36:02] things that I found

[00:36:04] just the other day

[00:36:06] I was down at Eddie Bauer

[00:36:08] down at Tilton

[00:36:10] and this is

[00:36:12] I saw this on one of the racks actually

[00:36:14] looks like a handwoman

[00:36:16] check this out it's a

[00:36:18] rechargeable dual arc

[00:36:20] lighter with a cob light

[00:36:22] so the light there is the yellowish part

[00:36:25] if you look at the very top here

[00:36:27] it's a dual arc so it's electric

[00:36:29] it's an arc of electricity

[00:36:31] yeah

[00:36:33] like a taser

[00:36:35] pretty much

[00:36:37] low power

[00:36:39] I'm thinking it's a terrible idea to have my pocket

[00:36:41] I called 911 today

[00:36:43] I'm not kidding

[00:36:45] hello what's your emergency I'm like

[00:36:47] I don't know man

[00:36:49] why am I testicles talking to me

[00:36:51] it's a theme tonight everyone

[00:36:53] he's just talking about testicles

[00:36:55] no it's like

[00:36:57] no emergency it's a part

[00:36:59] I don't need to be down and out

[00:37:01] could you imagine zapping your testicles

[00:37:03] whole brush fire

[00:37:05] so the rated current is 300mA

[00:37:07] the light is

[00:37:09] 140 lumens which is not too bad

[00:37:11] and it's USB

[00:37:13] chargeable

[00:37:15] so it's a convenient on-the-go essential for night

[00:37:17] spent around the campfire

[00:37:19] I think it's pretty cool

[00:37:21] better than matches that's for sure

[00:37:23] yeah

[00:37:25] so I saw that and then I saw this one

[00:37:27] you guys might get a kick out of this

[00:37:29] second one it's called skunky wipes

[00:37:31] I could imagine what that's for

[00:37:33] so it might be a good thing for backpackers

[00:37:35] and through hikers let me open it up here for us

[00:37:37] I'm as scared as I am curious

[00:37:39] yeah me too

[00:37:41] skunky wipes

[00:37:43] yeah and I defends which end

[00:37:45] skunky

[00:37:47] skunky wipes

[00:37:49] there we go

[00:37:51] disposable rinse free bathing sponge wipes

[00:37:53] bathing sponge wipes

[00:37:55] so it just add water

[00:37:57] it lathers up

[00:37:59] and then you scrub and dry with no sticky residue

[00:38:01] cleans without a shower

[00:38:03] just add water

[00:38:05] lather scrubs and dry

[00:38:07] so it's like it's literally like

[00:38:09] just a little clean wipe

[00:38:11] you know what I like about it it's light

[00:38:13] because it probably weighs nothing

[00:38:15] it's no water so you can backpack it

[00:38:17] disposable is a good call I don't know how you'd reuse it

[00:38:19] well don't carry it and jump on the river

[00:38:21] bring some soap and do the same thing

[00:38:23] I like the different categories they list too

[00:38:25] it's got so much gym

[00:38:27] so check it out smell funky get skunky

[00:38:29] 60 second shower just add water

[00:38:31] rinse free bath sponges

[00:38:33] so yeah there we go

[00:38:35] this is gym elder care

[00:38:37] kids and more

[00:38:39] what's the more

[00:38:41] that's what's got me

[00:38:43] it's a product so you know they want to

[00:38:45] put as much crap as they can on the sticker to catch your eye

[00:38:47] what else you gotta say

[00:38:49] your car maybe

[00:38:51] I don't want to know

[00:38:53] nope we're gonna stop right there

[00:38:55] alright you guys mind if I do an advertiser here

[00:38:59] I gotta blast through these so

[00:39:01] alright first one

[00:39:03] actually you guys might want to comment on this

[00:39:05] so we do have the 48 peaks

[00:39:07] folks coming in a little later

[00:39:09] for a quick little interview but

[00:39:11] 48 peaks Alzheimer's use your passion

[00:39:13] for hiking to help end Alzheimer's

[00:39:15] in one collective effort

[00:39:17] 400 plus hikers will climb

[00:39:19] New Hampshire's 4000 footers

[00:39:21] or create their own challenge to support the mission of the

[00:39:23] Alzheimer's Association

[00:39:25] the annual hiker celebration will take place

[00:39:27] Saturday June 8th at Reckless

[00:39:29] Brewing Company

[00:39:31] in Bethlehem with raffles

[00:39:33] food and an amazing community

[00:39:35] like that weekend or any day you want

[00:39:37] no fundraising minimum is required

[00:39:39] but those who raise $100

[00:39:41] will receive this year's performance grade

[00:39:43] purple t-shirt

[00:39:45] so let's turn the white mountains purple to end

[00:39:47] Alzheimer's visit

[00:39:49] alts.org

[00:39:51] right slash 48 peaks

[00:39:53] to learn more

[00:39:55] you guys joining this uh

[00:39:57] I'm actually on linds team really yeah alright cool

[00:39:59] you guys have a picoals kicked out

[00:40:01] I don't know not sure yet she'll tell me

[00:40:03] she'll tell me

[00:40:05] just wherever you want me you know me I don't

[00:40:07] just what do you want me to hike that's how I roll

[00:40:09] I never choose it

[00:40:11] I can invite

[00:40:13] cause you talk about testicles a lot

[00:40:15] who wants to hike with guys Dave shits in the woods

[00:40:17] but I got skunky wipes

[00:40:19] so

[00:40:21] you're allowed

[00:40:23] you're back in join our team

[00:40:25] I'll tell when

[00:40:27] that'd be cool

[00:40:29] he's okay he checks out

[00:40:31] you imagine you and I hiking together

[00:40:33] I can now

[00:40:35] I can imagine that

[00:40:37] like for real you know

[00:40:39] we could be more opposites in general but I think

[00:40:41] we'd kill it on the trailer off the trailer

[00:40:43] yeah I'm trying to

[00:40:45] draw a comparison with like a supergroup that would

[00:40:47] mm don't say millie millie

[00:40:49] now he's to you guys

[00:40:51] cause they didn't even sing

[00:40:53] we're real this is the real thing right here

[00:40:55] it could be the Crosby stills and no Nash

[00:40:57] and young

[00:40:59] yeah now he's out yeah he's done

[00:41:01] oh my god it's too funny

[00:41:03] alright so there you go you're invited

[00:41:05] I won't be doing anything that day

[00:41:07] I have to do the music at the event

[00:41:09] at reckless I'll have to catch up on the dates

[00:41:11] not yeah

[00:41:13] even if I just walk behind you guys

[00:41:15] I don't have to be in the group

[00:41:17] carry my backpack

[00:41:19] I'm gonna be busy shaking hands hand

[00:41:21] alright jump doing a headstand again

[00:41:23] I could be like his helper

[00:41:25] well let me make it last year should go hurt

[00:41:27] so I jumped in you know

[00:41:29] that's right yeah last year was a wild year

[00:41:31] yeah busy summer very whole brettan woods thing

[00:41:33] yeah that event there Emily yeah

[00:41:35] yeah yeah yeah yeah it was a lot

[00:41:37] wow show was

[00:41:39] alright well let's see what else we have

[00:41:41] so coffee donations you can donate to the podcast

[00:41:43] if you want to help us pay the bills

[00:41:45] we have a couple this week carry barrel

[00:41:47] donated three coffees

[00:41:49] and then Jen Kunze

[00:41:51] Kunze

[00:41:53] one of the other donated five coffees

[00:41:55] and this this person is going to be coming on

[00:41:57] one of the future episodes

[00:41:59] have you met her yeah

[00:42:02] okay so she's a chef

[00:42:04] in Antarctica Dave I don't know if you know this

[00:42:06] I'm just trying to get past who he doesn't know

[00:42:08] like we just

[00:42:10] see that squirrel out there I know him

[00:42:12] that's Rocky that's red over there

[00:42:14] that guy is red yeah he's got a nut allergy

[00:42:16] which is horrible you know

[00:42:18] for a squirrel but he

[00:42:20] he's a good guy yeah

[00:42:22] so how I want well we'll talk on our hike

[00:42:24] and we go on uh yeah yeah yeah

[00:42:26] so when she's out in Antarctica

[00:42:28] so she's a chef she cooks out there

[00:42:30] so maybe we can have her

[00:42:32] chat about that so cool thank you Jen

[00:42:34] and thank you Carrie it's super super cool

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[00:43:10] I knew we should have gone left back there

[00:43:12] stop don't worry

[00:43:14] I know it's this way I've got a feeling in my gut

[00:43:16] uh are you sure you're not about to have a bowel

[00:43:18] emergency

[00:43:20] uh totally we got this

[00:43:22] but I just blew out my hip

[00:43:24] fell down that gully with my 40 year old

[00:43:26] micro spikes suck it up stomp

[00:43:28] it's 4 p.m. we're at 3500 feet

[00:43:30] we got 9 miles back to the parking lot

[00:43:32] your leg may be broken

[00:43:34] we got no cell connection

[00:43:36] and we can't feel our fingers

[00:43:38] but we're finishing all of my list tonight

[00:43:40] by the way I need some water

[00:43:42] I'm empty I would

[00:43:44] if I could see what I'm doing

[00:43:46] but my headlamp batteries are dead

[00:43:48] you gotta be kidding me what a chump

[00:43:50] this is the last time I hike with you

[00:43:52] whatever mister

[00:43:54] do you know me I have a podcast

[00:43:56] whatever

[00:44:00] let's find out what Mike and Stomp

[00:44:02] have been hiking

[00:44:06] recent hikes

[00:44:08] anybody

[00:44:10] who's first Dave Eric

[00:44:12] I don't get out much

[00:44:14] actually why don't you talk about

[00:44:16] I just got back to us

[00:44:18] just up the road at cone mountain today

[00:44:20] so I was gonna do cone

[00:44:22] cone mountain so it goes

[00:44:24] I parked at the Welsh Dickie

[00:44:26] and then I just basically you instead of going up

[00:44:28] either trail you just stay on the bike path

[00:44:30] and then you hit the ledges and you kinda arque your way

[00:44:32] around the ledges

[00:44:34] split a couple ledges I didn't need to

[00:44:36] came back down followed that up and around

[00:44:38] big six foot Karen at the top

[00:44:40] gorgeous view

[00:44:42] really gorgeous view

[00:44:44] yeah it's an amazing have you hiked that one Eric

[00:44:46] I think on uh like he was saying

[00:44:48] I think I did that years ago with Steven Gwen

[00:44:50] oh probably yeah yeah yeah

[00:44:52] because we did bushwhack we even went to uh

[00:44:54] from Welsh Dickie

[00:44:56] is it uh hogback

[00:44:58] yes yeah off of

[00:45:00] you get to it from

[00:45:02] I don't remember it was so many years ago

[00:45:04] and actually we got to Tecumseh as well

[00:45:06] yeah grant a verse basically

[00:45:08] probably it probably was

[00:45:10] we were talking seven or eight years ago

[00:45:12] we used to do all those crazy things

[00:45:14] I gotta say that whole stretch from

[00:45:16] Tecumseh, Boss, Green Mountain

[00:45:18] all the way down to Welsh Dickie and then

[00:45:20] Hazleton Brook is just

[00:45:22] to the east

[00:45:24] there's so much in and around there it's unbelievable

[00:45:26] it's really untouched

[00:45:28] absolutely and true

[00:45:30] cause you don't see a lot of you won't see anybody out there

[00:45:32] you don't see anybody but Bear

[00:45:34] I was last time I was out there trying to do Hazleton

[00:45:36] funny oh yeah sorry

[00:45:38] sitting on the top of Cone

[00:45:40] by myself bushwhacked up

[00:45:42] because nobody goes up there

[00:45:44] not quite on the Cone

[00:45:46] I really like Dave

[00:45:48] better acoustics

[00:45:50] if you use a Cone

[00:45:52] so I'm sitting there and all of a sudden I hear

[00:45:54] great job buddy and I'm like that does not match up

[00:45:56] with my conscience that's not my conscious voice

[00:45:58] and he never calls me buddy so I'm like

[00:46:00] shit someone's up here

[00:46:02] I'm like who is up here and sure enough

[00:46:04] I could hear someone coming so I just yelled

[00:46:06] I'm like hey I'm up on the summit heads up

[00:46:08] and a guy came out we started talking

[00:46:10] and that and I was like I just wanted to give you a heads up

[00:46:12] cause when you're out bushwhacking

[00:46:14] those things are either you know finding somebody

[00:46:16] or being found

[00:46:18] you know

[00:46:20] so that threw me

[00:46:22] gorgeous area and then I was trying to go down to

[00:46:24] now I gotta look this up cause

[00:46:26] I'll say it wrong

[00:46:28] but there's another peak that's a little further

[00:46:30] out that I wanted to but I ran out of time

[00:46:32] what if it's the one I hit

[00:46:34] it was brown ash swamp

[00:46:36] brown swamp ass

[00:46:38] not swamp ass

[00:46:40] because that is actually on another hiking list

[00:46:42] from New Hampshire

[00:46:44] there is a new Hampshire hiking list

[00:46:46] it is the New Hampshire

[00:46:48] inappropriate 69

[00:46:50] and you may not have heard of it but it's names like that

[00:46:52] that are technically inappropriate

[00:46:54] I'm really surprised I haven't heard of that

[00:46:56] and it comes with a patch

[00:46:58] that a friend of mine, Nicole Wilson,

[00:47:00] she made the patch and everything

[00:47:02] and they are names that

[00:47:04] they can go in certain categories

[00:47:06] I gotta keep it clean cause I know there's a smaller person

[00:47:08] that hikes that's younger

[00:47:10] don't worry

[00:47:12] we already kind of

[00:47:14] the Mexican

[00:47:16] the Mexican Eclipse

[00:47:18] is that a testicle

[00:47:20] I don't know who I just said

[00:47:22] Mike's definitely fired me

[00:47:24] I'm history

[00:47:26] it would be good sailing equipment

[00:47:28] actually

[00:47:30] you and I have taken over

[00:47:32] we just gotta get rid of stump

[00:47:34] rented stiffy

[00:47:36] so it was gonna go down

[00:47:38] New Hampshire inappropriate 69

[00:47:40] it comes with a patch

[00:47:42] it is a legitimate hiking list

[00:47:44] yes it's funny

[00:47:46] running into a couple roadblocks

[00:47:48] with property

[00:47:50] some of the names people do

[00:47:52] but they are out there

[00:47:54] tumbled down dick

[00:47:56] Mount Tug

[00:47:58] oh dude that's hilarious

[00:48:00] there's a lot of them that are on there

[00:48:02] the Hancocks

[00:48:04] white faces

[00:48:07] the whole list is out there

[00:48:09] I don't want to go through the whole list

[00:48:11] there is an Instagram account

[00:48:13] the New Hampshire inappropriate 69

[00:48:15] the Facebook account you need to

[00:48:17] request permission

[00:48:19] because we don't want any creepers

[00:48:21] we just want hikers

[00:48:23] and it should be said that these are legitimate hikes

[00:48:25] there is

[00:48:27] a level of skill that is required

[00:48:29] so it is fun

[00:48:31] but there's a lot of very difficult mountains on this

[00:48:33] to hike

[00:48:35] if you are first you might get something special

[00:48:37] that's a great idea

[00:48:39] you don't want to finish too early

[00:48:41] that was good

[00:48:43] I'm just saying

[00:48:45] so whoever the first finisher is

[00:48:47] you got to have it in your shirt

[00:48:49] or whatever

[00:48:51] that's so cool

[00:48:53] alright well uh so you did cone

[00:48:55] yep

[00:48:57] last bushweck

[00:48:59] we did it from Smotsbrook

[00:49:01] it's called sacrum peak

[00:49:03] well that's up on the acting line

[00:49:05] that's what I was talking about earlier

[00:49:07] you can see it

[00:49:09] when you do the Jennings and noon sandwich dome peak

[00:49:11] it's either Jennings or

[00:49:13] noon that you're on

[00:49:15] and you look to your right

[00:49:17] and you're like what is that

[00:49:19] Jennings

[00:49:21] so we ended up going to Smotsbrook

[00:49:23] checking it out

[00:49:25] and it's beautiful

[00:49:27] no footprints

[00:49:29] that's my goal

[00:49:31] it is, it's beautiful

[00:49:33] and I think you can climb it too

[00:49:35] it looks like a climbing route

[00:49:37] remote broadcast

[00:49:39] remote broadcast

[00:49:41] right

[00:49:43] when you're coming down Smartsbrook

[00:49:45] from sandwich

[00:49:47] back to Smartsbrook trailhead

[00:49:49] you can get glimpses of the cliff wall

[00:49:51] you can

[00:49:53] you have to actually hike past it

[00:49:55] about almost half a mile

[00:49:57] to go around it

[00:49:59] we did it in the

[00:50:01] so we want to go back of course it was like

[00:50:03] beginning of snow season

[00:50:05] it reminds me of mount height

[00:50:07] but it's even tighter

[00:50:09] it's tighter

[00:50:11] 360

[00:50:13] I want to say it's the size of this room

[00:50:15] I swear to God

[00:50:17] there's a couple of little sections you can hang out

[00:50:19] and what I like about stuff like that

[00:50:21] like you were saying height you can't do this button

[00:50:23] this one

[00:50:25] I like the sections where you can throw a tent up there

[00:50:27] on the rocks on the summit

[00:50:29] but you got some woods behind that you can hang out

[00:50:31] you can even let a fire, not the can

[00:50:33] or what should be doing that

[00:50:35] with the new lighter

[00:50:37] and the new wipes

[00:50:39] bring the wipes

[00:50:41] smell great

[00:50:43] it's on

[00:50:45] you and I, what are we going to do

[00:50:47] we're going to skunk wipe

[00:50:49] get some fires going

[00:50:51] do some tick checking

[00:50:53] check for ticks

[00:50:55] come on

[00:50:57] what's going

[00:50:59] I'm not passing light petting with you Dave

[00:51:01] very light

[00:51:03] I can arrest the beard you got going on

[00:51:05] but I'm doing, I don't know what he's got in mind

[00:51:07] just enough so the eclipse is below

[00:51:09] above the horizon

[00:51:11] that the eclipse

[00:51:13] wow

[00:51:15] too funny

[00:51:17] alright so that's your homework Dave

[00:51:19] you gotta do that whole line

[00:51:21] just bag like bald mountain acty on

[00:51:23] there's like 50 bald mountains

[00:51:25] but yeah that's

[00:51:27] that's off of

[00:51:29] the kinsman trill

[00:51:31] that's another nice spot too

[00:51:33] that would have been cool for the eclipse

[00:51:35] absolutely

[00:51:37] when you get 90

[00:51:39] something percent that's the only thing

[00:51:41] you wouldn't see it in totality

[00:51:43] I start here

[00:51:45] it's probably like 90

[00:51:47] still pretty cool

[00:51:49] there's a ton of peaks in this area

[00:51:51] so you guys done car

[00:51:53] car mountain

[00:51:55] I don't think I've done that one yet

[00:51:57] is that out of 52?

[00:51:59] no definitely

[00:52:01] 3 ponds trailhead

[00:52:03] by rumney

[00:52:05] or from Ellsworth hill

[00:52:07] wow okay cool

[00:52:09] alright

[00:52:11] for the 500 you can get the kineos

[00:52:13] you can get

[00:52:15] two other peaks but car

[00:52:17] is a viewless summit

[00:52:19] it's a tower foundation at the top

[00:52:21] and it's like 3500 feet

[00:52:23] there's two ways to go about it

[00:52:25] so you can go from 3 ponds

[00:52:27] you guys gotta check out this whole area

[00:52:29] it's absolutely beautiful

[00:52:31] 2.5 miles from 3 ponds

[00:52:33] but there is this old almost deserted

[00:52:35] approach from the Warren side

[00:52:37] which is 3 miles

[00:52:39] and I got to do that

[00:52:41] Saturday or Sunday

[00:52:43] I don't even remember anymore

[00:52:45] but yeah snowshoes the whole way

[00:52:47] so you go to the fish stinson

[00:52:49] stinson around it

[00:52:51] past that

[00:52:53] so you've got rumney

[00:52:55] rocks that climb in place

[00:52:57] you've got that rattlesnake

[00:52:59] which you can climb

[00:53:01] and then further on

[00:53:03] you can take a right

[00:53:05] and get down to 3 ponds

[00:53:07] which is actually the same road that you would take the stinson

[00:53:09] so it's just a little further down

[00:53:11] it's a trailhead on the left

[00:53:13] yeah for sure

[00:53:15] so that's that area

[00:53:17] but for this other approach

[00:53:19] car mountain trail it's in Warren

[00:53:21] it's by the fishing game hatchery

[00:53:23] in Warren it's behind that

[00:53:25] and I'd heard rumors that it's like

[00:53:27] I don't know might as well be abandoned

[00:53:29] at this point

[00:53:31] it still has a white mountain as before

[00:53:33] a sign, car mountain trail

[00:53:35] lot of clear cutting like the first half mile

[00:53:37] so ended up

[00:53:39] making it maybe like

[00:53:41] 80% of the way up

[00:53:43] making trail the whole way up

[00:53:45] it's the northern side

[00:53:47] it was pretty wild like foot deep

[00:53:49] the whole way

[00:53:51] that's where the car hood is

[00:53:53] car hood and car mountain

[00:53:55] there you go maybe that's the whole shtick

[00:53:57] yeah

[00:53:59] check it out it was pretty cool

[00:54:01] but I need some love

[00:54:03] I'm shocked that it's still

[00:54:05] yeah, it's a good question

[00:54:07] you guys should do

[00:54:09] as for the podcast

[00:54:11] which is Dr. Trill

[00:54:13] Dave's can not me

[00:54:15] I'm too busy but Dave

[00:54:17] he's got the wipes

[00:54:19] if he gets swamped

[00:54:21] we're gonna rename it to the smell good trail

[00:54:25] yeah, I'll take it under consideration

[00:54:41] it's time for

[00:54:43] Slasher's

[00:54:45] guest of the week

[00:54:47] very cool

[00:54:49] very cool

[00:54:51] so let's

[00:54:53] start with you Eric

[00:54:55] just a little bit more about you

[00:54:57] and what you've been up to lately

[00:54:59] you've been on before

[00:55:01] yeah, that was awesome

[00:55:03] thanks for having me on

[00:55:05] yeah, you bet, thanks for coming over

[00:55:07] absolutely

[00:55:09] I live a long, you know, pretty far away

[00:55:11] yeah, what's been going on over the last

[00:55:13] several months

[00:55:15] nothing really

[00:55:17] just finishing up the cabin

[00:55:19] got the wood stove in

[00:55:21] as you all know I built a log cabin

[00:55:23] had it log cabin built in Thornton

[00:55:25] so now it's gonna be onto a landscape

[00:55:27] getting some trees

[00:55:29] and getting a driveway and things like that

[00:55:31] yeah, so you basically got it up

[00:55:33] and running in the fall before winter came in

[00:55:35] yeah, about October was finished

[00:55:37] so it's been a running hostel since then pretty much

[00:55:39] yeah

[00:55:41] that's cool

[00:55:43] that's been pretty awesome

[00:55:45] but besides that and hiking

[00:55:47] almost four or five, six days a week

[00:55:49] sometimes every day

[00:55:51] but nothing crazy, no goals

[00:55:53] the other thing I have been doing lately

[00:55:55] is going to the Adirondacks

[00:55:57] so I started out in those, those are nice

[00:55:59] real pretty and I've learned something

[00:56:01] like the trails there are broken out

[00:56:03] and you wear snowshoes

[00:56:05] a whole different ballgame up there

[00:56:07] what do you mean by that?

[00:56:09] if you do not have your snowshoes on your pack

[00:56:11] or you're not wearing them, they find you

[00:56:13] and say go home

[00:56:15] wow, interesting

[00:56:17] trails are literally like a highway there

[00:56:19] I've been exploring out there a little bit more

[00:56:21] and I'm gonna go back

[00:56:23] as soon as I put some grass in

[00:56:25] and finish the landscape into the cabin

[00:56:27] I'll start heading that way and hitting those mountains

[00:56:29] I do want to finish them this year though

[00:56:31] I want to do them all, not for a patch or anything

[00:56:33] they're pretty impressive from what I've seen

[00:56:35] beautiful, absolutely beautiful

[00:56:37] it takes a long time to get there

[00:56:39] that's far, over four and a half hours away

[00:56:41] a lot of long approaches I hear

[00:56:43] the approaches are very long to get

[00:56:45] not the ones I did so far

[00:56:47] I just did the smaller ones because I'm just new at it there

[00:56:49] I did porter, cascade

[00:56:51] giant, big slide, macomb slide

[00:56:53] actually

[00:56:55] I did white faces

[00:56:57] that was like my only winter at a rondeck

[00:56:59] are they similar?

[00:57:01] different, how would they like, comparatively?

[00:57:03] for here?

[00:57:05] I can't really tell because it was covered in snow

[00:57:07] but all I know is as far as trail conditions

[00:57:09] it was literally a highway

[00:57:11] you could almost ride a bicycle down

[00:57:13] it's nothing like here

[00:57:15] because here it's post-old to hell

[00:57:17] not there, they literally will find you

[00:57:19] and say go home

[00:57:21] so who will, rangers?

[00:57:23] there's a ranger station

[00:57:25] there's a few of them I guess

[00:57:27] but the only one I went to in the winter

[00:57:29] I didn't see them there that day

[00:57:31] mostly in the weekends they're there

[00:57:33] right at before you even start hiking

[00:57:35] and that's where all the trails start

[00:57:37] so it's almost like a stew it's called

[00:57:39] are they out there looking at people?

[00:57:41] yeah, that's what I've been told

[00:57:43] they have like snowshoe speed traps

[00:57:45] just come up behind the tree

[00:57:47] excuse me there

[00:57:49] how fast are you going?

[00:57:51] you see you're not wearing your snowshoes

[00:57:53] smell alcohol on your butt?

[00:57:55] why don't you pull over here

[00:57:57] can you imagine that?

[00:57:59] I can now

[00:58:01] imagine if there were certain people's backpack for alcohol

[00:58:03] the white mountains would be empty

[00:58:05] you'd be a lot less post-olds

[00:58:07] yeah, it's true you got a point

[00:58:09] well I mean if you think about it

[00:58:11] just safety wise post-olds can screw people up

[00:58:13] I put it up on Facebook before

[00:58:15] and had debates and people just

[00:58:17] you get hung so it's not even worth it

[00:58:19] but I am a

[00:58:21] I'm an advocate for wearing them

[00:58:23] when you need them

[00:58:25] I'm not embodying my choice

[00:58:27] but I was curious

[00:58:29] have you had a lot of call-outs, a lot of rescues

[00:58:31] for people that rolled ankles from post-olds

[00:58:33] if they were the ones wearing snowshoes

[00:58:35] because typically you can kind of go over

[00:58:37] there's a certain season where post-olds are just

[00:58:39] they're canyons it doesn't matter what you're wearing

[00:58:41] you're falling in

[00:58:43] but I was just curious

[00:58:45] to me I wear them before they come after me

[00:58:47] I wear my snowshoes everybody

[00:58:49] it's going to be okay

[00:58:51] I was going to give you a fine right now

[00:58:53] I've had a few

[00:58:55] winter is an anomaly though when it comes to search and rescue

[00:58:57] because there's all kinds of strange things that happen

[00:58:59] you get a lot of experienced people

[00:59:01] that are probably wearing all the right gear

[00:59:03] but just like

[00:59:05] make the wrong step and end up sliding

[00:59:07] that's what happened to me

[00:59:09] I want to say that

[00:59:11] was it the Avalon

[00:59:13] rescue was probably

[00:59:15] a lower leg injury

[00:59:17] the most recent one

[00:59:19] so it can happen for sure

[00:59:21] it's a whole weird

[00:59:23] variety of incidents

[00:59:25] that can happen over the winter

[00:59:27] it's hard too because today

[00:59:29] having snowshoes on would have killed me

[00:59:31] because of the slush factor

[00:59:33] coming down off the ledges

[00:59:35] it'd be skiing

[00:59:37] same thing we did today

[00:59:39] we had them on going up, took them off going down

[00:59:41] so you had better traction

[00:59:43] like you said it was way too slushy

[00:59:45] I ditched them early and I was like

[00:59:47] I need grip I can't

[00:59:49] yeah

[00:59:51] and this winter what do you think

[00:59:53] it hasn't been as bad as other winters

[00:59:55] it's like last year I believe

[00:59:57] soon as April hit, boom you got a couple of snowstorms

[00:59:59] it melts quick though which is good

[01:00:01] but I get the impression that the monorail

[01:00:03] this year is not going to be as severe

[01:00:05] as prior years

[01:00:07] but it does stick around for a while

[01:00:09] as we all know

[01:00:11] a lot of people go south

[01:00:13] they just stay, not me

[01:00:15] but a lot of people do and that's fine

[01:00:17] especially the bell naps

[01:00:19] just to stay away for a month or so

[01:00:21] stay away from the whites because of that

[01:00:23] did the Adirondacks close trails during mud season

[01:00:25] they're open?

[01:00:27] yes but we all know that

[01:00:29] but no Adirondacks I heard it is

[01:00:31] I have not been there in the spring

[01:00:33] I heard it's horrifying

[01:00:35] like knee deep mud

[01:00:37] I got some friends that I hike with

[01:00:39] you wait till you go out there in the spring

[01:00:41] man it's crazy but they do not close them

[01:00:43] Vermont's muddy

[01:00:45] like Gilligan's Island quick sand

[01:00:47] I was out there right at the end of

[01:00:49] mud season it was still muddy

[01:00:53] what about

[01:00:55] shifting gears a little bit

[01:00:57] you did your, what was it 100?

[01:00:59] summits of Mount Washington?

[01:01:01] 150

[01:01:03] it's not a lot though

[01:01:05] I'm just a little peon

[01:01:07] but I'm up to like 160

[01:01:09] 160

[01:01:11] I was just up there

[01:01:13] 3-4 days ago I just do it for the exercise

[01:01:15] though

[01:01:17] you know I don't list anything

[01:01:19] I don't write anything down

[01:01:21] I don't know how many miles I could kill

[01:01:23] I just go up to hike so I can eat whatever I want at night

[01:01:25] that's the only reason why I'm here

[01:01:27] he's the Jenny Craig of mountaineering

[01:01:29] hey that's an idea

[01:01:31] he's got his points

[01:01:33] now that I've got the cabin I can have

[01:01:35] this weight loss thing everybody can come by

[01:01:37] and I can take them hiking, stay the night

[01:01:39] sweet weight loss

[01:01:41] I just sat at this together

[01:01:43] don't drag me into this

[01:01:45] I need someone to help me

[01:01:47] I'm already carrying your pack for the 48

[01:01:49] this is true but I'm light padding

[01:01:51] I'm gonna hook you up come on take care of it

[01:01:55] alright so no list nothing serious

[01:01:57] no big ambitious things

[01:01:59] so we did talk about your

[01:02:01] efforts with adaptive

[01:02:03] what's going on with that

[01:02:05] I volunteer like a couple days a week

[01:02:07] it's awesome man it makes you feel real good

[01:02:09] you just to see them smile

[01:02:11] it's something special you gotta do it

[01:02:13] to see it it's pretty awesome

[01:02:15] so like this Saturday we're gonna take Sasha

[01:02:17] and her mother is amazing what a doll

[01:02:19] she actually worked for adaptive

[01:02:21] this time was tough though

[01:02:23] there was like one ski not a wheel

[01:02:25] this was a ski and it's got one ski

[01:02:27] on the middle of this adaptive wheelchair

[01:02:29] and you've got someone in the back

[01:02:31] and there's a brake so if you go down here

[01:02:33] you can stop it and then not on the ski

[01:02:35] but when it has the wheel on it

[01:02:37] yeah and you gotta like just go for a mile

[01:02:39] and a half or whatever the you know whatever it is

[01:02:41] what's the hardest thing you've done with

[01:02:43] one of the adaptive gliding

[01:02:45] really really like post-tolerant

[01:02:47] we couldn't wear the snowshoes because my snowshoes

[01:02:49] are in front of the thing we have to take them off

[01:02:51] I'm like a foot deep oh it was

[01:02:53] it was really hard oh no another one we did

[01:02:55] though with Nate runs it

[01:02:57] Nate and Kelly they're awesome people and

[01:02:59] where are they out of Franconia

[01:03:01] Franconia yeah yeah so as soon as

[01:03:03] you take that right there's a grocery store right there

[01:03:05] it's like right after that so

[01:03:07] we did it up the Flume Gorge

[01:03:09] up and down all those hills and like you know how people

[01:03:11] actually walk and that's hilly yeah

[01:03:13] it burns people out we have to do that

[01:03:15] the downs gotta be killer oh but we had

[01:03:17] that's where you have the brake so some

[01:03:19] on the ski I'm saying though he was with the ski

[01:03:21] they don't do that though but he does actually

[01:03:23] they do adaptive skiing though it's

[01:03:25] everything like gardening skiing kayaking

[01:03:27] but we typically play bocci ball at

[01:03:29] Dow Park and it's wicked competitive

[01:03:31] it's the cutest thing it really is

[01:03:33] even I'm on the team you know it's great so

[01:03:35] he's on fan duel taking the over under

[01:03:37] oh it's awesome but honestly

[01:03:39] when you do something like that it makes

[01:03:41] you feel good you know it was so

[01:03:43] we are so privileged we really are

[01:03:45] so I love doing it you know yeah well said

[01:03:47] and I could do it I'd like to get a job

[01:03:49] there but it's not a profit so it's not like you know

[01:03:51] the hiring you know but interesting

[01:03:53] how they doing for gear and donations and stuff like that

[01:03:55] that they from what I understand great

[01:03:57] I mean actually they had a bunch of

[01:03:59] snow shoes the other day we had about

[01:04:01] 10 people that were volunteering

[01:04:03] and it's all they had a brand new snow shoes

[01:04:05] and everything so I mean it's nice

[01:04:07] that they get you know the people do donate

[01:04:09] you know but I mean it's skis

[01:04:11] and snow shoes and spikes

[01:04:13] they have all the gear you know

[01:04:15] that's cool yeah it is

[01:04:17] the adaptive community is pretty prolific

[01:04:19] up here I mean there it's all over the place

[01:04:21] ski mountains different tunnels

[01:04:23] it's everywhere it's great it's really good to see

[01:04:25] it is yeah and actually when that last time I took

[01:04:27] athletes last year up what do you call

[01:04:29] that one across from Canon that small one I've done it

[01:04:31] a million times everybody's done it the small

[01:04:33] artist bluff artist when I was on artist bluff

[01:04:35] Nate was actually coming down on the adaptive

[01:04:37] with it with an athlete on the ski

[01:04:39] coming down so we filmed it

[01:04:41] can actually see him you know and they love

[01:04:43] it man the excitement in their face when

[01:04:45] they're skiing and you're taking them hiking

[01:04:47] and but you know all that they just light

[01:04:49] up you know especially Sasha when you go a little

[01:04:51] faster she gets this little excitement

[01:04:53] you know it's awesome such a ripple effect

[01:04:55] too for the family everybody around

[01:04:57] usually just so much positive yeah yeah

[01:04:59] absolutely you know and a lot of

[01:05:01] times they know that their home and this is

[01:05:03] there you know one or two days a week to actually

[01:05:05] get out and hang out with other people and see

[01:05:07] the nature and then they love it you're

[01:05:09] usually on the bike paths and things like that

[01:05:11] but we do take them up small and is Frank we

[01:05:13] go to Franconia too this Franconia field where

[01:05:15] they fly the planes so behind oh yeah

[01:05:17] sure I don't know the area too well but you

[01:05:19] don't behind there we do some hiking on the

[01:05:21] kinsman's the back that's right exactly yeah

[01:05:23] for once yes off 116 yeah

[01:05:25] so yeah now what about isn't there

[01:05:27] an ascent to the top of Mount

[01:05:29] Washington every year a road yeah

[01:05:31] yeah there is it's called a sunrise

[01:05:33] ascent ASPNC okay sunrise ascent

[01:05:35] this will be my 30th doing it so anybody

[01:05:37] interested you can volunteer you can sign

[01:05:39] up it can reach out to me

[01:05:41] yeah Nate also and Kelly run that

[01:05:43] cool okay and it's usually

[01:05:45] the end of July into August

[01:05:47] now it's on a Sunday how's that work

[01:05:49] do you everybody meets around two three

[01:05:51] in the morning this 10th setup at

[01:05:53] the base of Mount Washington auto

[01:05:55] road yeah and there's different teams

[01:05:57] I'm on team shock this will be my third

[01:05:59] year probably on team shock so

[01:06:01] yeah you just basically it's another

[01:06:03] specialized wheelchair one in the back

[01:06:05] one in the front it's I call it lead

[01:06:07] bull I had a strap around me so I'm

[01:06:09] actually pulling the cart okay so how

[01:06:11] many people around this car so that's

[01:06:13] two one in the front one in the back

[01:06:15] and sometimes two on each side pulling

[01:06:17] a strap because you're going up the

[01:06:19] auto road you're talking oh yeah

[01:06:21] stop there's a cut there's like two

[01:06:23] points we just stop off get a snack and

[01:06:25] you know we're flatten out a little bit

[01:06:27] but then we get to the summit of Mount

[01:06:29] Washington we actually carry it up to

[01:06:31] the summit and we all take a picture

[01:06:33] and then we take a van down so

[01:06:35] oh yeah I was going to ask yeah so

[01:06:37] I've summited Mount Washington

[01:06:39] 162 times but I can only count

[01:06:41] 160 because we had to take the van

[01:06:43] down that's actually scary that sucks

[01:06:45] I had a guy Steve last year he was

[01:06:47] driving me down and I can you go

[01:06:49] Eric I'm going eight miles an hour I'm

[01:06:51] like go to four this sucks I'm scared

[01:06:53] if everybody knows me heights I'm not a

[01:06:55] fan I'll hike up anything I'll do a

[01:06:57] headstand anyway but if you put me in a vehicle

[01:06:59] I don't go over 60 and I don't like heights

[01:07:01] but you get on slides yeah

[01:07:03] yeah but you did a handstand on

[01:07:05] boncliffe right in the snow with

[01:07:07] snowshoes on yeah this is insane see I get

[01:07:09] sick I get nauseous sick at the edge

[01:07:11] stuff like that no that doesn't bother

[01:07:13] me too much now

[01:07:15] I know it doesn't get him on the couch

[01:07:17] you see that's why it's there I'm

[01:07:19] telling you yeah

[01:07:21] that is a well that it is a bottomless

[01:07:23] well then yeah

[01:07:25] that I tell you is awesome

[01:07:27] we still like I said we started on three

[01:07:29] three thirty in the morning and all the teams

[01:07:31] start and we all go up into the camaraderie

[01:07:33] is incredible and at the end of the day

[01:07:35] there's a cookout down below and we all hang out with the athletes

[01:07:37] and yeah it's just it's fun it's really fun

[01:07:39] you get to meet all the new people too

[01:07:41] but it does put things in perspective how lucky

[01:07:43] we are unfortunate oh yeah have your health

[01:07:45] absolutely yeah you just said that the last

[01:07:47] episode like I'm just I thank God

[01:07:49] every time yeah every time I'm out there and thank you

[01:07:51] for my health I should be yeah absolutely

[01:07:53] yeah yeah because it doesn't last forever

[01:07:55] you know no nothing does no no we're

[01:07:57] only here for this little time so enjoy it

[01:07:59] be kind spread the spread the love

[01:08:01] spread the kindness stop you know

[01:08:03] just yeah yeah it's about

[01:08:05] I can't believe I'm sitting here with you two

[01:08:07] psychopaths wasting time right now doing this

[01:08:09] talking about I'm trying to find the tissues

[01:08:11] you too

[01:08:15] all right so we cover everything I mean

[01:08:17] what else is going on about it

[01:08:19] no I don't mean that

[01:08:21] he's gonna be talking to you know

[01:08:23] did you notice the gigantic bean bag

[01:08:25] I didn't notice that

[01:08:27] you touched that you'd be in trouble

[01:08:29] I'm not even looking at it

[01:08:31] are you getting ideas?

[01:08:33] nope I don't know

[01:08:35] alright well that goes over to you Dave

[01:08:37] so you're more of a bushwhacker by trade

[01:08:39] for now like I did the trails and

[01:08:41] kind of exhausted the list so to speak

[01:08:43] you know the 48s of 52s

[01:08:45] and all the numbers

[01:08:47] so I just kind of popped onto the 100

[01:08:49] started chipping away at those got a few of those

[01:08:51] left and then

[01:08:53] you can't necessarily

[01:08:55] but I'm not about to go hit some of those

[01:08:57] some of them are beasts for winter

[01:08:59] it's just not worth the efforts

[01:09:01] not comfortable doing some of those

[01:09:03] so I just kind of picking off the 500

[01:09:05] where are you now in terms of the 500

[01:09:07] today was a milestone today was 200

[01:09:09] awesome good for you man

[01:09:11] we got blocked last time private property

[01:09:13] rights are coming up more and more

[01:09:15] really you've noticed that?

[01:09:17] yep well you have to skirt a lot more

[01:09:19] and we were denied Melvin Mountain

[01:09:21] last week off of Orange by

[01:09:23] do you think it's because of the 500

[01:09:25] list that's aggravating

[01:09:27] homeowners and COVID

[01:09:29] oh because of the

[01:09:31] people had nothing to do they went out and they squatted

[01:09:33] they went out and camped in the woods for long periods of time

[01:09:35] they trashed it, they burned it

[01:09:37] they lit fires

[01:09:39] they had nothing to do

[01:09:41] so they all went out and just squatted and drove around

[01:09:43] people's land and the landowners get sick of it

[01:09:45] and a lot of these are like disconglomerates

[01:09:47] or LLCs that

[01:09:49] landowners pay them to put it in conservation

[01:09:51] it helps them on their taxes

[01:09:53] but when you don't use it for recreation

[01:09:55] you have to pay more in taxes

[01:09:57] and they're actually going to that extent

[01:09:59] to say we don't want it for recreation because

[01:10:01] people are trashing our land

[01:10:03] so they're actually posting signs and keeping people off

[01:10:05] and paying extra in taxes just so they don't get used

[01:10:07] for recreation

[01:10:09] which is a shame

[01:10:11] so yeah

[01:10:13] I chip away at it

[01:10:15] I get out where I can get out

[01:10:17] but I'm down for whatever

[01:10:19] I like to just hit stuff when people have cool hikes

[01:10:21] I love history

[01:10:23] I do

[01:10:25] my mind was so...

[01:10:27] it was the light petting that kind of got

[01:10:29] I don't even know if we're talking about miles

[01:10:31] I don't get out much

[01:10:33] I don't get out much

[01:10:35] and it's you

[01:10:37] you see you on the internet

[01:10:39] and I'm here with you now

[01:10:41] and he's hitting on me

[01:10:43] I don't even know what to do

[01:10:45] this doesn't happen again

[01:10:47] sorry to interrupt

[01:10:49] but

[01:10:51] so

[01:10:53] I like to get into the history

[01:10:55] stuff through a lot of mines

[01:10:57] a lot of old towns

[01:10:59] a lot of logging roads

[01:11:01] and then kind of weave it into different bush wax

[01:11:03] throw the pack on and take a hammock

[01:11:05] I love to just camp out in between

[01:11:07] have a night get up

[01:11:09] find moose bogs

[01:11:11] it's cool until they show up

[01:11:13] you're like oh god

[01:11:15] have you had luck finding moose?

[01:11:17] not necessarily, we just couple a nastream

[01:11:19] hopefully gonna go out this spring

[01:11:21] try to find some shed

[01:11:23] especially in that area

[01:11:25] this castle I gotta hit that one

[01:11:27] we've talked about it before

[01:11:29] but the 500 is based upon

[01:11:31] the foot prominence rule

[01:11:33] so basically a summit has to have 200 feet

[01:11:35] for it to count

[01:11:37] I don't know who came up with the list

[01:11:39] I know that there's an instagram group

[01:11:41] or a facebook

[01:11:43] maybe it's a dedicated website for the 500

[01:11:45] I use wild delis which is an app

[01:11:47] and I think it connects to all of them

[01:11:49] but I'm sure there's some differences

[01:11:51] I've got something to show you

[01:11:53] it's the cal topo as a 500

[01:11:55] I'll just see how they match up

[01:11:57] and some of them are

[01:11:59] they're just walks

[01:12:01] easy woods, you're up you're down

[01:12:03] and others are beatings

[01:12:05] there's something interesting

[01:12:07] spruce traps in the winter

[01:12:09] are you kidding me?

[01:12:11] this thing is like 1900 feet

[01:12:13] and you're struggling for a good hour

[01:12:15] to get through these spruce traps

[01:12:17] on the way down

[01:12:19] you can realize I could skirt it

[01:12:21] a lot of the bigger ones

[01:12:23] up in the whites have ledges

[01:12:25] you got one way in and one way out

[01:12:27] and up there you can go way around that way

[01:12:29] and come back

[01:12:31] speaking of that, not to interrupt

[01:12:33] did you see the movie they made about the whites

[01:12:35] that was not filmed in the whites?

[01:12:37] infinite storm

[01:12:39] did you see the spruce trap she fell in

[01:12:41] it's like 10-15 feet

[01:12:43] it's like an elevator shaft

[01:12:45] it just keeps going

[01:12:47] when swizer and I watched

[01:12:49] I sat there and laughed my ass off

[01:12:51] I've ever seen a mandoff fall off the bridge

[01:12:53] it keeps going

[01:12:55] Dave, the spruce trap is as high as this building

[01:12:57] was sitting in right now

[01:12:59] I'm not a big guy

[01:13:01] so I feel like spruce traps are big

[01:13:03] but it is a limit

[01:13:05] that was funny

[01:13:07] that was the one part of that movie

[01:13:09] that threw me off

[01:13:11] I could actually live with the views

[01:13:13] because it did resemble

[01:13:15] certain parts of the whites

[01:13:17] but the spruce trap got me

[01:13:19] I haven't seen that one yet

[01:13:21] it's a good comedy

[01:13:23] I can see it

[01:13:25] another spoiler

[01:13:27] we're killing it for you here

[01:13:29] he's never going to watch TV again

[01:13:31] now I'm afraid to hike

[01:13:33] wait till you hike with me

[01:13:37] what else is going on

[01:13:39] life is about to happen

[01:13:41] I've had a lot of time

[01:13:43] business is slowing down a little bit

[01:13:45] it's just function of the economy

[01:13:47] people have rebuilt everything

[01:13:49] that there is to rebuild

[01:13:51] spring is coming up

[01:13:53] it's going to pick back up

[01:13:55] the phone is already blowing up

[01:13:57] I've got one going into college

[01:13:59] and one coming out

[01:14:01] so life is going to be like

[01:14:03] yeah, so I'll get out when I can

[01:14:05] for sanity but it's just going to be

[01:14:07] hell

[01:14:09] good hell

[01:14:11] like temperature control

[01:14:13] climate control

[01:14:15] that's what I'm looking for

[01:14:17] very good

[01:14:21] it's time for

[01:14:23] Slasher's notable hike of the week

[01:14:25] if you want to be considered

[01:14:27] for the hike of the week

[01:14:29] simply tag Slasher

[01:14:31] on your social media post

[01:14:37] now we come to

[01:14:39] the notable

[01:14:41] hike of the week here

[01:14:43] what's that about? I've never heard of

[01:14:45] what is this notable hike? please explain more

[01:14:47] so you can

[01:14:49] for Slasher's notable hike of the week

[01:14:51] all I have to do is tag Slasher on Instagram

[01:14:53] for us to consider your hike

[01:14:55] as notable hike of the week

[01:14:57] and every week we get a whole bunch

[01:14:59] this week

[01:15:01] we have

[01:15:03] you didn't tag us this week did you?

[01:15:05] what? did you? wait let me

[01:15:07] shit

[01:15:09] hurry up

[01:15:11] can I do it right now

[01:15:13] well I think you did cone

[01:15:15] didn't you? technically

[01:15:17] this is the audio

[01:15:19] version of the post

[01:15:21] I'll give you a cone because we discussed that

[01:15:23] in detail

[01:15:25] ginger beard

[01:15:27] keen starts us off with

[01:15:29] Mikey

[01:15:31] he did

[01:15:33] cat or skill falls

[01:15:35] in the cat skills? oh I never heard of that

[01:15:37] I think he made it up

[01:15:39] bish

[01:15:41] bish falls in mass

[01:15:43] I have

[01:15:45] he tagged us again

[01:15:47] he did

[01:15:49] little pacman ed knock for sunset

[01:15:51] and then

[01:15:53] for the eclipse

[01:15:55] he was up on Madison and Adams and went back to the hut

[01:15:57] for the totality

[01:15:59] that's pretty slick

[01:16:01] he's another hostile

[01:16:03] guest

[01:16:05] at the sweet hostel

[01:16:07] oh the sweet hostel

[01:16:09] I thought he might have anger issues

[01:16:11] he's a cream puff

[01:16:13] Mike is one of the nicest men out there

[01:16:15] he's a great guy

[01:16:17] cream puff

[01:16:19] how about sweet out mike

[01:16:21] you're always our cream puff

[01:16:23] ginger beard

[01:16:25] so ec banks

[01:16:27] hikes tagged us for pierce

[01:16:29] with a brief attempt towards mitspa

[01:16:31] via the croffford path but ultimately turned back

[01:16:33] which is probably a good call

[01:16:35] get back to the super highway

[01:16:37] of the trail he was on

[01:16:39] Liz Faye tagged us

[01:16:41] Liz your partner

[01:16:43] nope she's out

[01:16:45] two times, that's enough

[01:16:47] shut it off

[01:16:49] you're not tom brady

[01:16:51] stop

[01:16:53] did garnet and louis hill and Bethlehem

[01:16:55] I've done those as well

[01:16:57] those are pretty cool

[01:16:59] I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt here

[01:17:01] let me look back

[01:17:03] in the list here to see if you did tag

[01:17:05] but hold on

[01:17:07] hold on

[01:17:09] wow

[01:17:11] this could be really embarrassing

[01:17:17] ginger beard

[01:17:19] hold on this is getting good

[01:17:21] oh wait a minute you did tag us

[01:17:23] you tagged us for

[01:17:25] don't tell me you stopped watching and missed the once in a lifetime double eclipse

[01:17:27] that was the one you

[01:17:29] I did the eclipse

[01:17:31] the last hike I did was

[01:17:33] before that was orange

[01:17:35] and someone else who you just mentioned

[01:17:37] got the notable hike

[01:17:39] I thought I was going to sneak in on that one

[01:17:41] but she didn't get that one

[01:17:43] she didn't get the notable because Mike caught on

[01:17:45] because I was trying to piggyback on that one

[01:17:47] if she had won

[01:17:49] I was there

[01:17:51] so it counts

[01:17:53] can you explain the other one there with the questionable decisions

[01:17:55] and there was a picture of a yellow kayak

[01:17:57] oh yeah

[01:18:01] funny thing

[01:18:03] we had just enough snow up in Vermont

[01:18:05] and we had more alcohol than we had snow

[01:18:07] and we were just kind of hanging out

[01:18:09] and we just decided

[01:18:11] that it would be fun

[01:18:13] first of all I had a butt sled and that's how it started

[01:18:15] so I made just a little luge

[01:18:17] down and then we built a little ramp

[01:18:19] to make the butt sled go faster right near the road

[01:18:21] how do you know where this was going

[01:18:23] we made a bigger ramp and then

[01:18:25] my son genetically linked

[01:18:27] was why don't we get the kayak

[01:18:29] and he being the adult said that's a terrible idea

[01:18:31] it's got a rudder

[01:18:33] that is a bad idea

[01:18:35] and he said well it doesn't have a rudder

[01:18:37] and somehow that was okay

[01:18:39] that she's like oh yeah go ahead then

[01:18:41] I'm like what?

[01:18:43] so perfect nothing to hold you back

[01:18:45] so and off we went and it was just an absolute blast

[01:18:47] that is freaking awesome

[01:18:49] we built a little ramp

[01:18:51] really? in a kayak?

[01:18:53] it was so much fun

[01:18:55] was it a two person or just one

[01:18:57] you can just totally mess yourself up

[01:18:59] you don't have to mess your partner up

[01:19:01] you can just put your vest on and it's a one person

[01:19:03] totally safe it was a blast

[01:19:05] we had style points

[01:19:07] then we had distance

[01:19:09] did it like roll left or right

[01:19:11] or did you use the paddle?

[01:19:13] it rolled left and then it tumbled

[01:19:15] it was a blast

[01:19:17] that sounds cool

[01:19:19] people would kind of watch

[01:19:21] I'm going to go down the caw in a kayak now

[01:19:23] I'm so excited

[01:19:25] I could tow that son of a bitch right up there

[01:19:27] stopping would be a problem I think

[01:19:29] you'd stop

[01:19:31] you'd get air

[01:19:33] I just wouldn't want to go into Burt's ravine

[01:19:37] I'm going to make sure it's below Jacob's ladder

[01:19:41] that's hairy I've yet to see that in person

[01:19:43] is it really that dangerous?

[01:19:45] well I know Jacob's but Burt

[01:19:47] that one section where

[01:19:49] when there's a lot of snow

[01:19:51] it tends to pile up next to the track

[01:19:53] then it makes like a 45 degree angle

[01:19:55] so you literally have to like

[01:19:57] dig in

[01:19:59] or walk close to the tracks

[01:20:01] because you can slide off

[01:20:03] how much of a drop?

[01:20:05] 30, 40 feet

[01:20:07] well with a friend of mine

[01:20:09] actually a couple of years ago

[01:20:11] she got rescued there

[01:20:13] during COVID?

[01:20:15] I do

[01:20:17] she got hurt real bad

[01:20:19] I remember she took a lot of heat

[01:20:21] to social media

[01:20:23] exactly when I did it

[01:20:25] I see it wasn't too sketchy

[01:20:27] but at that 45 degree angle

[01:20:29] with Littlefoot we were going up there

[01:20:31] and I tied a rope from my belt

[01:20:33] to hers to make sure

[01:20:35] she wouldn't go sliding

[01:20:37] she needed a band wash

[01:20:39] and so we went up that way

[01:20:41] sometimes it's really

[01:20:43] depends on how much snow there is

[01:20:45] but if there's not a lot of snow

[01:20:47] it's like a little bowl

[01:20:49] the more snow piles up close to that track

[01:20:51] especially if it snow packs and gets icy

[01:20:53] I've seen it really icy

[01:20:55] gone up there with

[01:20:57] one of the few places I've used full crampons

[01:20:59] had the axe out

[01:21:01] you sneeze one way

[01:21:03] and you see people with ice axes skiing

[01:21:05] but they're on their backpack

[01:21:07] you can't have it in your hands

[01:21:09] so what are you carrying it for?

[01:21:11] it's safe but you can't go on the other side

[01:21:13] of the track, there's too much snow

[01:21:15] it all builds up there with a drift

[01:21:17] so we're going to do the kayak thing

[01:21:19] just remind me after the show

[01:21:21] last on this list is

[01:21:23] Carrie Barrel

[01:21:25] who did Madison and Adams as well

[01:21:27] for the eclipse

[01:21:29] Dave of course, he would give you a cone

[01:21:31] so Dave I guess you can decide

[01:21:33] who's the notable hike of the week

[01:21:35] that puts a ton of pressure on me

[01:21:37] I know

[01:21:39] I can't do my beer

[01:21:41] I'm handing this to you

[01:21:43] on a platter

[01:21:45] I have guilt

[01:21:47] I can hear Mike and Russia screaming

[01:21:49] I don't know how you say no in Russian

[01:21:51] no, yeah

[01:21:53] I don't know

[01:21:55] can I give it to myself

[01:21:57] I don't know how this works

[01:21:59] is he just going to come back and overturn it

[01:22:01] does he have that power?

[01:22:03] I don't think he has that power, this is a 50-50

[01:22:05] venture

[01:22:07] I guess I'm a self-appointed notable hiker

[01:22:09] I feel weird about this, I feel dirty

[01:22:11] no, give it to yourself

[01:22:13] what do you think?

[01:22:15] the eclipse happened

[01:22:17] that's a rarity

[01:22:19] this moment will never happen again

[01:22:21] probably where he's in Europe

[01:22:23] and has no say in this matter

[01:22:25] whatsoever so I would take the ball and run

[01:22:27] I think this is the day

[01:22:29] I think this is it

[01:22:31] I think it's happening

[01:22:33] I think we have totality

[01:22:35] I agree, the vote is in

[01:22:37] congratulations

[01:22:39] I'd like to thank everybody

[01:22:41] of Heitzlitz

[01:22:43] I can't forget my parents

[01:22:45] I can't forget my parents

[01:22:47] who give them a skunky wife

[01:22:49] do you want to own the couch and have a talk?

[01:22:51] we might need those skunky wives

[01:22:53] I just need a minute, I never thought this day would happen

[01:22:55] here we are

[01:22:57] he's glowing

[01:22:59] Susan Lucci, I love you

[01:23:01] thank you so much

[01:23:03] here comes the music

[01:23:05] I'd like to thank the academy

[01:23:07] there's just too many people

[01:23:09] oh my god

[01:23:11] congratulations

[01:23:13] where's Ricky at your base when you need him?

[01:23:15] I'm going to print that shirt

[01:23:17] when I get home

[01:23:19] my name in the back and everything

[01:23:21] oh man, Mike's going to have a heart attack

[01:23:23] no, that's funny

[01:23:25] so let's go into our

[01:23:27] guest of the week

[01:23:29] and this is

[01:23:31] 48 Peaks Alzheimer's

[01:23:33] we're going to talk to you Cindy Hessian

[01:23:35] and Elena Barrett of 48 Peaks

[01:23:37] let's check it out

[01:23:39] Cindy, that's another hostile

[01:23:41] she's hostile

[01:23:43] oh, she's a sweet hut

[01:23:49] Slasher's hiking topic of the week

[01:23:55] so tonight we are joined

[01:23:57] by Cindy Hessian

[01:23:59] is that correct Cindy? Hessian or Hessian?

[01:24:01] Hessian, Hessian

[01:24:03] a little fast, okay

[01:24:05] and Elena Barrett

[01:24:07] they're two representatives

[01:24:09] oh my goodness, I'm off to such a horrible start

[01:24:11] I have times all the time

[01:24:13] does it really happen all the time?

[01:24:15] that's alright, I'll respond to you there

[01:24:17] okay, well

[01:24:19] they're both from the Alzheimer's

[01:24:21] Association

[01:24:23] and there's a big event coming up this spring

[01:24:25] and it's right up here

[01:24:27] in the northeast in New Hampshire

[01:24:29] it's called the 48 Peaks Alzheimer's event

[01:24:31] and they're here to break it down for us

[01:24:33] but do you two get nervous doing these things?

[01:24:35] do you do a lot of these

[01:24:37] interviews and online types of things?

[01:24:41] this is only my second

[01:24:43] so I still get a little of those nerves

[01:24:45] I had one earlier this week

[01:24:47] and so I feel like I'm fresh on

[01:24:49] coming off one and I really enjoyed the experience

[01:24:51] so happy to be here

[01:24:53] alright, and how about you Cindy?

[01:24:55] I'm getting better, I still had some nerves

[01:24:57] but I was like, it's stomp

[01:24:59] I should be too afraid, right?

[01:25:01] yeah, I won't fight

[01:25:03] you know what's funny, I get actually sort of nervous doing these

[01:25:05] I had

[01:25:07] for some reason, it's easier when Mike's here

[01:25:09] because he's such a pro with it

[01:25:11] but yeah, for whatever reason I get a little nervous

[01:25:13] it's actually easier for me if people are in the room

[01:25:15] here with me, I find that easier

[01:25:17] but like through the remote connection

[01:25:19] it's just a little odd

[01:25:21] but anyhow

[01:25:23] so before we get into the big topics

[01:25:25] Cindy, how did you get into hiking

[01:25:27] and how did you get into

[01:25:29] this great organization?

[01:25:31] yeah, I'd say

[01:25:33] I first got into hiking as a kid

[01:25:35] my dad was a member of the Mass Audubon Society

[01:25:37] and I went to the local nature camp

[01:25:39] like for February and April breaks

[01:25:41] so you know, hiking as a kid is like one

[01:25:43] two miles, right?

[01:25:45] and then when I was in grad school

[01:25:47] out at UMass Amherst

[01:25:49] I explored a bit of the valley there

[01:25:51] and got into hiking

[01:25:53] and then one of my friends and her mom were working on the 48

[01:25:55] and ended up doing the 48

[01:25:57] that's how I got

[01:25:59] into New Hampshire hiking

[01:26:01] so you're looking right now

[01:26:03] are you living down where in Mass or?

[01:26:05] yeah, I'm right outside Boston

[01:26:07] so we have some

[01:26:09] middle sexfells, blue hills

[01:26:11] I could drive out to like watch Chuset

[01:26:13] and then it's a good hour

[01:26:15] up to like, Winnipeg-Sawke area

[01:26:17] and then two of the whites

[01:26:19] yeah, it's not too bad

[01:26:21] okay, excellent and how did you get involved

[01:26:23] with the Alzheimer's organization?

[01:26:25] so the same friend I mentioned

[01:26:27] who got me into the 48

[01:26:29] and her mom were hiking

[01:26:31] I think it was the Franconia Loop back in 2017

[01:26:33] and they came upon

[01:26:35] a group of hikers

[01:26:37] dressed in purple

[01:26:39] and they asked, you know, what are you out here doing?

[01:26:41] and it was for 48 peaks

[01:26:43] so she

[01:26:45] didn't have a connection at the time to Alzheimer's

[01:26:47] or dementia but she knew I did

[01:26:49] so she sent me the details

[01:26:51] we signed up for 2018

[01:26:53] and then got a whole team together in 2019

[01:26:55] and here we are, I'm still doing it

[01:26:57] wow, that's great and is it all volunteer for you?

[01:27:01] or are you actually a paid volunteer

[01:27:03] or how does that work?

[01:27:05] all volunteer, I'm the new volunteer chair

[01:27:07] actually for this year

[01:27:09] so that's my first time

[01:27:11] jumping into helping really

[01:27:13] you know, I've always been involved organizing

[01:27:15] since 2020 but now I'm really helping

[01:27:17] work one-on-one with Megan

[01:27:19] yeah, yeah

[01:27:21] playing everything with the team, yeah

[01:27:23] well, that's fantastic, I mean I've not met

[01:27:25] anybody that hasn't been just top notch

[01:27:27] from the organization, Megan

[01:27:31] Lynn, is Lynn's user still involved?

[01:27:33] I mean everybody is just really phenomenal

[01:27:37] you have such a great crew

[01:27:39] okay so how about you, Alana?

[01:27:41] yeah, so I

[01:27:43] I'm a little bit newer into the hiking

[01:27:45] I did a little bit different than Cindy

[01:27:47] I didn't really grow up with too much hiking experience

[01:27:49] I'm also in Massachusetts

[01:27:51] a little closer to the New Hampshire border

[01:27:53] but

[01:27:55] kind of got into it through the Alzheimer's route

[01:27:57] my mom

[01:27:59] has younger onset Alzheimer's

[01:28:01] and as a caregiver I started

[01:28:03] getting involved in the Alzheimer's

[01:28:05] associations they have so many different

[01:28:07] ways to get involved

[01:28:09] whether it's a walk or a race

[01:28:11] or going to

[01:28:13] different events or just

[01:28:15] looking at their resources

[01:28:17] and hiking was something that I did

[01:28:19] kind of want to get into and explore

[01:28:21] and wanted to kind of find a community

[01:28:23] that I could learn from

[01:28:25] and this popped up on social media

[01:28:27] as kind of a good way

[01:28:29] to kind of get my foot maybe in the door

[01:28:31] learn some hiking experience

[01:28:33] so two years ago

[01:28:35] I was able to join Cindy along on a hike

[01:28:37] and do my first

[01:28:39] 48 and so I'm still new into the

[01:28:41] hiking realm but everyone has been

[01:28:43] so welcoming and kind

[01:28:45] and

[01:28:47] really a great community when it comes to

[01:28:49] support with Alzheimer's whether someone's

[01:28:51] dealing with it directly or wants to

[01:28:53] learn more about it it's just been an awesome resource

[01:28:55] okay now what was your first

[01:28:57] 48 peak

[01:28:59] after all we are a hiking podcast

[01:29:01] okay

[01:29:03] after all we are a hiking podcast

[01:29:05] yeah so I'm up

[01:29:07] I'm up to three now

[01:29:09] I'm hoping to do a few more and within the last few years

[01:29:11] I've gone kind of from hiking

[01:29:13] once or twice to getting out there

[01:29:15] more often on the weekends

[01:29:17] I'm excited to get out there

[01:29:19] and do a little bit more this year

[01:29:21] and this year I get to lead my own team

[01:29:23] for the first time so

[01:29:25] really excited. Yeah we'll talk about that

[01:29:27] for sure but when it comes to Alzheimer's

[01:29:29] Alana

[01:29:31] can you talk about Alzheimer's

[01:29:33] in general for the audience

[01:29:35] just you know

[01:29:37] history causes

[01:29:39] treatments things of that nature

[01:29:41] yeah absolutely so

[01:29:43] I'll start first with a lot of times

[01:29:45] we'll hear dementia and then there are Alzheimer's

[01:29:47] and dementia is

[01:29:49] an umbrella term it really describes

[01:29:51] the symptoms

[01:29:53] associated with Alzheimer's

[01:29:55] which is a form of dementia

[01:29:57] and some of those are

[01:29:59] most common memory loss but sometimes

[01:30:01] confusion trouble cognitively

[01:30:03] and behaviorably with everyday tasks

[01:30:05] and so Alzheimer's is one

[01:30:07] of the most common types of dementia

[01:30:09] but there also are other types of dementia

[01:30:11] and so wanted to kind

[01:30:13] start with that distinction because sometimes you hear both

[01:30:15] terms and you're like are they the same

[01:30:17] are they different and so

[01:30:19] the first time kind of learning

[01:30:21] kind of what symptoms my mom was having

[01:30:23] and she's now in her 60s

[01:30:25] but she started seeing some of these symptoms

[01:30:27] in her 50s and they were

[01:30:29] kind of that memory loss

[01:30:31] and having trouble kind of remembering

[01:30:33] different daily tasks or different

[01:30:35] conversations that she had

[01:30:37] she was a nurse

[01:30:39] and fantastic nurse but

[01:30:41] with introduction of new electronic health records

[01:30:43] and stuff like that some of those

[01:30:45] day to day tasks just got really challenging

[01:30:47] and then there's also

[01:30:49] some other behavioral aspects

[01:30:51] and everyone presents a little bit differently

[01:30:53] I'm obviously talking about my experience with my mom

[01:30:55] but some people see

[01:30:57] different behaviors

[01:30:59] or different signs that might indicate

[01:31:01] there are I think

[01:31:03] 10s like common symptoms

[01:31:05] and on the Alzheimer's

[01:31:07] association website

[01:31:09] they kind of list out these different early detection

[01:31:11] type of symptoms

[01:31:13] that you might see it's a really great resource

[01:31:15] so if you know

[01:31:17] someone that you know or maybe yourself

[01:31:19] you start kind of feeling like maybe these are

[01:31:21] something I should be concerned about doesn't feel

[01:31:23] like it's part of the normal healthy aging

[01:31:25] process of a brain

[01:31:27] not to say that lapses

[01:31:29] in confusion here they're getting confused

[01:31:31] isn't normal sometimes it is

[01:31:33] but definitely check out the resource

[01:31:35] on Alzheimer's page for a little bit more

[01:31:37] depth as well as you know talk to a doctor

[01:31:39] or a medical professional

[01:31:41] there's really a concern

[01:31:43] and when you say Alzheimer's page is that the national

[01:31:45] what page exactly is this

[01:31:47] yep so the website you can

[01:31:49] go to is um

[01:31:51] alz.org

[01:31:53] okay yes okay

[01:31:55] and then for more specifics about kind of

[01:31:57] that's that'll bring into the general page

[01:31:59] but more specifics about our

[01:32:01] are what we're going to talk about here with

[01:32:03] 48 peaks you can find that

[01:32:05] alz.org

[01:32:07] or alz.org

[01:32:09] okay

[01:32:11] I also happen to have the 10 signs of Alzheimer's

[01:32:13] I have a print out I keep it on my fridge

[01:32:15] I can read them

[01:32:17] if it's helpful

[01:32:19] just as like a reference for everyone

[01:32:21] so Alana mentioned a few already

[01:32:23] so there's memory loss

[01:32:25] that disrupts daily life

[01:32:27] challenges in planning

[01:32:29] or problem solving

[01:32:31] difficulty completing familiar tasks

[01:32:33] at home at work or at leisure

[01:32:35] confusion with time and place

[01:32:37] trouble understanding visual

[01:32:39] images or spatial relationships

[01:32:41] new problems with words

[01:32:43] and speaking or writing

[01:32:45] misplacing things and losing the ability

[01:32:47] to retrace your steps

[01:32:49] decreased or poor judgment

[01:32:51] withdrawal from work or social activities

[01:32:53] and changes in mood and personality

[01:32:57] so it's a nice little print out I actually

[01:32:59] well you can't see it because my background's blurred but

[01:33:01] it's something I just keep on my fridge

[01:33:03] and it's on the alz website

[01:33:05] like Alana mentioned

[01:33:07] anyone wants to keep it handy as well

[01:33:09] yeah no it's definitely good to know

[01:33:11] so

[01:33:13] either one of you can talk about this maybe Cindy

[01:33:15] what about genetics

[01:33:17] or

[01:33:19] prevention early signs symptoms that type of thing

[01:33:21] we went over some of the symptoms

[01:33:23] how about is there a genetic link

[01:33:25] does it run in families

[01:33:27] or what's happening with that

[01:33:29] yeah it's

[01:33:31] having a parent or sibling with all

[01:33:33] timers increases your risk it doesn't mean

[01:33:35] you will develop it but it definitely

[01:33:37] increases your chances of it

[01:33:39] there is genetic testing

[01:33:41] available but the association

[01:33:43] doesn't recommend it and

[01:33:45] instead if you notice signs talk to your doctor

[01:33:47] or call the association's

[01:33:49] helpline for advice

[01:33:51] so there is definitely

[01:33:53] some different genetic influences

[01:33:55] for sure

[01:33:57] I suppose I'll go back to you

[01:33:59] how about

[01:34:01] preventative steps that somebody can take

[01:34:03] to mitigate

[01:34:05] the risk of developing Alzheimer's

[01:34:07] yeah absolutely

[01:34:09] there is still a lot of

[01:34:11] research being done into kind of

[01:34:13] understanding more about what the cause is

[01:34:15] or kind of research into

[01:34:17] understanding it and there are

[01:34:19] you know a lot of research

[01:34:21] coming out that lifestyle factors

[01:34:23] you know exercise

[01:34:25] and healthy diet

[01:34:27] and kind of being mindful

[01:34:29] of you know your daily

[01:34:31] activities

[01:34:33] can really help decrease your risk

[01:34:35] of Alzheimer's

[01:34:37] making sure that you're taking care

[01:34:39] of your body and you know you make sure

[01:34:41] you're getting your regular screenings

[01:34:43] and checkups and stuff like that

[01:34:45] because there is a lot of correlation

[01:34:47] between kind of having

[01:34:49] other diseases and developing Alzheimer's

[01:34:51] okay

[01:34:53] alright any other causes

[01:34:55] that have been discovered

[01:34:57] pollution or environmental causes

[01:34:59] yeah there is definitely

[01:35:01] some environmental causes as well

[01:35:03] I don't think they are

[01:35:05] able to pinpoint one thing here

[01:35:07] or there but in terms

[01:35:09] of a healthy living environment

[01:35:11] and you know clean air

[01:35:13] and clean water and resources

[01:35:15] to kind of healthy young processed food

[01:35:17] is definitely goes a long way

[01:35:19] into keeping your brain healthy

[01:35:21] just overall

[01:35:23] yeah there has been a lot of talk about that lately

[01:35:25] just in the news

[01:35:27] media in general

[01:35:29] yeah I think it all comes back to

[01:35:31] the principles of brain health too

[01:35:33] you know the food that you eat

[01:35:35] and how you spend your day

[01:35:37] you're trying to keep your brain healthy

[01:35:39] and functioning and keep it engaged

[01:35:41] and a lot of those

[01:35:43] aspects are really important for

[01:35:45] preventing Alzheimer's

[01:35:47] okay now how about

[01:35:49] family support and treatment

[01:35:51] what resources are out there

[01:35:53] for families or

[01:35:55] couples, individuals that may be experiencing

[01:35:57] this

[01:35:59] I can cover caregiver support

[01:36:01] first so the association

[01:36:03] offers a number of resources for caregivers

[01:36:05] including like I mentioned the 24-7

[01:36:07] health line

[01:36:09] it's I can mention it

[01:36:11] I think it will be in the show notes but it's

[01:36:13] 1-800-272-3900

[01:36:15] it's 24-7

[01:36:17] there's over 200

[01:36:19] clinicians manning it

[01:36:21] I shouldn't say 200

[01:36:23] 200 languages spoken

[01:36:25] by the clinicians who man the health line

[01:36:27] and you can call them with

[01:36:29] any question they'll help you figure out

[01:36:31] what's best for your situation

[01:36:33] and offer advice

[01:36:35] there's also they can provide tips

[01:36:37] on addressing caregiver stress

[01:36:39] depression, dealing with grief

[01:36:41] there's other support groups

[01:36:43] Alana I'm sure can comment on this

[01:36:45] there's caregiver support groups

[01:36:47] if you're a young caregiver

[01:36:49] or if you're a sandwich generation

[01:36:51] for anybody who might need

[01:36:53] just a listening ear and some support

[01:36:55] from people in a similar situation as you

[01:36:57] and there's just

[01:36:59] in general education programs as well

[01:37:01] both in person and online

[01:37:03] that caregivers can utilize

[01:37:05] and they're free

[01:37:07] go ahead Alana

[01:37:09] in my experience utilizing these resources has been

[01:37:11] extremely helpful

[01:37:13] I said my mom was diagnosed at a younger age

[01:37:15] me being in my 20s

[01:37:17] wasn't really seeing too many people

[01:37:19] in my shoes that had a parent

[01:37:21] maybe it was a grandparent or something like that

[01:37:23] but reaching out to the all-time

[01:37:25] association especially some of those support groups

[01:37:27] are just finding a community like

[01:37:29] 48 peaks where

[01:37:31] there are others that you can connect with

[01:37:33] has been so helpful and supportive

[01:37:35] and it's kind of helped give me a voice

[01:37:37] to talk to others that

[01:37:39] I might have not had the chance to talk to

[01:37:41] because

[01:37:43] I wasn't sure if there was anyone else

[01:37:45] I knew that was going through this

[01:37:47] so can definitely say

[01:37:49] that those resources are really helpful

[01:37:51] for taking the steps

[01:37:53] and being able to talk to folks

[01:37:55] That's incredible

[01:37:57] now how about the financial

[01:37:59] impact on families

[01:38:01] I mean how does this

[01:38:03] impact a family

[01:38:05] somebody who may have to stop

[01:38:07] working full time or what exactly

[01:38:09] can you tell us about that

[01:38:11] Go ahead Cindy

[01:38:13] I got some quick facts and then Alana

[01:38:15] can expand on them

[01:38:17] in terms of impact it's very

[01:38:19] significant as you can probably imagine

[01:38:21] our aging population continues to grow

[01:38:23] so in

[01:38:25] 2023 I should say

[01:38:27] not 2013 wrong year

[01:38:29] Alzheimer's and other dementias

[01:38:31] were estimated to toss the nation

[01:38:33] $345 billion

[01:38:35] and by 2050

[01:38:37] that could rise to nearly a trillion

[01:38:39] dollars so it is very significant

[01:38:41] and in terms

[01:38:43] of people more than

[01:38:45] 11 million Americans provide

[01:38:47] unpaid care

[01:38:49] and in 2022 that was valued

[01:38:51] as almost $340 billion

[01:38:53] in terms of how much that unpaid

[01:38:55] care cost so it

[01:38:57] is sometimes a

[01:38:59] thankless job I'm sure it is an unpaid

[01:39:01] role as well and

[01:39:03] it has a huge not only financial burden

[01:39:05] but I'm sure an emotional

[01:39:07] potentially physical burden as well

[01:39:09] on yourself and your family

[01:39:11] as you're caring for your loved one

[01:39:13] Alana

[01:39:15] Yeah I would add that

[01:39:17] at least from our

[01:39:19] experience

[01:39:21] definitely

[01:39:23] because the disease is so long in the progression

[01:39:25] we've been on caring for my mom

[01:39:27] for 10 years

[01:39:29] it does have a strong financial

[01:39:31] impact kind of those facts that

[01:39:33] we shared about caregivers

[01:39:35] giving you know setting aside

[01:39:37] time from their own work to

[01:39:39] do caregiving

[01:39:41] a really important tip if someone is

[01:39:43] kind of seeing these symptoms

[01:39:45] early on and feels like they're nice

[01:39:47] to be action is definitely

[01:39:49] engaged with some financial planning

[01:39:51] or there's definitely some

[01:39:53] folks that are specialized in kind of helping

[01:39:55] navigate the financial path because

[01:39:57] on top of you know the burden

[01:39:59] of caregiving and the stress of caregiving

[01:40:01] if you're adding a financial stress to

[01:40:03] it can feel really overwhelming

[01:40:05] and the Alzheimer's Association

[01:40:07] can definitely help with kind of

[01:40:09] you know questions around that

[01:40:11] I know they might have some support groups too

[01:40:13] but really

[01:40:15] be proactive about

[01:40:17] that earlier rather than later

[01:40:19] and kind of work with

[01:40:21] kind of financially planning so that

[01:40:23] you're not too

[01:40:25] stressed out later along

[01:40:27] What are your thoughts regarding

[01:40:29] keeping somebody

[01:40:31] home as long as possible

[01:40:37] versus like an institutional

[01:40:39] approach I know that see this is the hardest thing

[01:40:41] I'm a physical therapist and I work in

[01:40:43] a lot of memory

[01:40:45] care units and you see the struggle

[01:40:47] that families go through and the

[01:40:49] difficulty when

[01:40:51] the realization happens that

[01:40:53] this is just not safe

[01:40:55] anymore and I may have to

[01:40:57] change the

[01:40:59] position of my loved one

[01:41:01] so that they're in a safe environment

[01:41:05] What's out there for data and information

[01:41:07] regarding

[01:41:09] how people do at home versus

[01:41:11] an institution

[01:41:13] I know it's a tough question but

[01:41:15] maybe an obvious question but

[01:41:17] any insight as to that

[01:41:19] I can speak to that from our personal

[01:41:21] experience that

[01:41:23] there is a lot of options

[01:41:25] and resources and it comes down to

[01:41:27] what works best for each individual

[01:41:29] family when it kind of

[01:41:31] gets to a point where you feel like

[01:41:33] your loved one's safety or

[01:41:35] their ability to be cared for at home

[01:41:37] is kind of not able

[01:41:39] to be met then sometimes

[01:41:41] moving them into a facility means that they get a better quality

[01:41:43] of life and they get fair met by

[01:41:45] the needs of folks that are trained

[01:41:47] to do so but it can be a really difficult

[01:41:49] decision and

[01:41:51] for our family we've kind

[01:41:53] of looked at what are some of the options that we're able to

[01:41:55] keep my mom at home as long

[01:41:57] as possible and one of that is that

[01:41:59] my dad is retired and I work

[01:42:01] from home and we are a team

[01:42:03] and we both

[01:42:05] work really hard to try and balance it

[01:42:07] but not everyone can

[01:42:09] sometimes people are diagnosed with this much later on

[01:42:11] in life and might not have the physical

[01:42:13] strength a lot of times I'm out there

[01:42:15] lifting up my mom or kind of getting down

[01:42:17] there on the floor and stuff like that

[01:42:19] and so totally

[01:42:21] understand when you know there's a lot

[01:42:23] of circumstances and understanding

[01:42:25] that financial component that we talked about

[01:42:27] that kind of lead into why someone would

[01:42:29] see care but for us some of

[01:42:31] the resources that we've used to be able to keep

[01:42:33] my mom at home is looking at adult day

[01:42:35] care programs, looking at community

[01:42:37] resources, looking at different

[01:42:39] caregivers that can come into

[01:42:41] the home and that there's

[01:42:43] different you know services that can be provided

[01:42:45] to kind of offer the caregivers

[01:42:47] a little bit of respite care

[01:42:49] and kind of give them a break as well as

[01:42:51] kind of meet some of those

[01:42:53] needs of if it's

[01:42:55] you know comes down to just giving them

[01:42:57] a little extra support

[01:42:59] and be able to keep someone at home and so

[01:43:01] again Alzheimer's Association

[01:43:03] has a lot of great resources

[01:43:05] and if there's questions on kind of what some of these

[01:43:07] resources are to be able to keep a loved one

[01:43:09] at home a little bit longer

[01:43:11] it's a great place to start

[01:43:13] okay yeah that's

[01:43:15] great that you mentioned that so adult day care

[01:43:17] that's a great option

[01:43:19] down to master's plenty of that

[01:43:21] I remember when I was doing home care

[01:43:23] sometimes I would go in and work with some of these

[01:43:25] individuals in those facilities

[01:43:27] which is great

[01:43:29] and then caregivers such as

[01:43:31] visiting angels or

[01:43:33] other organizations like that is that what

[01:43:35] you're referring to

[01:43:37] yeah there's a different assortment

[01:43:39] of yeah of home care

[01:43:41] some of it is private

[01:43:43] depending on you know financial

[01:43:45] feasibility and stuff like that there is some that

[01:43:47] might be qualified for by insurance

[01:43:49] depending on what the physical needs are

[01:43:51] and what the

[01:43:53] daily activities that that person

[01:43:55] either need support with or can actually

[01:43:57] function with

[01:43:59] alrighty

[01:44:01] I guess we should shift gears did I miss anything

[01:44:03] regarding some of the basics out there

[01:44:05] for Alzheimer's in the care that's involved

[01:44:07] before we move on to this great event

[01:44:09] we talk about treatment

[01:44:11] I think we briefly mentioned it

[01:44:13] but I sure end up

[01:44:15] saying specifics about it

[01:44:17] we are thankfully in the

[01:44:19] era of treatment and I know we've said that

[01:44:21] on I think a past episode that I was on

[01:44:23] but the last two years

[01:44:25] have had huge progress

[01:44:27] in the research and

[01:44:29] you know drug discovery space

[01:44:31] so we do have our first FDA

[01:44:33] and more importantly Medicare

[01:44:35] covered drug LeCambi

[01:44:37] and it does address

[01:44:39] the underlying causes of dementia

[01:44:41] not just the symptoms so this is

[01:44:43] for early stage patients

[01:44:45] just to clarify it's not for

[01:44:47] late stage but if you catch the symptoms

[01:44:49] early there is now

[01:44:51] an option for treatment

[01:44:53] so hopefully it will

[01:44:55] you know as I mentioned it addresses the underlying

[01:44:57] causes of dementia so it should

[01:44:59] you know reduce the

[01:45:01] progression and maybe

[01:45:03] as we were talking about

[01:45:05] lengthen out how long you can keep someone at

[01:45:07] home before maybe having to move

[01:45:09] your loved one into assisted

[01:45:11] living or memory care for example

[01:45:13] so it's definitely

[01:45:15] very hopeful. So that's been

[01:45:17] the last two years roughly

[01:45:19] that it's been available?

[01:45:21] It might be a year

[01:45:23] I forget the exact timing

[01:45:25] but it has it had

[01:45:27] the clinical trial results came out within the last

[01:45:29] two years and then the approval happened

[01:45:31] Wow that's great

[01:45:33] we'll see how it goes

[01:45:35] any long term studies behind that

[01:45:37] or

[01:45:39] I believe there's more

[01:45:41] in like the early stages

[01:45:43] but I don't know off the top of my head

[01:45:45] where they stand but there's more

[01:45:47] coming hopefully. Oh I'm sure

[01:45:49] yeah a lot of stuff is happening fast

[01:45:51] in the medical field and especially

[01:45:53] the genetics field as well

[01:45:55] alright well that's good news

[01:45:57] did we talk about

[01:45:59] diet and exercise

[01:46:01] enough as well?

[01:46:03] Like Alana

[01:46:05] are you able to

[01:46:07] take your mom out

[01:46:09] and get her moving

[01:46:11] and just get the blood flow in and everything else

[01:46:13] I mean it's clearly important

[01:46:15] to have an active lifestyle

[01:46:17] gets trickier as we get older

[01:46:19] but how's that been for you?

[01:46:21] Yeah I think

[01:46:23] active lifestyle

[01:46:25] and diet and exercise

[01:46:27] can be one of the biggest factors

[01:46:29] in making a difference

[01:46:31] in even preventing but also when someone

[01:46:33] is diagnosed in those earlier stages

[01:46:35] can really make a difference

[01:46:37] in promoting that

[01:46:39] they're able to kind of

[01:46:41] delay the progression

[01:46:43] of the disease.

[01:46:45] The stage that my mom's at now and she's actually

[01:46:47] not as mobile

[01:46:49] as she was but for a good amount of years

[01:46:51] we would go out on daily walks

[01:46:53] and we would get

[01:46:55] those exercise and that blood flowing

[01:46:57] and would really monitor kind of

[01:46:59] how much

[01:47:01] ice creams we were having per the week

[01:47:03] and kind of those

[01:47:05] treat meals and stuff like that

[01:47:07] and I do think that

[01:47:09] my mom was

[01:47:11] started to show symptoms over 10 years ago

[01:47:13] but it's really only been within the last two years

[01:47:15] that her mobility has declined

[01:47:17] and so those years that we were

[01:47:19] trying to

[01:47:21] go out and have exercise, my mom was an avid golfer

[01:47:23] which was a great way

[01:47:25] of getting your muscles moving

[01:47:27] and moving around and stuff like that too

[01:47:29] so

[01:47:31] definitely promote that, that's a really important

[01:47:33] strategy for anyone that's trying

[01:47:35] to prevent diagnosis

[01:47:37] but also anyone that might have been diagnosed

[01:47:39] and wants to still live

[01:47:41] a really healthy and fruitful life.

[01:47:43] Right. Cindy

[01:47:45] any comments on that as well?

[01:47:47] I was going to say

[01:47:49] just stay active really

[01:47:51] it's just keeping your brain

[01:47:53] going however

[01:47:55] whether it's exercise I feel like

[01:47:57] puzzles is probably also another good way

[01:47:59] like I used to do Sudoku

[01:48:01] I should do more Sudoku

[01:48:03] whatever gets your brain working in different ways

[01:48:05] I think like Alana said

[01:48:07] that's key to staying healthy

[01:48:09] yeah

[01:48:11] okay well

[01:48:13] let's shift gears to the event coming up here

[01:48:15] so

[01:48:17] you guys have invited me

[01:48:19] to play some music which is super cool this would be my second year

[01:48:21] hosting a little bit

[01:48:23] for the show that I'm really

[01:48:25] honored to be a part of that but

[01:48:27] let's start with the basic

[01:48:29] event itself

[01:48:31] where is it going to be

[01:48:33] and how do you sign up

[01:48:35] and all that other good news

[01:48:37] yeah so most of our hikers

[01:48:39] will be up in the White Mountains of New Hampshire

[01:48:41] so the purpose

[01:48:43] of the event you know it's 48 peaks

[01:48:45] we're hiking the New Hampshire 4,000

[01:48:47] footers or 48 peaks

[01:48:49] in the month of June

[01:48:51] but at this point over the summer

[01:48:53] the main hiker celebration is on June 8th

[01:48:55] that's when most of our teams

[01:48:57] will be hiking

[01:48:59] and the primary goal is that we have

[01:49:01] one team on each of the 48 peaks

[01:49:03] so we can shine as much light

[01:49:05] as we can on Alzheimer's and dementia

[01:49:07] raise awareness and fundraise

[01:49:09] to support further research efforts

[01:49:11] and more drug discoveries

[01:49:13] like what can be like I mentioned for treatment options

[01:49:15] so in terms of

[01:49:17] how we began we've been around

[01:49:19] since 2013

[01:49:21] and the peak was born out of

[01:49:23] the Alzheimer's Association's longest day fundraiser

[01:49:25] which is

[01:49:27] a signature event over the summer

[01:49:29] it's

[01:49:31] focused around the longest day of the year

[01:49:33] the summer solstice

[01:49:35] and there was a volunteer

[01:49:37] back in 20th, very clever

[01:49:39] in 2013

[01:49:41] his wife

[01:49:43] was living with younger onset

[01:49:45] and he and his family wanted

[01:49:47] to honor her and raise funds

[01:49:49] for the Alzheimer's Association

[01:49:51] so he picked hiking as his longest day

[01:49:53] event

[01:49:55] and started his fundraiser

[01:49:57] with time it gained traction

[01:49:59] more people got involved

[01:50:01] and 48 peaks just became

[01:50:03] its own event in time

[01:50:05] so since that time

[01:50:07] in 2013 we have raised

[01:50:09] over $887,000

[01:50:11] so this year

[01:50:13] hopefully

[01:50:15] we want to get that $1 million

[01:50:17] for the next year

[01:50:19] so we're going to have a big

[01:50:21] milestone

[01:50:23] big milestone

[01:50:25] no kidding

[01:50:27] how about the peaks

[01:50:29] have you signed up teams for each of the peaks yet

[01:50:31] or are there any missing or outstanding

[01:50:33] so as of last week

[01:50:35] I believe Wildcat A was still

[01:50:37] available but there was someone

[01:50:39] I spoke to who I think will be hiking it

[01:50:41] in which case we have all 48 covered

[01:50:43] for the first round of them

[01:50:45] but we expect

[01:50:47] there to be multiple teams on each peak

[01:50:49] we just want at least one team per peak

[01:50:51] and I'm trying to remember

[01:50:53] which one is Wildcat A

[01:50:55] is that the one close to the card or HUD

[01:50:57] or the one close to Glib Boulder

[01:50:59] I don't even remember

[01:51:01] I don't know I haven't done those yet

[01:51:03] oh man you're in for a treat

[01:51:05] I've heard

[01:51:07] yeah, butt kickers for sure

[01:51:09] wow, alright so $1 million

[01:51:11] so what do you think listeners

[01:51:13] have been or what

[01:51:15] let's get there right

[01:51:17] I hope the listeners have been supportive

[01:51:19] have you noticed any impact from

[01:51:21] the podcast

[01:51:23] or anything like that

[01:51:25] we'd like to try to help out

[01:51:27] yeah no you guys have been huge

[01:51:29] I did a poll at some point on Instagram

[01:51:31] for our 48 peaks

[01:51:33] Instagram and I just asked how did you hear about us

[01:51:35] and there were a good handful

[01:51:37] that heard about us through the podcast

[01:51:39] and even someone commented

[01:51:41] on Facebook recently that they were so happy

[01:51:43] they heard about us through Slasher

[01:51:45] that we were like oh good

[01:51:47] another person

[01:51:49] oh that's super cool

[01:51:51] wow, alright great

[01:51:53] so we have the event coming up on the 8th

[01:51:55] but you don't have to necessarily

[01:51:57] hike on the 8th is that right

[01:51:59] that's right you can hike

[01:52:01] whatever works for you over the summer

[01:52:03] my team historically has hiked in like July

[01:52:05] or August this year we're actually hiking

[01:52:07] the celebration weekend which is

[01:52:09] huge we're gonna make it happen

[01:52:11] but I forgot to mention

[01:52:13] oh go ahead

[01:52:15] no I'm sorry, sorry to interrupt

[01:52:17] no no I forgot to mention

[01:52:19] you don't have to hike a 4k either

[01:52:21] we have another option called

[01:52:23] create your own if you want to hike

[01:52:25] like a 52 with the view

[01:52:27] like Mount Willard or Mount Pemi

[01:52:29] or you want to do something local

[01:52:31] like a Pondicherry hike

[01:52:33] or somewhere small like a Blue Hills

[01:52:35] go for it we've got that option too

[01:52:37] it can be inclusive and anyone who wants to hike

[01:52:39] can join us

[01:52:41] that's great you know Pondicherry is beautiful

[01:52:43] I love it out there

[01:52:45] yeah any fun stories you can tell us about

[01:52:47] of the event or just

[01:52:49] any of the hikes that stand out

[01:52:51] I've heard that one team

[01:52:53] made like a human pyramid

[01:52:55] on one of the peaks one year

[01:52:57] that looked pretty cool

[01:52:59] and another did like you know a jumping photo

[01:53:01] with the whole crew

[01:53:03] that's cool, that's great

[01:53:05] you've seen like a Black Hawk flyover

[01:53:07] or anything like that

[01:53:09] I did when my friend and I hiked

[01:53:11] Webster last year

[01:53:13] I think it was a recovery mission

[01:53:15] but I did see the black I heard then saw

[01:53:17] the Black Hawk which was

[01:53:19] pretty interesting

[01:53:21] I'll drop a line to

[01:53:23] some of my friends in the

[01:53:25] Army National Guard see if they can't do a flyover

[01:53:27] on the Hague

[01:53:29] that would be neat

[01:53:31] no promises though those guys are pretty big

[01:53:33] I think one other interesting

[01:53:35] story it's not exactly fun

[01:53:37] per se

[01:53:39] it was from the

[01:53:41] 2022 event when we had

[01:53:43] the celebration at Iron Furnace

[01:53:45] and

[01:53:47] I was running the raffles table and a hiker came up

[01:53:49] to me and was chatting with me and I asked

[01:53:51] how her hike was

[01:53:53] and she said she had hiked I believe for her mom

[01:53:55] who had passed from Alzheimer's

[01:53:57] or dementia recently

[01:53:59] before then and she had actually scattered

[01:54:01] her mom's ashes at the top of the mountain

[01:54:03] that she had hiked

[01:54:05] as like you know

[01:54:07] a nice way to remember her

[01:54:09] and honor her so that was

[01:54:11] it's not a fun story per se

[01:54:13] it was very touched my heart

[01:54:15] in a certain way that reminded me why we do this

[01:54:17] oh sure

[01:54:19] yeah that's beautiful

[01:54:21] yeah I think each year seeing the photos

[01:54:23] that come through where people holding up a banner

[01:54:25] saying who they're hiking for

[01:54:27] or just kind of like the shared camaraderie

[01:54:29] and seeing all the purple t-shirts as you

[01:54:31] we were walking up and maybe another team

[01:54:33] was coming down and you pass them

[01:54:35] or someone stops you and says oh what

[01:54:37] is the purple shirt what are you hiking for

[01:54:39] and you can kind of chat about that

[01:54:41] I think those have been like really great

[01:54:43] experiences and really memorable

[01:54:45] and something that I look forward to each year and really enjoy

[01:54:47] did that happen on pierce Alana

[01:54:49] when we did pierce

[01:54:51] I feel like someone recognized us

[01:54:53] from the podcast

[01:54:55] and like got super excited

[01:54:57] the last two years

[01:54:59] the hikes I've done have been stopped

[01:55:01] or we've seen another purple shirt team

[01:55:03] or so

[01:55:05] yeah build a small community

[01:55:07] yeah no question about it

[01:55:09] we'll have to have you on after the fact

[01:55:11] to give us the rundown on how it went

[01:55:13] how many people attended if you broke

[01:55:15] the one million mark

[01:55:17] and everything else

[01:55:19] but I do have one final question

[01:55:21] is there any way

[01:55:23] people can harden their homes

[01:55:25] and make competitive measures for loved ones

[01:55:27] that may just inadvertently

[01:55:29] walk out of the house and become lost

[01:55:31] because we see that a lot up here in New Hampshire

[01:55:33] with fishing game trying to find people

[01:55:35] and searching rescue teams having to go out

[01:55:37] to assist in those things

[01:55:39] are there any things that come to mind

[01:55:41] or could be helpful

[01:55:43] Alana it might be able to comment on this too

[01:55:45] I asked Megan

[01:55:47] our event manager about this

[01:55:49] if there were any resources from the Alzheimer's Association

[01:55:51] about like how to address this

[01:55:53] and it is tricky and it depends on your

[01:55:55] you know case by case

[01:55:57] your family situation and you know home

[01:55:59] set up even

[01:56:01] the number one resource she suggested was

[01:56:03] the helpline

[01:56:05] the 24-7 phone line to call

[01:56:07] and ask someone for advice

[01:56:09] on your specific situation and what might be best

[01:56:11] there's

[01:56:13] care consultations offered

[01:56:15] by the Alzheimer's Association that are virtual

[01:56:17] similar idea

[01:56:19] and then there's some online communities

[01:56:21] where you can ask other people

[01:56:23] in similar situations like what would you do

[01:56:25] yeah so it's too broad a question

[01:56:27] that sounds like it's helpful

[01:56:29] I think it's very specific to your case

[01:56:31] got it

[01:56:33] you can also notify

[01:56:35] I'm not sure how it's structured up in New Hampshire

[01:56:37] but you can also notify local law enforcement

[01:56:39] and just have

[01:56:41] a loved one's name and maybe a picture

[01:56:43] kind of registered with them

[01:56:45] just so it's kind of

[01:56:47] an incident should happen it may be

[01:56:49] a situation where someone wanders away

[01:56:51] but maybe there's an incident

[01:56:53] because you know someone's getting aggravated

[01:56:55] and aggressive and the

[01:56:57] first responders have to show up at that house

[01:56:59] having some sort of

[01:57:01] kind of knowledge

[01:57:03] that person has dementia or has Alzheimer's

[01:57:05] really is important

[01:57:07] and how they're responded and I know

[01:57:09] that there's more training

[01:57:11] for those

[01:57:13] EMTs and first responders and responding

[01:57:15] to someone that has Alzheimer's

[01:57:17] and dementia and kind of

[01:57:19] making sure that

[01:57:21] the situation is handled and everyone

[01:57:23] is safe and calm

[01:57:25] and responsive and so

[01:57:27] we did that with my mom

[01:57:29] and other kind of things that we did

[01:57:31] is there's different

[01:57:33] resources you might be able to find on Alzheimer's team

[01:57:35] but we had a little air tag

[01:57:37] that we put in her little pocket

[01:57:39] or her wallet kind of a little

[01:57:41] GPS tracker that I know they sell on necklaces

[01:57:43] that are similar that are kind of designed

[01:57:45] for Alzheimer's and so there's

[01:57:47] different ways of

[01:57:49] if it's something that the loved one would wear

[01:57:51] and be okay with

[01:57:53] there's different ways of putting that protection in

[01:57:55] in our house

[01:57:57] there's also different locks that you can get

[01:57:59] on doors

[01:58:01] depending on someone's knowledge or

[01:58:03] their level we installed some locks

[01:58:05] that felt like they were safe to keep her in her home

[01:58:07] other kind of ADL things

[01:58:09] that we have around our home are different

[01:58:11] grab bars in case she might fall

[01:58:13] kind of getting in and out of the shower

[01:58:15] or something

[01:58:17] you had kind of baby gates to kind of

[01:58:19] corral

[01:58:21] and different support

[01:58:23] functionality items around the house

[01:58:25] and those have all kind of really helped

[01:58:27] and she's kind of progressed and developed

[01:58:29] keeping her safe at home but also

[01:58:31] should she wander outside the home

[01:58:33] we have kind of a couple preventative measures

[01:58:35] to

[01:58:37] get in place before there's any incident

[01:58:39] that's super helpful

[01:58:41] also from the first responder side

[01:58:43] Megan made me aware

[01:58:45] of there's some upcoming first responder trainings

[01:58:47] I believe they're offered by the

[01:58:49] Alzheimer's Association virtually

[01:58:51] I'm sure she can send more info

[01:58:53] over for the show notes but

[01:58:55] they're coming up June 4th

[01:58:57] and June 26th

[01:58:59] over the summer so that first

[01:59:01] responders if they want some training on how

[01:59:03] to approach a situation

[01:59:05] or a report

[01:59:07] where there's Alzheimer's patient

[01:59:09] who has wandered or roamed

[01:59:11] how to approach that situation

[01:59:13] the best they can

[01:59:15] that's super helpful

[01:59:17] we have all the contact information

[01:59:19] helpline numbers websites all that good stuff

[01:59:21] oh yeah all the good stuff

[01:59:23] so

[01:59:25] the national Alzheimer's website is

[01:59:27] ALZ.org

[01:59:29] you can find all the resources there that

[01:59:31] we've mentioned

[01:59:33] the helpline is 1-800-272-3900

[01:59:35] it's 247

[01:59:37] and

[01:59:39] for 48 peaks our website is

[01:59:41] ALZ.org

[01:59:43] slash 48 peaks

[01:59:45] you can find us on instagram which is

[01:59:47] 48 peaks ALZ

[01:59:49] and we're also on facebook

[01:59:51] so you can find us there

[01:59:53] and one thing I forgot to mention is we do have a

[01:59:55] sponsorship program so if you know a company

[01:59:57] or people who might want to sponsor a peak

[01:59:59] reach out to our event manager

[02:00:01] Megan O'Neill

[02:00:03] and she can talk to you about what offerings we have

[02:00:05] I think I got everything

[02:00:07] did I miss anything Alana?

[02:00:09] no I think you got it all definitely

[02:00:11] a shout out for our social media

[02:00:13] if you don't follow it it's definitely

[02:00:15] it shares a lot of tips and resources

[02:00:17] but also shares a lot of fun about

[02:00:19] some of the events that are happening and how you can get involved

[02:00:21] if you're interested

[02:00:23] we also have a volunteer info session

[02:00:25] next week and it's on

[02:00:27] social if you're interested in volunteering

[02:00:29] with 48 peaks in some way

[02:00:31] I'll be presenting with Megan

[02:00:33] so you can get to hear from me again

[02:00:37] well we'll keep on

[02:00:39] plugging the event and spreading

[02:00:41] the word and I thank both of you

[02:00:43] for coming on Cindy and Alana

[02:00:45] I wish you the best and you two

[02:00:47] are great representatives of

[02:00:49] the organization for sure so thank you

[02:00:51] thank you Stom

[02:00:53] we appreciate your and Mike's support

[02:00:55] over the last two years

[02:00:57] it's been two years since we were first on

[02:00:59] Mike who?

[02:01:01] I don't know

[02:01:03] can we give Dave

[02:01:05] the hike of the week

[02:01:07] because he's not here

[02:01:09] actually we did that

[02:01:11] you're gonna laugh your head off it's so silly

[02:01:13] oh good

[02:01:17] alright so there it is

[02:01:19] 48 peaks coming up soon

[02:01:21] you can check out

[02:01:23] all the information will be in the show notes

[02:01:27] at slash your podcast dot com

[02:01:29] and again it's alts.org

[02:01:31] or alts.org

[02:01:33] right slash 48 peaks

[02:01:59] all right

[02:02:13] so this week guys I have a couple

[02:02:15] search and rescue here

[02:02:17] wasn't much there's like literally

[02:02:19] been nothing up here that's good

[02:02:21] yeah it's phenomenal

[02:02:23] the last one I was on was Welch Dickie

[02:02:25] that was it

[02:02:27] Welch Dickie?

[02:02:29] no wait a minute it was one after that

[02:02:31] you've been on a bunch

[02:02:33] the first one here is California Hiker

[02:02:35] you've probably seen this video

[02:02:37] but Hiker speaks out after being rescued

[02:02:39] from California Cliff

[02:02:41] have you seen the video of this one at all?

[02:02:43] I haven't

[02:02:45] alright well check it out

[02:02:47] a hiker who was stranded on the side of a cliff

[02:02:49] in San Francisco Bay area is speaking out

[02:02:51] telling his account

[02:02:53] and he says

[02:02:55] what was the beer crack it's all good

[02:02:57] I've been waiting

[02:02:59] this guy is cracking the beer

[02:03:01] we're on the home stretch right now

[02:03:05] I'm a notable hiker I do what I want

[02:03:07] that's right

[02:03:09] open invite anytime you can just barge in

[02:03:11] and jump on a mic

[02:03:13] so yeah check this out so I decided to

[02:03:15] climb the cliff you know be brave be adventurous

[02:03:17] and so I started climbing

[02:03:19] and about 40-50 feet up I got to a spar

[02:03:21] where all the rocks started crumbling

[02:03:23] and like

[02:03:25] every rock that I grabbed just gets removed from the cliff

[02:03:27] Crotini's girlfriend

[02:03:29] rushed to get help as the 22 year old

[02:03:31] man became trapped dangling more than

[02:03:33] 50 feet above the Pacific Ocean

[02:03:35] wow yeah it's pretty hard course

[02:03:37] so there's an actual video to it

[02:03:39] and they dropped a couple

[02:03:41] search and rescue members out of

[02:03:43] a helicopter and they

[02:03:45] got a harness on him and saved his butt

[02:03:47] but he said that he

[02:03:49] could barely hold on

[02:03:51] and he was about to let go

[02:03:53] but thankfully

[02:03:55] they got the harness and got him out

[02:03:57] to safety so these are the two rest guys here

[02:03:59] wow that's incredible

[02:04:01] yeah yeah and when they got to him

[02:04:03] they were just yelling at him do not let go

[02:04:05] do not let go

[02:04:07] unbelievable

[02:04:09] so another cliff fall here

[02:04:11] so Bryce Kinney and Hiker dies after falling

[02:04:13] at Utah park

[02:04:15] the husband of Florida

[02:04:17] oh this is bizarre it's a politician

[02:04:19] the husband of Florida's senate president

[02:04:21] died after falling while

[02:04:23] a couple was hiking in Utah

[02:04:25] anytime someone dies

[02:04:27] in his politics

[02:04:29] we know just before that red dog was on her forehead

[02:04:35] so John Pasadomo

[02:04:37] 72 was

[02:04:39] past tense a lawyer and former city

[02:04:41] counselor and vice mayor

[02:04:43] of Naples he and senate

[02:04:45] president Kathleen Pasadomo

[02:04:47] a Republican were visiting national parks

[02:04:49] on vacation less than

[02:04:51] a month after the Florida blah blah blah blah

[02:04:53] blah blah blah blah they went to Utah

[02:04:55] and

[02:04:57] oh my god it's getting into like there

[02:04:59] oh here we go here's the details so

[02:05:01] they were celebrating their 45th anniversary

[02:05:03] hiking in Bryce Canyon National Park

[02:05:05] when John fell Monday and suffered

[02:05:07] a head injury amongst other injuries

[02:05:09] and ultimately

[02:05:11] passed so it's a

[02:05:13] yeah yeah that's

[02:05:15] doesn't really give much more for detail

[02:05:17] there but if you can look at this picture

[02:05:19] I mean that's pretty stunning these

[02:05:21] that's beautiful I've been to Zion Canyon

[02:05:23] and Grand Canyon and stuff

[02:05:25] yeah I've seen that

[02:05:27] you went to Bryce? Bryce Zion

[02:05:29] oh wow Bryce near Zion

[02:05:31] it's fairly close

[02:05:33] it's like New Mexico

[02:05:35] everything's near each other

[02:05:37] if you can drive for 5 hours

[02:05:39] it's gorgeous area it's absolutely stunning

[02:05:41] we did

[02:05:43] no we didn't do Bryce it was just this

[02:05:45] Zion but it was similar

[02:05:47] similar yeah

[02:05:49] we had horses in Bryce which was a terrible idea

[02:05:51] oh really?

[02:05:53] for me it was

[02:05:55] you went down on horse?

[02:05:57] that's how rumors started

[02:05:59] I did not

[02:06:03] let's just be clear about that

[02:06:05] no no we gotta be clear

[02:06:07] my mind wanded

[02:06:09] he wanted to and I said nay

[02:06:11] I love this guy

[02:06:13] so no we did it for

[02:06:15] a honeymoon back in the late 90s

[02:06:17] let's go way back

[02:06:19] and we rented and it was just

[02:06:21] like just help

[02:06:23] it was like give me an ATV or something

[02:06:25] like that thing just craps and goes where it's

[02:06:27] what are we doing?

[02:06:29] you see turds all over the ground

[02:06:31] I didn't see any donkey well jackasses

[02:06:33] they climb up when they go up

[02:06:35] we were coming down we were doing a little bit

[02:06:37] not all the way down and their legs will slide

[02:06:39] off like they have four

[02:06:41] but literally just the

[02:06:43] ass end

[02:06:45] the leg will go off and you're just like

[02:06:47] what? and they just keep going

[02:06:49] well that's a horse and fun fact they use jackass

[02:06:51] as a Grand Canyon

[02:06:53] because it's the most short footed animal

[02:06:55] on the planet that's why they don't use horses

[02:06:57] really?

[02:06:59] interesting that and rams are tough to ride

[02:07:01] the goats

[02:07:03] the big bone goats

[02:07:05] they're a bitch to get on

[02:07:09] oh man

[02:07:11] this is good

[02:07:13] we checked out Antelope Canyon that was cool

[02:07:15] you ever see that? no I don't know what that is

[02:07:17] underground canyon it's pretty wild

[02:07:19] yeah we did that years ago and then we did

[02:07:21] Horseshoe Bend that was pretty

[02:07:23] we had to run down there before we had the sunset

[02:07:25] 6 million people

[02:07:27] even Zion was packed I bet you when you went

[02:07:29] it wasn't as busy it wasn't

[02:07:31] now you can't even breathe

[02:07:33] it was insane we think about it now

[02:07:35] you have to register to go there

[02:07:37] we kind of had to run to the place to some degree

[02:07:39] you're not going to have a run of any park

[02:07:41] no national park

[02:07:43] it's slammed

[02:07:45] but still beautiful

[02:07:47] it felt more personable at Zion

[02:07:49] because it was obviously small in the Grand Canyon

[02:07:51] but just to see the Grand Canyon

[02:07:53] was amazing

[02:07:55] but we did hike into it a little bit

[02:07:57] but I still want to go back and do rim to rim

[02:07:59] it depends on the rim you're wrong

[02:08:01] the north rim is the one that's not as populated

[02:08:03] it can be but that's where you have the skunk wipes

[02:08:05] they come in handy when you're hiking

[02:08:07] especially when you're hiking 20 something miles

[02:08:09] in that heat

[02:08:11] just for the rim

[02:08:13] but I don't know

[02:08:15] I don't understand

[02:08:17] he's laughing

[02:08:19] I'm very uncomfortable

[02:08:21] again do you want to go on the couch

[02:08:23] and we can talk about this

[02:08:25] for the viewers that can't see this

[02:08:27] it literally looks like a psychiatrist

[02:08:29] no it's got Freud written all over it

[02:08:31] did I tell you when Lynn came home

[02:08:33] last night and she actually freaking

[02:08:35] macramed a what do you want to

[02:08:37] oh I wish she was here

[02:08:39] she made me a little blanket to hang out

[02:08:41] while I'm watching TV I called little Lynn

[02:08:43] she did

[02:08:45] she crocheted me a blanket

[02:08:47] so you got to throw that in the back window of the car

[02:08:49] let me tell you about my grandchildren

[02:08:51] a box of tissues in the back

[02:08:53] they always have tissues

[02:08:55] but never in reach

[02:08:57] unless they're friends

[02:08:59] like my grandmother they always had them in her sleeve

[02:09:01] and her backpack and tissues

[02:09:03] and little hard candies

[02:09:05] we used to gamble for the candies

[02:09:07] we played cards for the candies

[02:09:09] does Lynn come here with treats and tributes

[02:09:11] and all these things

[02:09:13] every time she comes over

[02:09:15] she's got little things

[02:09:17] and treats and little ornaments

[02:09:19] and stickers

[02:09:21] she's always given stuff

[02:09:23] she's a walking geocache

[02:09:25] you don't get a better human than that

[02:09:27] she's awesome

[02:09:29] just a few

[02:09:31] she doesn't have a quilt like that

[02:09:33] no but I have a granny afghan now

[02:09:35] I can put over my legs when I'm watching them

[02:09:37] just so you know

[02:09:39] my grandmother did make that

[02:09:41] that's called a granny afghan

[02:09:43] isn't that wild

[02:09:45] that's old

[02:09:47] that is so old

[02:09:49] I was just a little wee little guy

[02:09:51] is the design

[02:09:53] they all made the same shit back

[02:09:55] isn't that funny

[02:09:57] the beauty of that is

[02:09:59] your toes don't go through the holes

[02:10:01] because the ones when they're learning at first

[02:10:03] your toes stick through it

[02:10:05] it's like you feel like a mackerel

[02:10:07] when they're out at sea in this process

[02:10:09] the cats love it

[02:10:11] the cats just like oh man

[02:10:13] they love it

[02:10:15] that thing right there probably took a week to make

[02:10:17] who knows

[02:10:19] that's at least six prices right

[02:10:21] remember that

[02:10:23] yo the next contestant on the price

[02:10:25] they would say come on down

[02:10:27] my grandmother would knit and just watch the shows

[02:10:29] TV was so

[02:10:31] we all the same age we grew up on Sanford and Sun

[02:10:33] and the prices right

[02:10:35] remember the gong show

[02:10:37] remember that guy with the bag over his head

[02:10:39] that's how I feel

[02:10:41] yeah he was cool man

[02:10:43] we grew up with the best stuff

[02:10:45] Hollywood squares

[02:10:47] what was the guy

[02:10:49] that controlled that dummy

[02:10:51] the ventriloquist

[02:10:53] remember there was madams

[02:10:55] madams

[02:10:57] we had his name

[02:10:59] remember that she was always on this

[02:11:01] that guy was funny she was funny

[02:11:03] yeah that was a funny show man

[02:11:05] I'm sold you had to buy stuff on Wheel of Fortune

[02:11:07] really?

[02:11:09] you had to get money and then shop after you run around

[02:11:11] you don't remember that?

[02:11:13] no wait

[02:11:15] I may look young but I'm an old man

[02:11:17] I'm not as old as I look

[02:11:19] I just did some hard living

[02:11:21] you would get the money

[02:11:23] and then they would take you on the street

[02:11:25] I'll take the roller-serts for $70

[02:11:27] because it was California and then they would go through

[02:11:29] and you had to spend the money you bought

[02:11:31] really? that's wild

[02:11:33] but if you go back in the

[02:11:35] 70s

[02:11:37] alright so I am older than you

[02:11:39] but if you go back in the 70s

[02:11:41] you look at some of the gifts years ago

[02:11:43] it was

[02:11:45] you know what I mean like the old chavette

[02:11:47] they give a car away it was a chavette

[02:11:49] I saw this podcast

[02:11:51] but what the hell is a chavette

[02:11:53] I was going to know

[02:11:55] search and rescue

[02:11:57] people needed to get out of

[02:11:59] Pinto's

[02:12:01] they would blow up

[02:12:03] they were hitting the back

[02:12:05] life was good

[02:12:07] we had station wagons with seats

[02:12:09] we had a seat belt

[02:12:11] metal child seats

[02:12:13] baby seats

[02:12:15] and we turned out completely

[02:12:17] fine

[02:12:19] we didn't wear helmets

[02:12:21] we flipped over the handlebars

[02:12:23] busted your face up

[02:12:25] your mother would be like

[02:12:27] that's what my mother did

[02:12:29] you go outside and be gone all day long

[02:12:31] remember put your play clothes on

[02:12:33] and get outside

[02:12:35] now they come home and just get in the video game room

[02:12:37] we didn't have a Atari though

[02:12:39] we made mosquito sick

[02:12:41] we didn't make us

[02:12:43] wash my hands take a shower

[02:12:45] fly up into the tree dummy

[02:12:47] it was different times

[02:12:49] you drink so much you crap green for three days

[02:12:51] oh my god mom I'm dying

[02:12:53] what happened huh

[02:12:55] yeah it's a whole different world right now

[02:12:57] it is changed

[02:12:59] scary

[02:13:01] I don't even want to talk about search and rescue anymore this is too funny

[02:13:03] alright well the last one here

[02:13:05] if you could try to stand topics

[02:13:07] that'd be great

[02:13:09] come on dude I'll go let us ruin this

[02:13:11] there's the last one

[02:13:13] I guess so hiker found dehydrated

[02:13:15] and under the influence rescued after falling

[02:13:17] into a ravine

[02:13:19] in Palm Springs

[02:13:21] Palm Springs

[02:13:23] Canyon Drive so this is California

[02:13:25] and this is pretty generic

[02:13:27] I mean

[02:13:29] literally that's the story but the reason I bring it up

[02:13:31] is because there's

[02:13:33] one comment

[02:13:35] right there

[02:13:37] I pulled this up a week ago and this comment

[02:13:39] you can see it somebody named

[02:13:41] concerned wrote

[02:13:43] drunk hiking

[02:13:45] that's it

[02:13:47] that's it

[02:13:49] that's the only comment

[02:13:51] I don't think that's his real name

[02:13:53] yeah concerned

[02:13:55] doesn't seem too concerned

[02:13:57] now you should only do that in a kayak

[02:13:59] and snow you should not hike

[02:14:01] it's PSA from a notable hiker right here

[02:14:03] you definitely don't want to hike drunk

[02:14:05] it's a bad thing

[02:14:07] no what I used to do before I can see this guy is ATV

[02:14:09] you can't get a DUI here in the woods

[02:14:11] who's going to bust you in the woods

[02:14:13] I was smartin' him at every turn

[02:14:15] we ran from the EPA one time

[02:14:17] it was like 10, 8 tip me

[02:14:19] my brother's a bunch of people I had my wife

[02:14:21] at the time she was before I married her

[02:14:23] she was speaking to Russian

[02:14:25] she was a Russian from Belarus

[02:14:27] she was illegal so we couldn't get stopped

[02:14:29] but we came up over in a bank

[02:14:31] we crossed 495 cops

[02:14:33] it was like midnight we were all ham and we had

[02:14:35] I used to have a cooler for food

[02:14:37] I used to have a cooler for my whiskey

[02:14:39] my ice and my own little glass

[02:14:41] so we used to get ham and out in the woods

[02:14:43] we'd ride all night we had trails everywhere

[02:14:45] but the little EPA cops were trying to find us

[02:14:47] as soon as we came up over the highway

[02:14:49] they were trying to grab us

[02:14:51] we were trying to get away from

[02:14:53] we got away

[02:14:55] that's before hiking years ago

[02:14:57] back in my hellion days

[02:14:59] now you're cleaning this over

[02:15:01] I drank a little not much

[02:15:03] I'm not a big fan

[02:15:05] so that's all I got for you guys

[02:15:07] Dave congratulations

[02:15:09] on your stunning victory tonight

[02:15:11] the noble hike

[02:15:13] the sky shagging up and glowing

[02:15:15] seriously that's huge

[02:15:17] it's big

[02:15:19] I didn't see that one coming

[02:15:21] I'm gonna sell all my stuff now I'm done

[02:15:23] I don't have to photoshop anymore

[02:15:25] hikes or anything

[02:15:27] that's an idea

[02:15:29] it takes forever to take the stock photo images off

[02:15:31] you know get that

[02:15:33] that cleaned off of you man

[02:15:35] that is so good

[02:15:37] my imaginary friend Liz Faye

[02:15:39] just kidding Liz

[02:15:41] Liz is a beast she's a phenomenal hiker

[02:15:43] great hiking partner

[02:15:45] I don't think I know Liz

[02:15:47] alright man and Eric

[02:15:49] thank you very much for coming by

[02:15:51] thank you for having me on it was a pleasure

[02:15:53] you guys are great we'll definitely do this again for sure

[02:15:55] I don't think you'll be allowed but I'm just saying

[02:15:57] pirate radio is the best

[02:15:59] yeah so that'll do it for

[02:16:01] episode 147

[02:16:03] until next time

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[02:16:45] until then on behalf of Mike and Stomp

[02:16:47] get out there

[02:16:49] and crush some

[02:16:51] mega

[02:16:53] peace

[02:17:01] fishing game officers say the hiker from Florida

[02:17:04] activated an emergency

[02:17:06] in yesterday morning

[02:17:08] he was hiking along the Appalachian trail

[02:17:10] when the weather started to get worse

[02:17:12] officials say the snow was piled up

[02:17:14] to three feet in some spots

[02:17:16] and there was a wind chill of minus one degree

[02:17:19] well there's three words to describe this race

[02:17:22] do we all know what they are?

[02:17:24] only one help

[02:17:26] we're Lieutenant James Nealott

[02:17:28] New Hampshire fishing game

[02:17:29] thanks for being with us today

[02:17:31] thanks for having me

[02:17:33] what are some of the most common mistakes

[02:17:35] you see people make when they're heading out on the trails to hike here in New Hampshire?

[02:17:37] seems to me the most common is being unprepared

[02:17:39] I think if they just simply visited

[02:17:41] hikesafe.com

[02:17:43] and got a list of the ten essential items

[02:17:45] and had those in their packs

[02:17:47] they probably would have no need to ever call us

[02:17:49] at all

[02:17:59] you