Episode 166 - Welcome Jeez Louise Hoops, Planning for Fall Foliage, Recent hikes - The Watcher and Skookumchuck Trail

[00:00:00] [SPEAKER_11]: A pair of hikers from Rhode Island have been rescued after getting stuck in treacherous terrain on Mount Washington.

[00:00:06] [SPEAKER_11]: At least one hiker expressed they were feeling symptoms of hypothermia.

[00:00:11] [SPEAKER_11]: Officials tell us the hikers were brought to safety around 10 p.m.

[00:00:15] [SPEAKER_11]: And thankfully, there were no injuries.

[00:00:18] [SPEAKER_07]: This was no drill, but a real life emergency deep in the White Mountains.

[00:00:33] [SPEAKER_12]: Broadcasting from the Woodpecker Studio in the live free or die state of New Hampshire.

[00:00:39] [SPEAKER_12]: Welcome to the Sounds Like A Search And Rescue Podcast.

[00:00:44] [SPEAKER_12]: Where we discuss all things related to hiking and search and rescue in the White Mountains of New Hampshire.

[00:00:51] [SPEAKER_12]: Occasionally including the counties of Belknap, I mean Belknap, um, something like that.

[00:01:00] [SPEAKER_12]: And Cooscoos, wait, or is it Coos County?

[00:01:05] [SPEAKER_12]: Whatever! Here are your hosts Mike and Stump.

[00:01:12] [SPEAKER_05]: Okay, this is episode 166, let's get down to brass tacks.

[00:01:16] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, 166, any good references with that number?

[00:01:20] [SPEAKER_05]: Uh, no good references, but I do want to apologize for being a little bit late here.

[00:01:26] [SPEAKER_05]: I was down in a rabbit hole.

[00:01:30] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh yeah? What kind of rabbit hole?

[00:01:33] [SPEAKER_05]: Well, I was trying to dig up some history on the Watcher.

[00:01:36] [SPEAKER_05]: Oh.

[00:01:37] [SPEAKER_05]: I was going to talk about that and I was reading some things I have about the history of the Watcher.

[00:01:43] [SPEAKER_05]: And it first appears in a guidebook in 1876, the Osgoode White Mountains Guidebook.

[00:01:51] [SPEAKER_05]: They talk about the Watcher and there's another profile called the Infant.

[00:01:57] [SPEAKER_05]: And a couple of other ones that I got to dig into to figure out.

[00:02:00] [SPEAKER_05]: But it's a pretty, so then I clicked on a link and I was able to find the guidebook.

[00:02:04] [SPEAKER_05]: It's in like digital common, so you can actually, so I started reading the whole guidebook.

[00:02:08] [SPEAKER_05]: And they're talking about like the history of the names and they're talking about how like.

[00:02:11] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

[00:02:13] [SPEAKER_05]: One historian talked about the entirety of the White Mountains and called it Ajiaguchuk.

[00:02:20] [SPEAKER_05]: I can't say that word.

[00:02:22] [SPEAKER_05]: So he called the entirety of the White Mountains that.

[00:02:25] [SPEAKER_05]: And then there was a few other people that had different versions of Wombak, different spellings of Wombak,

[00:02:31] [SPEAKER_05]: which essentially means like white, supposedly.

[00:02:35] [SPEAKER_05]: And then I was reading about how the White Mountains were actually first referenced by a couple of sailors in like the 1500s.

[00:02:43] [SPEAKER_05]: They spotted the mountains and it makes sense why they call them White Mountains because they could see them from the ocean.

[00:02:49] [SPEAKER_05]: And probably in the spring, I would guess they would see them and they would still have be snow covered.

[00:02:55] [SPEAKER_05]: So I think that's probably why they were like, oh yeah, those big white hills out there.

[00:02:59] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

[00:03:00] [SPEAKER_05]: But then anyway, I started looking and I was like, well, Osgoode White Mountains Guide.

[00:03:03] [SPEAKER_05]: Is this the Osgoode that wrote this book?

[00:03:09] [SPEAKER_05]: Is he the one who the Osgoode Trail and the Osgoode Tent Site is named after?

[00:03:16] [SPEAKER_05]: And then I was looking and it's actually the publisher is a different Osgoode than the Osgoode that had the tent site and the trail named after him.

[00:03:29] [SPEAKER_05]: And that Osgoode is like a local guide and he had, I guess, been involved in just like some of the early tourism.

[00:03:40] [SPEAKER_05]: So different guy.

[00:03:41] [SPEAKER_05]: But that's what happens, Stump.

[00:03:43] [SPEAKER_05]: Once you start digging, you start looking at names and you go, you end up all over the place.

[00:03:47] [SPEAKER_03]: Right.

[00:03:48] [SPEAKER_03]: So are you going to reveal this at some point in the future about the Watcher?

[00:03:53] [SPEAKER_05]: Well, I mean, I'm going to talk about it.

[00:03:55] [SPEAKER_05]: We did a hike today.

[00:03:55] [SPEAKER_05]: So that was it.

[00:03:56] [SPEAKER_05]: And I was like, well, maybe I can do a little history segment on it.

[00:03:59] [SPEAKER_05]: So I was just looking for a little bit of a background, but I didn't get much other than the first mention of it was 1876.

[00:04:08] [SPEAKER_05]: But we'll talk about it in more detail.

[00:04:09] [SPEAKER_05]: But Benjamin Osgoode is a famous guide that worked at the Glen House in the late 1800s.

[00:04:17] [SPEAKER_05]: And he was the one that opened the path leading to the Glen House to Mount Madison.

[00:04:24] [SPEAKER_05]: So that's ultimately like the approach, the Osgoode path, the Osgoode Cutoff.

[00:04:30] [SPEAKER_05]: Right.

[00:04:31] [SPEAKER_05]: Anyway, so you just might mind wander, Stump, when I start thinking about this stuff.

[00:04:36] [SPEAKER_03]: Well, you have all this time on your hands now too.

[00:04:39] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[00:04:39] [SPEAKER_03]: Deep exploring.

[00:04:41] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

[00:04:41] [SPEAKER_05]: And that's the other thing is I'm supposed to be upstairs with the girls watching below deck and they interrupted.

[00:04:49] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[00:04:50] [SPEAKER_03]: And why did we have to jumble up the schedule this week?

[00:04:53] [SPEAKER_05]: Because I have gum surgery and I forgot that I wasn't going to be able to talk tomorrow night.

[00:05:02] [SPEAKER_05]: So we're on a Wednesday night recording.

[00:05:04] [SPEAKER_05]: We have a guest that we'll talk about in a minute that's coming in.

[00:05:08] [SPEAKER_05]: And I just was sitting in my desk yesterday and I realized I was like, wait a minute, I can't record on Thursday night because I'm getting this gums.

[00:05:16] [SPEAKER_05]: Have you ever got the stunt stomp, the gum surgery?

[00:05:20] [SPEAKER_03]: No.

[00:05:20] [SPEAKER_03]: What are they doing exactly?

[00:05:21] [SPEAKER_05]: It's called gum grafting.

[00:05:23] [SPEAKER_05]: So they'll, they peel a chunk of skin off the roof of your mouth and they then graft it on to the side of your gums so that it protects the roots of your teeth.

[00:05:37] [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, so they're receding?

[00:05:38] [SPEAKER_05]: They're receding. Yeah, my gums are receding.

[00:05:41] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, they get super sensitive.

[00:05:43] [SPEAKER_03]: Mine are sort of doing that as well a little bit.

[00:05:46] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, well, get ready.

[00:05:47] [SPEAKER_03]: No, I have not had that done, but it can be really uncomfortable when they start getting lower.

[00:05:50] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I've had it done before probably five, six years ago and one of them didn't take.

[00:05:55] [SPEAKER_05]: So we're going back in to try to do that section again.

[00:05:59] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, wow, interesting.

[00:06:00] [SPEAKER_03]: This shouldn't be happening to a 20 year older.

[00:06:03] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, exactly.

[00:06:04] [SPEAKER_02]: I agree.

[00:06:05] [SPEAKER_02]: That's a good point.

[00:06:06] [SPEAKER_02]: We don't want to give away our age here, Mike.

[00:06:08] [SPEAKER_05]: I think anybody that has a brain knows that we're, you know, north of 50 at this point.

[00:06:15] [SPEAKER_03]: Well, good luck.

[00:06:16] [SPEAKER_03]: We came up with some good trail names for you.

[00:06:18] [SPEAKER_03]: We have Forest Gums.

[00:06:21] [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, I like that.

[00:06:23] [SPEAKER_03]: That's a good one.

[00:06:24] [SPEAKER_03]: We have Gummy Bear.

[00:06:26] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that's okay.

[00:06:28] [SPEAKER_03]: It's all right.

[00:06:28] [SPEAKER_03]: And then my favorite is Shamim De Gumz.

[00:06:32] [SPEAKER_06]: That's a good one.

[00:06:33] [SPEAKER_06]: Shamim De Gumz.

[00:06:37] [SPEAKER_02]: Well, good luck.

[00:06:38] [SPEAKER_02]: Hopefully you survive.

[00:06:40] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I think if I recall the last time it was tough to speak the first day or so and then after that it's just like uncomfortable.

[00:06:50] [SPEAKER_05]: You know, you have stitches in your mouth and stuff.

[00:06:54] [SPEAKER_05]: So we'll see how it goes.

[00:06:55] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, no biggie.

[00:06:59] [SPEAKER_06]: Perico Dental in Redding.

[00:07:00] [SPEAKER_06]: So I'm putting their name out here so they better do a good job just in case somebody listens.

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[00:07:09] [SPEAKER_06]: Oh God.

[00:07:11] [SPEAKER_03]: For the older demographic.

[00:07:12] [SPEAKER_06]: Yes, yeah.

[00:07:14] [SPEAKER_06]: All right, so welcome to episode 166.

[00:07:17] [SPEAKER_05]: This week we are joined by the fun and fabulous Gies Louise.

[00:07:23] [SPEAKER_05]: Gies Louise is a well-traveled hiker and social media hiker content maker known for her exploits with hula hoops while on Mountain Summit.

[00:07:33] [SPEAKER_05]: So Stomp is honored to be joined by her this week to discuss her background and we'll learn about the history of hula hooping and find out what made Gies Louise pick up this unique hobby.

[00:07:47] [SPEAKER_05]: Plus we've got animal attack news.

[00:07:49] [SPEAKER_05]: We've got full conditions is returning this fall.

[00:07:51] [SPEAKER_05]: We're going to do a segment about fall foliage hiking so you can plan as a hiker or a tourist and we want everyone to get ready for leaf peeping.

[00:08:02] [SPEAKER_05]: We've got recent hikes on the I did the Watcher with a crew and then Stomp could have joined me but chose to not join me so that he could go off with.

[00:08:14] [SPEAKER_05]: Who did you go with?

[00:08:16] [SPEAKER_05]: Nobby.

[00:08:17] [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, you went with Nobby.

[00:08:17] [SPEAKER_05]: All right, so you went off with Nobby on your own little adventure on Skookum Chow.

[00:08:23] [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, you had the dog with you.

[00:08:25] [SPEAKER_05]: Right, right.

[00:08:26] [SPEAKER_05]: All right, the dog's not going to want to do Watcher.

[00:08:29] [SPEAKER_05]: The Watcher I don't think.

[00:08:30] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I'll touch upon that.

[00:08:32] [SPEAKER_05]: Okay, and then notable hikes in recent search and rescue news.

[00:08:35] [SPEAKER_05]: We got a whole bunch of recent search and rescue news this week.

[00:08:38] [SPEAKER_05]: So we'll get into that.

[00:08:40] [SPEAKER_05]: I'm Mike, the gum guy.

[00:08:42] [SPEAKER_05]: And I'm Stomp.

[00:08:45] [SPEAKER_02]: Let's get started.

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[00:10:36] [SPEAKER_05]: All right, Stomp. What do you think?

[00:10:38] [SPEAKER_03]: That was great. Great tips.

[00:10:40] [SPEAKER_02]: Yes. Do you feel safer?

[00:10:43] [SPEAKER_03]: I do. Oh, those tips are awesome. Yeah.

[00:10:45] [SPEAKER_03]: And I hear from Christina that listeners have been signing up for her programs and that is fantastic.

[00:10:52] [SPEAKER_03]: She's probably one of the best in the region.

[00:10:55] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I've been peeping her on social media and she's been doing some, she's been posting some cool photos.

[00:11:01] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. So thanks to the listeners for signing up for Christina's awesome training and coaching.

[00:11:10] [SPEAKER_05]: Very good, Stomp. So we're a little light on the articles this week just because we've been running long and we didn't go too crazy.

[00:11:20] [SPEAKER_05]: So anyway, the first one we have here, we're always looking, we're always paying attention to whenever animals attack humans.

[00:11:26] [SPEAKER_05]: We're very interested in that, Stomp.

[00:11:28] [SPEAKER_05]: Oh yeah. I'm just thankful it doesn't happen around here.

[00:11:30] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, it's become our thing a little bit, right?

[00:11:35] [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, we love it. Especially when little kids are involved.

[00:11:38] [SPEAKER_05]: Right. Yep. So, you know, especially by the time they're five years old, they start getting expensive.

[00:11:43] [SPEAKER_05]: So it's not a bad thing to see them getting smacked with reality, I guess is the way to say that.

[00:11:52] [SPEAKER_05]: Am I going to get canceled for this?

[00:11:54] [SPEAKER_05]: Where are you going with this?

[00:11:55] [SPEAKER_05]: I don't know. I don't know. I'm going to get canceled. I apologize.

[00:11:58] [SPEAKER_05]: So, no, seriously, a five-year-old boy was attacked by a mountain lion.

[00:12:02] [SPEAKER_05]: This is horrifying in all seriousness.

[00:12:05] [SPEAKER_05]: A five-year-old attacked by a mountain lion during a Labor Day family outing to Malibu Creek State Park near Los Angeles.

[00:12:12] [SPEAKER_05]: So multiple witnesses saw this attack.

[00:12:16] [SPEAKER_05]: Family's Labor Day picnic turned into a terrifying ordeal when a mountain lion attacked a five-year-old and tried to drag him into the woods.

[00:12:25] [SPEAKER_05]: Brazen attack unfolded at like 4.30 local time, about 30 miles northwest of downtown LA,

[00:12:32] [SPEAKER_05]: and left the child with significant but non-life-threatening injuries, according to a statement from California Department of Fish and Wildlife.

[00:12:40] [SPEAKER_05]: So six adults, a few kids are hanging out having a picnic.

[00:12:44] [SPEAKER_05]: Kids are running off and then like out of nowhere, a mountain lion comes and apparently attacked the boy.

[00:12:53] [SPEAKER_05]: Started to try to drag the boy into the woods here.

[00:13:00] [SPEAKER_05]: And so the kid suffered bite and scratch wounds and was airlifted to Northridge Medical Center where he was treated.

[00:13:09] [SPEAKER_05]: I guess he's released now.

[00:13:11] [SPEAKER_05]: So they were just playing around the family picnic table when the mountain lion attacked.

[00:13:15] [SPEAKER_05]: So a couple of the adults did charge at the lion and it luckily got scared and released the boy.

[00:13:19] [SPEAKER_05]: So I think that's the takeaway here is if somebody is attacked, especially a little kid,

[00:13:24] [SPEAKER_05]: I mean you just got to go all out because you can't let the mountain lion get away with the kid.

[00:13:29] [SPEAKER_03]: Absolutely. Yeah, absolutely.

[00:13:31] [SPEAKER_03]: So the cat was casing the place. It climbed up a tree and was casing the place and ultimately they had to euthanize the animal.

[00:13:38] [SPEAKER_03]: They shot it and this comes on the heels of another 21-year-old that was killed by a cougar and his 18-year-old in May.

[00:13:48] [SPEAKER_03]: So that's pretty odd.

[00:13:50] [SPEAKER_03]: So it's the first fatal mountain lion attack in the state in 20 years.

[00:13:56] [SPEAKER_03]: Crazy.

[00:13:57] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it's weird stuff going on out there but again thankfully we don't have to really worry about things like that out here.

[00:14:05] [SPEAKER_05]: I had a run-in with a wild animal this morning, Stomp.

[00:14:10] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah? What kind of animal?

[00:14:11] [SPEAKER_05]: A raccoon.

[00:14:13] [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, while you were running?

[00:14:15] [SPEAKER_05]: I was trail running on Whittier Hill in Amesbury, my morning run.

[00:14:20] [SPEAKER_05]: And a raccoon walked right out in front of me and I think that I scared the crap out of him and he scared the crap out of me.

[00:14:26] [SPEAKER_05]: He ran right up a tree and then he froze and I froze.

[00:14:32] [SPEAKER_03]: Raccoons can be vicious.

[00:14:34] [SPEAKER_03]: They can.

[00:14:35] [SPEAKER_03]: Hell yeah.

[00:14:35] [SPEAKER_03]: They can.

[00:14:35] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh yeah.

[00:14:37] [SPEAKER_05]: Matter of fact, I got a photo of the little guy.

[00:14:42] [SPEAKER_05]: You can kind of see through the... it's not really...

[00:14:45] [SPEAKER_05]: Oh okay, I see him.

[00:14:47] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, on the side there.

[00:14:49] [SPEAKER_05]: He didn't know what to do and I didn't know what to do so we just stood there and I took a picture of him.

[00:14:54] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know, this running thing is... sounds like it's starting to get dangerous, Mike. I don't know.

[00:14:59] [SPEAKER_05]: I feel like it's more dangerous to not run.

[00:15:04] [SPEAKER_05]: In the long term.

[00:15:05] [SPEAKER_06]: Go away the pros and cons.

[00:15:07] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, I mean if I'm going to step on a raccoon then I guess I'll take the chance to hopefully prolong my life.

[00:15:16] [SPEAKER_05]: Alright, Stomp.

[00:15:17] [SPEAKER_05]: So the next article here... I got this sent over to me by a couple of people and then I think you sent it to me as well.

[00:15:23] [SPEAKER_05]: So this is an article.

[00:15:25] [SPEAKER_05]: New Hampshire Fishing Game says more state funding is needed.

[00:15:27] [SPEAKER_05]: So income from hunting and fishing licenses may not be enough to allow the New Hampshire Fishing Game to continue with all the services it provides.

[00:15:36] [SPEAKER_05]: Now it's asking state lawmakers to fill the gap.

[00:15:38] [SPEAKER_05]: So 25% of the agency's $35 million budget comes from sales of the hunting and fishing licenses with another 24% coming from federal funds and about 2% comes from the state's general funds.

[00:15:52] [SPEAKER_05]: Wait a minute here.

[00:15:55] [SPEAKER_05]: So 25%, 24% and then 2%.

[00:15:58] [SPEAKER_05]: That's 51%, Stomp.

[00:16:00] [SPEAKER_05]: Where's the rest of the money come from?

[00:16:03] [SPEAKER_03]: Hmm, yeah, interesting.

[00:16:05] [SPEAKER_06]: They got to jack up the fines for those lost hikers I guess.

[00:16:08] [SPEAKER_06]: But anyway.

[00:16:09] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that's expensive.

[00:16:12] [SPEAKER_06]: Anyway, so with the license sales falling...

[00:16:17] [SPEAKER_05]: Like safe cards.

[00:16:17] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, well that's a way that we can help.

[00:16:20] [SPEAKER_05]: With the license sales falling and costs for everything from equipment to personnel rising, something more reliable is needed or else the money could run out by this time next year.

[00:16:31] [SPEAKER_05]: So Colonel Kevin Jordan is interviewed in this.

[00:16:35] [SPEAKER_05]: He basically said we just feel we've reached a point financially where we need more support and we need it across the state.

[00:16:42] [SPEAKER_05]: So Fishing Games duties include land conservation, running the state's dive team, providing outdoor workshops and education, and handling search and rescue missions.

[00:16:51] [SPEAKER_05]: So those missions can run between $1,500 and $10,000 or higher.

[00:16:57] [SPEAKER_05]: The Fishing Game operates over 140 boat ramps and 105 dams across the state.

[00:17:05] [SPEAKER_05]: There's a bipartisan commission at the statehouse that's working on ways to modernize funding.

[00:17:12] [SPEAKER_05]: And I think most lawmakers agree that the system's broken and they can't do their job without an increase in support.

[00:17:19] [SPEAKER_05]: So keep an eye on that.

[00:17:20] [SPEAKER_05]: I think in the near term you can help out by buying a hike safe card.

[00:17:25] [SPEAKER_05]: I know it's controversial and some people are like it's not insurance, whatever.

[00:17:29] [SPEAKER_05]: It does go to fund Fishing Games.

[00:17:30] [SPEAKER_05]: So if you want to help out, I think eventually the direction this is going to go in is I don't know long term whether or not funding can continue to be born all by hunting and fishing licenses.

[00:17:45] [SPEAKER_05]: I think that hiking's got to figure out a way to generate more revenue from hikers.

[00:17:50] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, absolutely.

[00:17:51] [SPEAKER_03]: And you know the hunters and fishermen are not happy about that arrangement.

[00:17:55] [SPEAKER_03]: They never have been.

[00:17:56] [SPEAKER_03]: It's been ongoing.

[00:17:57] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm happy.

[00:17:58] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm happy to free ride.

[00:18:00] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh boy.

[00:18:04] [SPEAKER_05]: I get that point.

[00:18:06] [SPEAKER_05]: It's like we do our part and you should do your part.

[00:18:09] [SPEAKER_05]: And they see these search and rescue missions and they think like look, there's another $5,000 out the window.

[00:18:15] [SPEAKER_05]: There's another $10,000 out the window that is being funded by us.

[00:18:20] [SPEAKER_05]: Right.

[00:18:21] [SPEAKER_05]: So anyway, so keep an eye on that stomp.

[00:18:26] [SPEAKER_05]: And then next up you pulled an article.

[00:18:28] [SPEAKER_05]: I'm always interested in this so people may not be aware of this but from obviously the World War II.

[00:18:36] [SPEAKER_05]: It's controversial, but we did drop two bombs in Japan and what that people understand that that sort of ended World War II.

[00:18:44] [SPEAKER_05]: But I don't think that they realize that that began an arms race between the US and Russia where for many years probably somewhere around 10 to 15 years there was a period where there was many.

[00:18:58] [SPEAKER_05]: There was Pacific Islands that were were bombed and there was also desert locations in Nevada and Arizona and Utah that were also test sites for nuclear weapons there.

[00:19:10] [SPEAKER_05]: So stomp pulled this article that is from the Guardian that indicates that plutonium.

[00:19:19] [SPEAKER_06]: Sorry, plutonium levels.

[00:19:23] [SPEAKER_06]: What's that?

[00:19:25] [SPEAKER_06]: I don't know.

[00:19:25] [SPEAKER_06]: I can't say plutonium.

[00:19:30] [SPEAKER_06]: Plutonium levels.

[00:19:31] [SPEAKER_02]: You learn something new every day about your memory.

[00:19:33] [SPEAKER_06]: We did that on purpose.

[00:19:36] [SPEAKER_05]: Plutonium levels near US atomic site in Los Alamos similar to Chernobyl level study finds.

[00:19:45] [SPEAKER_05]: So much of the land near the atomic bombs birthplace was converted to recreational areas but toxic wetlands.

[00:19:52] [SPEAKER_05]: So this isn't even the test sites.

[00:19:53] [SPEAKER_05]: This is just Los Alamos where they had to bury a lot of the spent fuel for the nuclear atomic bomb program.

[00:20:02] [SPEAKER_05]: So there's just a lot of it still out there and it's hiding in plain sight apparently.

[00:20:06] [SPEAKER_05]: So if you go out there with a Geiger counter you can get some big hits I guess.

[00:20:12] [SPEAKER_03]: It's unbelievable.

[00:20:12] [SPEAKER_03]: So this is near several popular recreational spots and they're finding extreme concentrations.

[00:20:22] [SPEAKER_03]: And apparently the US Department of Defense recently said it's going to ramp up production of plutonium pits.

[00:20:29] [SPEAKER_03]: But apparently local health advocates aren't quite happy about it as they did not include Los Alamos in the planning.

[00:20:39] [SPEAKER_03]: Let's go hiking.

[00:20:41] [SPEAKER_05]: Apparently they call the area near Los Alamos Acid Canyon.

[00:20:47] [SPEAKER_05]: It's so saturated with toxic waste that it's dangerous.

[00:20:50] [SPEAKER_05]: A lot of hikers and trail runners and bikers go out there.

[00:20:54] [SPEAKER_05]: So something to be aware of I guess.

[00:20:58] [SPEAKER_03]: I wonder if there's signage out there or anything.

[00:21:01] [SPEAKER_03]: Do people even know that that's a risk?

[00:21:04] [SPEAKER_03]: The article doesn't go into that really.

[00:21:06] [SPEAKER_05]: The article says that by the 1980s they did bring the area into compliance with federal cleanup standards so that it's safe to use.

[00:21:15] [SPEAKER_05]: That's what the government claims.

[00:21:16] [SPEAKER_05]: So I would imagine that there has to be some signage out there.

[00:21:19] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh man, look I just caught this paragraph.

[00:21:22] [SPEAKER_03]: Public health advocates called for the government to post signage warning visitors

[00:21:27] [SPEAKER_03]: so they can make an informed decision about using a trail contaminated with toxic waste.

[00:21:33] [SPEAKER_03]: I find that so appalling.

[00:21:36] [SPEAKER_03]: Can you imagine?

[00:21:38] [SPEAKER_03]: There isn't even signage?

[00:21:40] [SPEAKER_03]: Wow.

[00:21:43] [SPEAKER_03]: Crazy man, crazy.

[00:21:44] [SPEAKER_03]: Would you go out there to just check it out?

[00:21:46] [SPEAKER_03]: Hell no, hell no.

[00:21:49] [SPEAKER_03]: Really?

[00:21:49] [SPEAKER_03]: No, I'm not messing around with that.

[00:21:50] [SPEAKER_03]: No way.

[00:21:51] [SPEAKER_03]: Radiation is brutal.

[00:21:53] [SPEAKER_03]: Scary stuff.

[00:21:54] [SPEAKER_05]: Do you know that there is an uninhabited island off of Massachusetts that is a wildlife refuge now?

[00:22:08] [SPEAKER_05]: It's called No Man's Land, Massachusetts.

[00:22:12] [SPEAKER_05]: Okay.

[00:22:13] [SPEAKER_05]: It's like a mini version of Martha's Vineyard.

[00:22:20] [SPEAKER_05]: From 1943 to 1996, the island served as a bombing range for the U.S. Navy.

[00:22:27] [SPEAKER_05]: It's littered with unexploded explosive ordinances that have rendered it closed to the public.

[00:22:35] [SPEAKER_05]: So it's like right south of Martha's Vineyard.

[00:22:38] [SPEAKER_05]: It actually looks kind of cool.

[00:22:39] [SPEAKER_05]: It's got like a nice beaches and stuff and it's got some ponds and stuff on the inside of it.

[00:22:45] [SPEAKER_05]: But apparently they use this as a target practice for bombers so that they could line up their bombing runs and drop bombs.

[00:22:56] [SPEAKER_05]: And they've been using it for years and years and years as practice.

[00:23:00] [SPEAKER_05]: And now you're not allowed to go in there because there's so many unexploded ordinances in there.

[00:23:06] [SPEAKER_03]: And it's a bird refuge?

[00:23:08] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, apparently they call it a wildlife refuge now.

[00:23:11] [SPEAKER_05]: It's called No Man's Land, Massachusetts.

[00:23:14] [SPEAKER_05]: Wow, that's amazing. I had not heard.

[00:23:16] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, it's right off of Martha's Vineyard.

[00:23:20] [SPEAKER_05]: So now you know.

[00:23:23] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and I would imagine that that's got plenty of signage.

[00:23:27] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I don't know exactly.

[00:23:29] [SPEAKER_03]: We'd be hearing about it.

[00:23:30] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I don't know exactly.

[00:23:31] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm sure we'd be hearing about it in local northeast news if people were blowing up visiting a bird refuge.

[00:23:37] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I'll put this in the show notes.

[00:23:42] [SPEAKER_05]: I'm going to put a little note here.

[00:23:45] [SPEAKER_05]: Massachusetts, and I'll add this to the show notes stomp, and now you learned something new.

[00:23:50] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, absolutely.

[00:23:51] [SPEAKER_03]: And I thought I was the biggest asshole, but I guess not if I don't know that.

[00:23:56] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, yeah, that is No Man's Land.

[00:24:01] [SPEAKER_03]: No Man's Land. It's like a World War I reference.

[00:24:04] [SPEAKER_05]: Yes, yes it is.

[00:24:06] [SPEAKER_05]: All right, stomp.

[00:24:09] [SPEAKER_05]: So next up we've got an update.

[00:24:12] [SPEAKER_05]: So we've taken another turn of the earth here and we've got a, it seems like this, the fall is coming faster than we realized, but we've got full conditions is returning.

[00:24:25] [SPEAKER_05]: So what's the story here?

[00:24:27] [SPEAKER_05]: So this is going to involve like brewing beer, doing a live show, figuring out dates.

[00:24:32] [SPEAKER_05]: What do we got going on?

[00:24:34] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, so this is a developing story.

[00:24:37] [SPEAKER_03]: So last year listeners may remember that Reckless hosted an event with Mike and I and Ty Gagney and others.

[00:24:47] [SPEAKER_03]: And it was to celebrate the release of their full conditions brew, which was a collaboration between Ty and Reckless to benefit the New Hampshire Outdoor Council.

[00:24:58] [SPEAKER_03]: And we weren't sure if it was going to happen again, but there's moves to make it happen again.

[00:25:04] [SPEAKER_03]: And apparently we will be joining them sometime late October to join them in the brewing process itself.

[00:25:13] [SPEAKER_03]: And they're planning on having a live show sometime around mid-November.

[00:25:17] [SPEAKER_03]: The date isn't 100% locked down, but it could be potentially the 16th or the 17th.

[00:25:24] [SPEAKER_03]: But we will keep you posted because that was a really nice time.

[00:25:27] [SPEAKER_03]: And obviously it's a great cause to support the Outdoor Council, which as people may not know, if you're a new listener, that is an umbrella agency.

[00:25:36] [SPEAKER_03]: It's a non-profit that provides grants to search and rescue teams here in the state.

[00:25:41] [SPEAKER_03]: So they're vital in the funding of all the activities that go on with search and rescue.

[00:25:47] [SPEAKER_05]: All right, so I'll work on my stand-up comedy routine there.

[00:25:50] [SPEAKER_03]: Maybe we'll get Ken back to do a bit.

[00:25:53] [SPEAKER_05]: He was a hit.

[00:25:54] [SPEAKER_05]: Oh my God, he was funny.

[00:25:56] [SPEAKER_05]: Oh yeah.

[00:25:57] [SPEAKER_05]: And then stop with this brewing beer situation.

[00:26:01] [SPEAKER_05]: Do we need to wear aprons?

[00:26:02] [SPEAKER_05]: Do we need to wear a hairnet?

[00:26:04] [SPEAKER_05]: Do you have to wear a beard net?

[00:26:07] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm hearing from Steve, Reckless Steve, one of the main brewers there, that we should be wearing some waterproof boots, some pants, for sure.

[00:26:17] [SPEAKER_03]: I was thinking of wearing my mucks, that waterproof boots that go up to your knees.

[00:26:22] [SPEAKER_03]: Okay.

[00:26:22] [SPEAKER_03]: And I don't have to worry about a hairnet.

[00:26:25] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't think you do either.

[00:26:28] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm just happy you're going to wear pants, Stomp.

[00:26:29] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm just happy that you wear pants.

[00:26:33] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that's right.

[00:26:36] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh boy, maybe we should sneak in some secret ingredients when nobody's looking.

[00:26:40] [SPEAKER_03]: What would you add if nobody was looking?

[00:26:42] [SPEAKER_05]: I would add pistachio nuts.

[00:26:44] [SPEAKER_05]: I have pistachio nuts right in front of me here.

[00:26:49] [SPEAKER_02]: Pistachio nuts.

[00:26:49] [SPEAKER_02]: I thought about that question deeply, Stomp, and I had an answer ready immediately.

[00:26:55] [SPEAKER_02]: I think Steve will pick it up, he'll taste it and be like, oh, something's wrong with the batch.

[00:27:01] [SPEAKER_05]: Nothing's ever wrong with pistachios.

[00:27:04] [SPEAKER_05]: All right, Stomp, and then you had here in the notes that we wanted to give a shout out to the Mount Washington Weather Observatory here.

[00:27:12] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, as people know, they invited us out to do a live show at the Seek the Peak event at Tuckman Brewery this summer,

[00:27:20] [SPEAKER_03]: which is their largest fundraising event for the observatory.

[00:27:24] [SPEAKER_03]: And they were kind enough to send us a box with some cool patches and stickers and whatnot and a kind note.

[00:27:30] [SPEAKER_03]: So we just wanted to say to the crew at the OBS, thank you very much.

[00:27:34] [SPEAKER_03]: It was really nice.

[00:27:35] [SPEAKER_03]: Ellen, Charlie, Wendy, and the whole, the forecasters, everybody, we had a really nice time as well.

[00:27:41] [SPEAKER_03]: And we hope to make it next year as well, depending on our schedules, of course.

[00:27:45] [SPEAKER_03]: But if we can make it work, we'll definitely be there.

[00:27:47] [SPEAKER_03]: That was so much fun.

[00:27:49] [SPEAKER_03]: So thank you guys.

[00:27:51] [SPEAKER_12]: Thank you.

[00:27:51] [SPEAKER_12]: We all know that hiking a mountain can be hard at times.

[00:27:55] [SPEAKER_12]: So here's a corny dad joke to help you get over it.

[00:28:00] [SPEAKER_12]: Ba-dum-bum.

[00:28:03] [SPEAKER_05]: Stomp, this is the part of the show where we do a dad joke.

[00:28:08] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, another one.

[00:28:09] [SPEAKER_03]: Yes.

[00:28:09] [SPEAKER_03]: Haven't you run out by now?

[00:28:10] [SPEAKER_05]: No, no.

[00:28:12] [SPEAKER_05]: 365 days.

[00:28:12] [SPEAKER_05]: So thanks to my friends Camilla and Lance.

[00:28:15] [SPEAKER_05]: What happens when the book is done?

[00:28:18] [SPEAKER_05]: I feel like I'm going to, I've already repeated some by mistake, so I'm just going to keep going.

[00:28:23] [SPEAKER_05]: So Stomp, why did Tinkerbell get mad, get made fun of at school?

[00:28:30] [SPEAKER_03]: I couldn't, I have no idea.

[00:28:32] [SPEAKER_05]: She peed her pants.

[00:28:36] [SPEAKER_03]: That's a good one.

[00:28:37] [SPEAKER_03]: I like that.

[00:28:38] [SPEAKER_03]: That's a clever playing word.

[00:28:40] [SPEAKER_03]: Right?

[00:28:40] [SPEAKER_06]: She peed her pants.

[00:28:43] [SPEAKER_06]: So it could either be Peter Pants or Peter Pan.

[00:28:47] [SPEAKER_06]: Get it?

[00:28:48] [SPEAKER_06]: It could be either or.

[00:28:49] [SPEAKER_06]: You don't know.

[00:28:53] [SPEAKER_03]: Yep.

[00:28:53] [SPEAKER_03]: Only the smartest among us can figure that one out.

[00:28:57] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm on fire over here, Stomp.

[00:28:59] [SPEAKER_03]: Play on words.

[00:29:00] [SPEAKER_03]: You're on fire.

[00:29:02] [SPEAKER_03]: Damn, you need a Volkluss Gear backpack ventilation frame then maybe.

[00:29:08] [SPEAKER_05]: Oh wow, that's a good point, Stomp.

[00:29:10] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, so if your back is on fire like Mike's, you may need one.

[00:29:15] [SPEAKER_03]: So as you know, sweat can be extremely uncomfortable on the trails.

[00:29:19] [SPEAKER_03]: Plus sweat is a serious risk factor in both hot and cold climates.

[00:29:23] [SPEAKER_03]: As your clothes get wet, your core temperature can dramatically fluctuate and this can result in hypothermia, heat exhaustion and dehydration.

[00:29:30] [SPEAKER_03]: And let's not forget, it's just very uncomfortable.

[00:29:33] [SPEAKER_03]: Today's your lucky day because we have good news for you here at Slasher.

[00:29:36] [SPEAKER_03]: There's a piece of gear that solves the sweat and ventilation problem, making your backpack more comfortable.

[00:29:43] [SPEAKER_03]: Volkluss Gear's Ultralight Backpack Ventilation Frame.

[00:29:47] [SPEAKER_03]: It's an ultralight backpack accessory that easily installs in your favorite pack sizes 15L to 45L and creates a ventilating airflow gap between you and your pack.

[00:29:58] [SPEAKER_03]: It's also ultralight weighing around 3 ounces.

[00:30:01] [SPEAKER_03]: That's equivalent to a pair of wool socks.

[00:30:03] [SPEAKER_03]: I wonder how much a hula hoop weighs?

[00:30:06] [SPEAKER_03]: We shall find out I guess.

[00:30:09] [SPEAKER_03]: So whether hiking in hot or cold temps, the Ultralight Backpack Ventilation Frame from Volkluss Gear is a real game changer regarding airflow and ventilation.

[00:30:17] [SPEAKER_03]: So visit them at volklussgear.com to order an Ultralight Ventilation Frame today and use the code SLASR to enjoy a $5 discount and let them know that Mike and Stomp sent you.

[00:30:32] [SPEAKER_03]: Alright, cool.

[00:30:32] [SPEAKER_03]: So hey, if anybody wants free stickers, they're still available at Ski Fanatics here at Exit 28 in Campton or down in Massachusetts in Andover at Spinner's Pizza Parlor.

[00:30:45] [SPEAKER_03]: And I just want to give a shout out to Spinner's because they are celebrating their 30th anniversary this October 2024.

[00:30:52] [SPEAKER_03]: So yeah, congratulations to Dolls and Pops.

[00:30:55] [SPEAKER_03]: So spin by and grab a sticker and say hi and congratulate them on 30 years of making some of the best pizza in the area.

[00:31:02] [SPEAKER_03]: It's really cool.

[00:31:06] [SPEAKER_03]: Dolls and Pops!

[00:31:08] [SPEAKER_03]: You can also advertise with SLASR.

[00:31:11] [SPEAKER_03]: Just shoot us an email or a direct message and we can chat.

[00:31:15] [SPEAKER_03]: And people are buying the swag again.

[00:31:18] [SPEAKER_03]: The SLASR Bonfire Sweatshirt is moving fast because it's certainly gotten a lot colder really quick.

[00:31:24] [SPEAKER_03]: It's hoodie season, Stomp.

[00:31:25] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it sure is.

[00:31:27] [SPEAKER_03]: So the hoodies that we're selling up on the Bonfire Shop are really beautiful.

[00:31:30] [SPEAKER_03]: There are also classic V-necks and different styles of t-shirts.

[00:31:35] [SPEAKER_03]: So check it out and represent SLASR today.

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[00:32:14] [SPEAKER_03]: Cool!

[00:32:16] [SPEAKER_05]: Very good Stomp. So this is the part of the show where we talk about what beer we are drinking.

[00:32:20] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, what you got? Anything?

[00:32:22] [SPEAKER_05]: I have my last friendly neighbor one.

[00:32:28] [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, nice.

[00:32:28] [SPEAKER_05]: So I've had these in the fridge for probably two months now.

[00:32:33] [SPEAKER_05]: This is my last friendly neighbor.

[00:32:35] [SPEAKER_05]: I have mostly friendly neighbors except for one neighbor that I'm not friends with.

[00:32:40] [SPEAKER_05]: And I don't like them.

[00:32:41] [SPEAKER_03]: I hope they don't listen to the podcast.

[00:32:44] [SPEAKER_05]: I hope they do and that they hear me say I don't like them.

[00:32:47] [SPEAKER_05]: One of these days Stomp when you and I go hiking I gotta tell you the whole story.

[00:32:50] [SPEAKER_03]: Okay, maybe you should send them a six pack of that beer and say hey let's just let bygones be bygones.

[00:32:59] [SPEAKER_03]: It's the holiday season almost.

[00:33:02] [SPEAKER_03]: An olive branch.

[00:33:03] [SPEAKER_03]: Yes, a peace token.

[00:33:06] [SPEAKER_05]: Yes, okay. Anyway, so Stomp what are you drinking?

[00:33:10] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh man, I'm just hooked on these Stormalong. Stormalong Legendary Dry.

[00:33:14] [SPEAKER_03]: Super dry out of Lemonster and I believe they have a brewer satellite in Vermont as well.

[00:33:21] [SPEAKER_03]: But it's hard cider and it's super dry.

[00:33:24] [SPEAKER_03]: Made of heirloom apples, bittersweet apples, tannic, crisp and complex.

[00:33:30] [SPEAKER_05]: Complex, huh?

[00:33:33] [SPEAKER_05]: It's a complex apple.

[00:33:34] [SPEAKER_05]: I prefer my beer.

[00:33:36] [SPEAKER_05]: Alright Stomp this is the part of the show where we talk about recent hikes so why don't you go first.

[00:33:44] [SPEAKER_03]: Sure, I will say that I bailed on you and I had good reason.

[00:33:49] [SPEAKER_03]: I did get beat up pretty bad on a recent mission so forgive me.

[00:33:53] [SPEAKER_03]: It's okay Stomp I had a strong crew and you would have brought them down.

[00:33:58] [SPEAKER_03]: For sure. A funny story though on that mission like I don't know if I told you this but about two months ago I had dislocated my wrist.

[00:34:06] [SPEAKER_03]: Did I ever mention that?

[00:34:07] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't remember. I don't recall.

[00:34:09] [SPEAKER_03]: I was screwing in screws into the hardwood window frames here at the condo and one of my carpal bones dislocated.

[00:34:19] [SPEAKER_03]: So for the last two months I've had limited motion and on this carry I was on carrying holding onto the litter and I heard a giant pop so it actually reduced.

[00:34:32] [SPEAKER_03]: It reduced back in place and I have full motion now but it's still like you know on a scale of 1 to 10 being 10 being the worst pain it's probably like a 3 still.

[00:34:40] [SPEAKER_03]: So over the weekend it was just killing but my motion is back.

[00:34:45] [SPEAKER_05]: Oh that's good. But you need to like you shouldn't be manually doing a screwdriver at this point.

[00:34:51] [SPEAKER_05]: Like you just got to get a power drill.

[00:34:52] [SPEAKER_03]: No kidding. Yeah I know I overdid it. I did like I think at the time I did about maybe 15 screws.

[00:34:58] [SPEAKER_05]: There's no zero need for you to do that.

[00:35:01] [SPEAKER_03]: I know I just got lazy. I'm like I don't want to go downstairs and dig out the drill. So yeah bad mistake.

[00:35:07] [SPEAKER_05]: You're not a spring chicken anymore Stomp. You can't be doing that stuff.

[00:35:11] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah I'm starting to realize that when it comes to screwing yourself up when you're just screwing in a screw.

[00:35:17] [SPEAKER_05]: Well thank you for that person to get injured and that fixed your wrist.

[00:35:21] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

[00:35:24] [SPEAKER_03]: But yeah so the big the big hike of the week for me was Skook.

[00:35:30] [SPEAKER_05]: So Stomp was talking about the Skookum Chuck Trail which is slightly north of Franconia Ridge.

[00:35:37] [SPEAKER_05]: Take basically route 3 and then it's the first trailhead right there.

[00:35:41] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah that's right. We had a huge list of different hikes to do and we were so undecided we literally didn't decide until that morning

[00:35:48] [SPEAKER_03]: at the parking lot of the Mad River Coffee Shop. So we opted to go to Skookum Chuck.

[00:35:53] [SPEAKER_03]: And our plan was to hit the summit of Lafayette and then come down Greenleaf because I don't believe Nabi had ever done Greenleaf Trail

[00:36:00] [SPEAKER_03]: which as you know from the Greenleaf Hut you can either go left down Old Bridle Path or right down the Greenleaf Trail back to the tram of Cannon.

[00:36:09] [SPEAKER_03]: So that was the plan. It was a nice day. The birch glades were beautiful. Skookum Chuck is about 4 miles 4.1 miles or so.

[00:36:18] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah I've never done it.

[00:36:20] [SPEAKER_02]: You've never done it?

[00:36:21] [SPEAKER_02]: No. I need to.

[00:36:22] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh it's absolutely beautiful. It's just long and sprawling but at about say 3,800 feet 3,900 feet it becomes a birch glade.

[00:36:31] [SPEAKER_03]: So it's all beautiful birch and you come up on a false peak that actually gives you advantage of Lafayette.

[00:36:39] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah that's North Lafayette right?

[00:36:42] [SPEAKER_03]: Yes, yes. Then you skirt left and then you come up to the junction of Garfield Ridge Trail and Skookum Chuck and you bear right and you head towards the summit.

[00:36:53] [SPEAKER_03]: So it was a real nice day. We had to gear up. We had to put on the puffy, the Gore-Tex gloves, hats because the wind chill, it had to be low 40s.

[00:37:04] [SPEAKER_05]: And then you had the dog with you so Nabi has a, it's not a Black Lab, it's like a heavier Black Lab type of dog.

[00:37:16] [SPEAKER_05]: Knox is probably 70 pounds I'd say?

[00:37:19] [SPEAKER_03]: 70 or 80.

[00:37:20] [SPEAKER_05]: 70 or 80. So big dog but good dog. I mean great to hike with. Stays right with Knox the whole time.

[00:37:26] [SPEAKER_05]: And did you have to put the vest on Knox as well?

[00:37:30] [SPEAKER_03]: Knox had the vest and it's really interesting. Knox is really smart about it. He will assess different little channels between rocks and look at them and go, I can't do it, I've got my vest on and go around.

[00:37:43] [SPEAKER_05]: Knox is definitely smarter than Nabi. There's no question about that.

[00:37:49] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it was a good time. But here's the kicker. Nabi was filming to make a video.

[00:37:56] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh great.

[00:37:57] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, so we take a right, we're heading up and we're about .1 maybe .2 up.

[00:38:04] [SPEAKER_03]: Sort of the primary false peak that's probably 200 feet high, I see a young woman coming down and I couldn't really make out any detail until she got within about 50 yards or so.

[00:38:18] [SPEAKER_03]: And the second I could make out how she was dressed and what she was carrying, I knew immediately that she had taken the wrong turn.

[00:38:25] [SPEAKER_03]: She comes up to me and without hesitation I just said, where are you going? In a nice way. And she said, I'm going to Greenleaf Hut.

[00:38:34] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, because if you said that was kind of mean, Stomp, I would have been like, who are you?

[00:38:39] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, well, that's always the debate. That's a common debate. Like do you talk to people, do you not?

[00:38:44] [SPEAKER_03]: So she said she was going to Greenleaf Hut. And I said, no, you're not.

[00:38:48] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, turn around.

[00:38:48] [SPEAKER_03]: No, you're not. And then I explained to her what happened, how it's common. She was a young woman from Maryland. She was in her 20s. She was really nice, just a sweetheart.

[00:38:59] [SPEAKER_03]: But she had like no warm clothes. She had a satchel that was a purse essentially, no backpack. She had done the loop.

[00:39:06] [SPEAKER_03]: She went up falling waters, got to the summit and then made that mistake. That happens a lot.

[00:39:10] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh yeah.

[00:39:11] [SPEAKER_03]: So ultimately what happens, you get down to Skook and you're like, where am I? What's happening here?

[00:39:18] [SPEAKER_03]: And if you, you know, ultimately the police will pick you up when you're down at the bottom of Skook.

[00:39:22] [SPEAKER_03]: But if you go into Garthridge Trail unprepared like that, that could have been bad.

[00:39:27] [SPEAKER_03]: So she joined us back to the summit and I redirected her back down to the hut.

[00:39:32] [SPEAKER_03]: But just be careful. Just know where you're going. Have a map. Make sure you know where you're going.

[00:39:39] [SPEAKER_03]: And it's funny, she actually said that at one point she was looking down near the summit because it was so windy.

[00:39:45] [SPEAKER_03]: She didn't want to lose her hat. That may very well have been the moment where she just went right by the summit sign.

[00:39:51] [SPEAKER_05]: What day was this? Was this on Sunday?

[00:39:53] [SPEAKER_03]: This was Sunday, the next day after you guys did watch.

[00:39:56] [SPEAKER_05]: Oh so that would be Monday because I think we went on Sunday. So it would have been Monday.

[00:39:59] [SPEAKER_05]: Oh correct.

[00:40:00] [SPEAKER_05]: So were the views awesome?

[00:40:03] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it wasn't bad. But when we were coming down Greenleaf from the summit, it started raining.

[00:40:09] [SPEAKER_03]: And you could see the kinsmen's completely covered in rain.

[00:40:14] [SPEAKER_03]: We were fortunate enough that we missed the bulk of the storm that came through.

[00:40:19] [SPEAKER_03]: And then by the time we got down to Eagle Notch, we decided against it.

[00:40:25] [SPEAKER_03]: And I explained to Nobby, listen, the ascent up to Eagle Cliff from here is not going to be cool for Knox at all.

[00:40:33] [SPEAKER_03]: And descending from the Watcher, I'm not too uptight about it.

[00:40:37] [SPEAKER_03]: But for a dog, nah. So I suggested we just tackle it another time and do it clockwise.

[00:40:43] [SPEAKER_03]: So it was a good time.

[00:40:45] [SPEAKER_05]: That's great. Knox is a great dog to hike with. He's really well behaved, sticks with you.

[00:40:52] [SPEAKER_05]: Nobby has done such a good job training him. So it's a joy to go hiking with him.

[00:40:57] [SPEAKER_05]: Oh phenomenal. He's a sweet dog.

[00:40:59] [SPEAKER_05]: I'll look forward to the video when he puts it out.

[00:41:03] [SPEAKER_03]: So tell us about the Watcher.

[00:41:04] [SPEAKER_05]: So I was trying to decide what to do.

[00:41:08] [SPEAKER_05]: I think originally I was thinking we would hit one of the 4,000 footers for my daughter.

[00:41:16] [SPEAKER_05]: And she wanted to go hiking with her boyfriend.

[00:41:18] [SPEAKER_05]: I was up in Maine for the weekend and I got pinged by Camilla and Lance.

[00:41:23] [SPEAKER_05]: And they were like, we want to do the Watcher because they had tried to do it a couple of weeks before.

[00:41:28] [SPEAKER_05]: And they couldn't figure out the trail.

[00:41:29] [SPEAKER_05]: And I was like, yeah, look, my recommendation if anybody wants to do this hike,

[00:41:33] [SPEAKER_05]: they should go with someone that's done it previously just because it's not a hike that you want to mess around with.

[00:41:40] [SPEAKER_05]: There's some nuances to it around whether to go up the right or the left slide.

[00:41:45] [SPEAKER_05]: And it's not an established trail.

[00:41:50] [SPEAKER_05]: So you want to go with someone that knows what they're doing and has been there.

[00:41:53] [SPEAKER_05]: So I was like, I'm happy to go up with you.

[00:41:56] [SPEAKER_05]: And I had my daughter and her boyfriend.

[00:42:01] [SPEAKER_05]: And I don't know if Devin loves doing the death marches.

[00:42:05] [SPEAKER_05]: He'll do them and he's done the kinsmen's and a bunch of other stuff.

[00:42:08] [SPEAKER_05]: But I think he prefers the shorter hikes.

[00:42:10] [SPEAKER_05]: And then my friend Jay, who you had hiked with when we did Well Sticky, he joined us too.

[00:42:15] [SPEAKER_05]: And he's another one that I don't think he would have loved doing the death march.

[00:42:18] [SPEAKER_05]: So we were originally, I was going to go up the Watcher, go Eagle Pass and then go up Greenleaf to Lafayette.

[00:42:26] [SPEAKER_05]: And we just completely, I met Camilla and Lance in the parking lot.

[00:42:29] [SPEAKER_05]: And I told him, I was like, let's just do the Watcher and take our time.

[00:42:32] [SPEAKER_05]: And she was like, that's perfect because she didn't want to do anything too crazy.

[00:42:35] [SPEAKER_05]: So I think the total hike is four miles.

[00:42:38] [SPEAKER_05]: And so you park at Cannon.

[00:42:41] [SPEAKER_05]: So there was Lance, Camilla, Caroline, Devin, and then my friend Jay.

[00:42:46] [SPEAKER_05]: So there was six of us, which is a good number.

[00:42:49] [SPEAKER_05]: Anything more than that, I wouldn't have loved.

[00:42:54] [SPEAKER_05]: But you're in the Cannon parking lot.

[00:42:57] [SPEAKER_05]: We met up, no problem.

[00:42:59] [SPEAKER_05]: Get on Greenleaf Trail and then you're on Greenleaf for about a half a mile.

[00:43:03] [SPEAKER_05]: And then you can see the cairn that marks the climbers trail.

[00:43:07] [SPEAKER_05]: So we go up and the coolest thing ever was that there was two climbers on the Eaglet.

[00:43:15] [SPEAKER_05]: Okay.

[00:43:16] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, which was awesome.

[00:43:17] [SPEAKER_05]: So once we got up to the Eaglet, which is this spire, like I don't know, Stump, how would you describe it?

[00:43:25] [SPEAKER_03]: Um, geez, maybe 600 foot, maybe less, 500 foot tall spire.

[00:43:33] [SPEAKER_03]: And it's the only spire east of the, I don't know, Mississippi or something.

[00:43:40] [SPEAKER_03]: Some data like that.

[00:43:41] [SPEAKER_03]: It's very interesting.

[00:43:43] [SPEAKER_03]: It's awesome.

[00:43:44] [SPEAKER_03]: You can't really see it unless you're paying attention because it sort of settles into the Eagle Cliff itself as you're driving north through the notch.

[00:43:51] [SPEAKER_03]: You have to really pay attention as you're driving through.

[00:43:55] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, yeah.

[00:43:55] [SPEAKER_05]: It's so cool.

[00:43:56] [SPEAKER_05]: But the coolest thing about the whole thing is, so there's two guys up there or two girls, I wasn't sure.

[00:44:04] [SPEAKER_05]: I took a bunch of pictures and then I posted them on the Instagram.

[00:44:07] [SPEAKER_05]: And then one of the climbers, Seth Allman, who we connected on Instagram, he was like, hey, that's me.

[00:44:16] [SPEAKER_05]: So I was able to connect with who the climber was.

[00:44:19] [SPEAKER_05]: So I thought that was really cool.

[00:44:20] [SPEAKER_05]: So shout out to Seth and his friends.

[00:44:22] [SPEAKER_05]: So Seth has a really cool Instagram page and does a lot of cool stuff like climbing and hiking and stuff.

[00:44:29] [SPEAKER_05]: So he seems like an awesome dude.

[00:44:31] [SPEAKER_05]: So I'll, yeah, you know, shout out to him that he was out there.

[00:44:35] [SPEAKER_05]: But so it was cool.

[00:44:36] [SPEAKER_05]: So we get up and, you know, the watcher is a little bit tricky.

[00:44:40] [SPEAKER_05]: So you have to kind of go one at a time in the stree fields to approach it.

[00:44:44] [SPEAKER_05]: And then, you know, maybe took about an hour.

[00:44:46] [SPEAKER_05]: We did see another group that was like two dads and like four boys that were coming down.

[00:44:51] [SPEAKER_05]: So they had gone up and they had just climbed down the same direction, which I've never really, I've never climbed down that direction.

[00:44:57] [SPEAKER_05]: I always go out through Eagle Pass or Eagle Cliff, whatever it is.

[00:45:01] [SPEAKER_05]: But yeah, we get up there and Camilla's like she does a bunch of videos and she's like got us.

[00:45:08] [SPEAKER_05]: You know, we took our time.

[00:45:09] [SPEAKER_05]: We were up there for like maybe an hour.

[00:45:10] [SPEAKER_05]: The same time when me and you and Nick in that crew went up, like we took our time.

[00:45:15] [SPEAKER_05]: It was the same type of deal.

[00:45:16] [SPEAKER_05]: We just took a bunch of photos.

[00:45:18] [SPEAKER_05]: We had lunch and really casual.

[00:45:22] [SPEAKER_05]: So it was good time.

[00:45:24] [SPEAKER_05]: Camilla had us doing those like slow motion jumps in the air so we could get the pictures and stuff.

[00:45:29] [SPEAKER_05]: And I was like, oh boy.

[00:45:31] [SPEAKER_02]: I need to see some of those.

[00:45:33] [SPEAKER_02]: I hate that stuff, but I was a good trooper.

[00:45:36] [SPEAKER_05]: I was like, all right, do it for my friend.

[00:45:41] [SPEAKER_05]: And then we went out Eagle.

[00:45:42] [SPEAKER_05]: Mike jumping reels.

[00:45:44] [SPEAKER_05]: Oh yeah.

[00:45:44] [SPEAKER_05]: I'll send it to you so you can see.

[00:45:47] [SPEAKER_05]: But then we went, you know, then we went out across Eagle Cliff and that was cool.

[00:45:53] [SPEAKER_05]: You know, it was sort of a casual hike.

[00:45:55] [SPEAKER_05]: I love that.

[00:45:55] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

[00:45:56] [SPEAKER_05]: That herd path is so cool.

[00:45:58] [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, it's so cool.

[00:45:58] [SPEAKER_05]: And it's like so mossy and ancient.

[00:46:00] [SPEAKER_05]: It's really nice.

[00:46:02] [SPEAKER_05]: And we got to the can and we put our names on there and our Instagram handles and stuff.

[00:46:07] [SPEAKER_05]: So yeah.

[00:46:10] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, wait a minute.

[00:46:11] [SPEAKER_03]: So the register is back?

[00:46:12] [SPEAKER_05]: It's back.

[00:46:12] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

[00:46:13] [SPEAKER_05]: Somebody put a can up there now.

[00:46:15] [SPEAKER_03]: Interesting because that place always gets devastated through the winter.

[00:46:18] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[00:46:19] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[00:46:19] [SPEAKER_03]: That's probably the third registered in my time hiking over the last seven or eight years.

[00:46:25] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

[00:46:26] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

[00:46:26] [SPEAKER_05]: And what we're talking about for the listeners is if you do off trail stuff like you get

[00:46:32] [SPEAKER_05]: to a summit, there are these like PVC canisters that have like a screw in the bottom of them.

[00:46:39] [SPEAKER_05]: So you unscrew the bottom and then inside of it will be like a plastic bag with a with

[00:46:47] [SPEAKER_05]: a notepad and then you can put your name on there and the date that you you hiked it.

[00:46:52] [SPEAKER_05]: So there was a bunch of names on there.

[00:46:53] [SPEAKER_05]: So it's definitely getting some traffic.

[00:46:57] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, that's great.

[00:46:58] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, it was good.

[00:46:59] [SPEAKER_05]: And then we hiked out to Greenleaf and I guess I don't know.

[00:47:05] [SPEAKER_05]: I haven't been on Skookum Shock, but I'm assuming it's probably the same vibe because like I

[00:47:09] [SPEAKER_05]: always say on the Pemuloop, like that section between North Lafayette and Garfield Pond is

[00:47:15] [SPEAKER_05]: like the coolest mossiest trail system.

[00:47:20] [SPEAKER_05]: It's like so green and the rocks are all covered with moss.

[00:47:22] [SPEAKER_05]: Greenleaf Trail is the same way as you get to that lower portion and you connect back

[00:47:27] [SPEAKER_05]: to Greenleaf Trail.

[00:47:28] [SPEAKER_05]: There's so many cool like mossy sections and even when you get back on trail as you hike

[00:47:34] [SPEAKER_05]: back out, like it's just a beautiful trail section.

[00:47:38] [SPEAKER_05]: And I think it's just, you know, maybe it doesn't get as much credit, but I just think

[00:47:42] [SPEAKER_05]: it's just beautiful.

[00:47:45] [SPEAKER_03]: So you're talking about the Boulder Field and the caves and the notch itself when you're

[00:47:50] [SPEAKER_03]: coming down from Eagle Cliff?

[00:47:50] [SPEAKER_05]: That part, but even as you pass like where the old like that homeless camp and you come

[00:47:59] [SPEAKER_05]: down and then you're in the lower section there.

[00:48:02] [SPEAKER_05]: It's all mossy and cool back there.

[00:48:05] [SPEAKER_03]: Right.

[00:48:06] [SPEAKER_03]: Nobby and I explored those caves a little bit in the notch and it's pretty awesome.

[00:48:11] [SPEAKER_03]: There's some scary deep caves in that area.

[00:48:13] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[00:48:13] [SPEAKER_03]: It's not unusual to actually see snow and lingering, not snow, but lingering ice deep

[00:48:20] [SPEAKER_03]: in some of these holes.

[00:48:22] [SPEAKER_03]: You can feel the temperature change when you get through the notch.

[00:48:25] [SPEAKER_03]: And just another interesting point about that cliff wall when you get back to Eagle Notch,

[00:48:31] [SPEAKER_03]: that cliff wall is one of the most active geological formations in the area according to some

[00:48:37] [SPEAKER_03]: geologists that I'm familiar with.

[00:48:40] [SPEAKER_03]: So when you walk through that little pass right there, that 50 yards, move quick.

[00:48:46] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

[00:48:48] [SPEAKER_03]: Interesting spot.

[00:48:50] [SPEAKER_05]: Very good stomp.

[00:48:52] [SPEAKER_05]: So yeah, so we've both been getting around, so that's good stuff.

[00:48:55] [SPEAKER_05]: And I won't be getting out next weekend, but I will, I think the weekend after that I'll

[00:48:59] [SPEAKER_05]: be getting out.

[00:49:00] [SPEAKER_05]: So I don't know what I'm doing yet, but I'll figure it out.

[00:49:03] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[00:49:04] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm going to get out for Dave's thing.

[00:49:06] [SPEAKER_03]: Dave's trying to finish his 100 highest and he's finishing on the captain, so he invited

[00:49:11] [SPEAKER_03]: me out to that.

[00:49:12] [SPEAKER_03]: And we're planning like an overnight, maybe two, to really just celebrate and enjoy it.

[00:49:17] [SPEAKER_03]: But thanks to Grandma Stomp and Grandpa Stomp, they found me a, as you know, Sawyer River

[00:49:24] [SPEAKER_03]: Road is closed, so we have to bike up that.

[00:49:26] [SPEAKER_03]: So they found a bike wagon for 30 bucks on Facebook Marketplace.

[00:49:31] [SPEAKER_03]: So I'm going to throw the packs in that, the tent and try to bike up with Nobby and

[00:49:37] [SPEAKER_03]: whoever else is going to be going on that trip.

[00:49:39] [SPEAKER_03]: So that'll be a nice time.

[00:49:40] [SPEAKER_03]: Hopefully the weather will work out.

[00:49:42] [SPEAKER_03]: You never know at this time.

[00:49:42] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[00:49:43] [SPEAKER_05]: So it's going to be you, Nobby and Dave?

[00:49:46] [SPEAKER_03]: So far, yep.

[00:49:47] [SPEAKER_03]: And Liz.

[00:49:48] [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, and Liz too.

[00:49:49] [SPEAKER_05]: Okay.

[00:49:50] [SPEAKER_03]: So he's going to head up early Friday.

[00:49:52] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, that's right.

[00:49:53] [SPEAKER_03]: Set up camp.

[00:49:54] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm going to head up Friday afternoon, Friday night, get to camp, and then we'll hike it

[00:49:58] [SPEAKER_03]: Saturday and then camp out.

[00:50:00] [SPEAKER_05]: Damn, I wish I could join you, but I got to travel again.

[00:50:03] [SPEAKER_05]: I got a lot of traveling going on the next four months.

[00:50:07] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it is what it is.

[00:50:08] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, whatever.

[00:50:11] [SPEAKER_05]: Anyway, now is the part of the show where we do Notable Listener Hike of the Week here,

[00:50:17] [SPEAKER_05]: Stomp.

[00:50:17] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, so tag Slasher on your adventure to be considered for Slasher's Hike of the Week.

[00:50:23] [SPEAKER_03]: No guarantees you'll be plugged on the show, but tag us and we will do our best to mention

[00:50:28] [SPEAKER_03]: your adventure.

[00:50:29] [SPEAKER_03]: So this week we have J. Clap Cow, J.K. Lap Cow or J.K. Clap Cow, who completed the Harriman

[00:50:39] [SPEAKER_03]: Beer All Trails Challenge 400 miles to complete.

[00:50:43] [SPEAKER_03]: And I think this is a question for Stash from the ITL Catskills podcast, because this is

[00:50:49] [SPEAKER_03]: a region in the Catskills that apparently has just a huge amount of trails.

[00:50:54] [SPEAKER_03]: So we have the link and you can check it out.

[00:50:56] [SPEAKER_03]: But congrats on that.

[00:50:57] [SPEAKER_03]: Looks like a monstrous adventure.

[00:50:59] [SPEAKER_05]: So this is sort of like, I guess this is probably maybe their equivalent to our guidebook or

[00:51:05] [SPEAKER_05]: here or something.

[00:51:06] [SPEAKER_05]: But wow, that's impressive.

[00:51:08] [SPEAKER_03]: It looks similar.

[00:51:09] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, yeah, for sure.

[00:51:13] [SPEAKER_03]: And it's connected to the AT through several portions of this Harriman Beer region.

[00:51:21] [SPEAKER_03]: I sound like I know what I'm talking about, right?

[00:51:23] [SPEAKER_03]: It sounds good to me.

[00:51:24] [SPEAKER_03]: Just flow with it.

[00:51:26] [SPEAKER_03]: All right.

[00:51:27] [SPEAKER_03]: Next, we have KK48Peaks, who finished number 32 and 33 out of the 48 4,000 footers in New

[00:51:34] [SPEAKER_03]: Hampshire.

[00:51:35] [SPEAKER_03]: And I couldn't quite tell, but it looked like it was Monroe looking down on the Lake of the

[00:51:40] [SPEAKER_03]: Clouds Hut and Adjiakotuk, Mount Washington.

[00:51:44] [SPEAKER_03]: LB Boyd was over in Alberta, Canada, and was on the Grassy Lake Trail.

[00:51:51] [SPEAKER_03]: Beautiful pictures.

[00:51:52] [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, I'm looking at these right now.

[00:51:53] [SPEAKER_05]: It's unbelievable.

[00:51:55] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I mean, the color of the water and like it's unbelievable.

[00:51:59] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[00:52:01] [SPEAKER_03]: Steve Summits and Eli Tepe were in your neck of the woods, Mike, doing the four mile burnt

[00:52:08] [SPEAKER_03]: metal loop in Brownfield.

[00:52:10] [SPEAKER_03]: Who knows what's up?

[00:52:11] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I guess so.

[00:52:14] [SPEAKER_03]: Dave Schitt's in the woods, tackled Mount Huntington and Huntington South for a 102

[00:52:20] [SPEAKER_03]: and 103 out of the 104, leaving only the captain.

[00:52:26] [SPEAKER_03]: Let's see.

[00:52:27] [SPEAKER_03]: Paul Gemell Jr. did a clockwise pemi loop in 13 hours, listening to PUD's podcast.

[00:52:34] [SPEAKER_03]: And then towards the end, he knew what he needed to get to the end.

[00:52:37] [SPEAKER_03]: He turned on the old Stomp latest DJ mix.

[00:52:41] [SPEAKER_05]: Paul's been on fire lately.

[00:52:43] [SPEAKER_05]: I think he's cruising too, that's a fast time.

[00:52:45] [SPEAKER_05]: I think he did some, I think he did the Carters.

[00:52:50] [SPEAKER_05]: He posted he was like feeling the pain on the Carters recently, so I get it.

[00:52:54] [SPEAKER_05]: I'd rather do the pemi loop than the Carters.

[00:52:57] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, all I got to say to Paul is he didn't do it with a pool noodle, so not too impressed.

[00:53:03] [SPEAKER_06]: Okay, okay, next time.

[00:53:04] [SPEAKER_06]: All right.

[00:53:08] [SPEAKER_03]: Skinner 519, sSkinner519 did seven presidentials for September Grid.

[00:53:14] [SPEAKER_03]: Madison all the way to Pierce.

[00:53:16] [SPEAKER_03]: That's a pretty killer.

[00:53:18] [SPEAKER_03]: Coco Gorm is over in Iceland sloshing around Skogafoss Waterfall.

[00:53:24] [SPEAKER_03]: Another beautiful spot.

[00:53:26] [SPEAKER_05]: I've been there.

[00:53:27] [SPEAKER_05]: You have?

[00:53:28] [SPEAKER_05]: Oh yeah, that's a beautiful, beautiful waterfall.

[00:53:31] [SPEAKER_05]: You can walk behind that one.

[00:53:34] [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, so how tall is this thing?

[00:53:36] [SPEAKER_05]: It is like, I would say it's probably about 250 feet maybe.

[00:53:44] [SPEAKER_05]: Maybe 200 feet, but it's wide.

[00:53:47] [SPEAKER_05]: That's the thing, it's impressive.

[00:53:49] [SPEAKER_05]: It's like super wide and there's like a permanent rainbow on the thing and then you can walk behind it.

[00:53:55] [SPEAKER_05]: The thing is Skogafoss is cool.

[00:53:57] [SPEAKER_05]: It's very touristy, like there's a ton of tourists there, but you have to go.

[00:54:01] [SPEAKER_05]: And when you're driving to the south, it stands out like crazy.

[00:54:07] [SPEAKER_05]: So it's a great area there.

[00:54:11] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it's super cool.

[00:54:13] [SPEAKER_03]: And last but not least, Fit2Hike603 completed the 67 4,000 foot peaks of New England on Mount Katahdin.

[00:54:25] [SPEAKER_03]: So congratulations.

[00:54:28] [SPEAKER_05]: Okay, so.

[00:54:29] [SPEAKER_03]: Do we have a winner?

[00:54:31] [SPEAKER_05]: Oh my God.

[00:54:33] [SPEAKER_05]: Hmm.

[00:54:35] [SPEAKER_05]: So I guess like Burnt Meadow is my, like that's my home.

[00:54:39] [SPEAKER_05]: All right, so here we go.

[00:54:42] [SPEAKER_05]: Obviously like Fit2Hike603 is going to win because she can finish, she finished her 67.

[00:54:48] [SPEAKER_05]: It's a she, right?

[00:54:50] [SPEAKER_03]: I think it is.

[00:54:51] [SPEAKER_03]: Well in the pictures, yes.

[00:54:52] [SPEAKER_05]: So John, you win.

[00:54:56] [SPEAKER_05]: But I think JK Lapkow who completed the Harriman 400 mile, like they win too, but maybe they don't win as much.

[00:55:05] [SPEAKER_05]: They win a little less than, and then Steve Summits because Burnt Meadow, I got to give a shout out, like they win too, but not as much as the other two.

[00:55:17] [SPEAKER_03]: Excellent.

[00:55:18] [SPEAKER_03]: The wise man distributes justice evenly.

[00:55:24] [SPEAKER_03]: All right, so congratulations to everybody.

[00:55:28] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh wow, yeah, good work.

[00:55:30] [SPEAKER_05]: Excellent.

[00:55:31] [SPEAKER_05]: All right Stomp, so this is, so we're going to go into the segment here.

[00:55:34] [SPEAKER_05]: You got a chance to sit down and talk with Jeez Louise, so let's go into that and then we'll come back out on the other side and we're going to talk about fall foliage.

[00:55:44] [SPEAKER_03]: All right, Hulu hoop, here we come.

[00:55:46] [SPEAKER_05]: Diddly did it, diddly did it.

[00:56:04] [SPEAKER_12]: It's time for Slashers Guest of the Week.

[00:56:07] [SPEAKER_12]: Very cool, very cool.

[00:56:18] [SPEAKER_03]: All right, so we are rolling.

[00:56:20] [SPEAKER_03]: Welcome Amy Lee to the Woodpecker's studio in the great town of Thornton, New Hampshire.

[00:56:28] [SPEAKER_03]: Welcome aboard, thank you for coming over.

[00:56:30] [SPEAKER_03]: This is so cool.

[00:56:31] [SPEAKER_13]: Thanks for having me.

[00:56:32] [SPEAKER_03]: So as you know Mike couldn't make it, he's getting his gums chomped up.

[00:56:37] [SPEAKER_13]: I hope it goes well.

[00:56:38] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I'm hoping, well I hope it doesn't go well.

[00:56:40] [SPEAKER_03]: I hope he looks like Flavor Flav after or who else, who else?

[00:56:46] [SPEAKER_03]: Maybe Tom, he'll probably come out looking like Tom Cruise or something like that, knowing him.

[00:56:50] [SPEAKER_03]: But so Amy, we gave the listeners sort of a prep as to what you're all about and you go under the name of Jeez Louise Hoops.

[00:57:01] [SPEAKER_03]: I do.

[00:57:01] [SPEAKER_03]: Which is super cool and just to give a quick rundown for the listeners.

[00:57:06] [SPEAKER_03]: Several months ago, just beating the YouTube algorithm to death, watching all kinds of weird stuff, your channel popped up on my YouTube feed out of the blue.

[00:57:19] [SPEAKER_03]: And there's all kinds of random stuff up on my feed anyway, you name it.

[00:57:22] [SPEAKER_03]: It's just, it's sort of bizarre.

[00:57:24] [SPEAKER_03]: You wouldn't want to see it, you'd be very uncomfortable.

[00:57:26] [SPEAKER_03]: But yours popped up and so I started following you ever since and tried to reach out to you several times.

[00:57:34] [SPEAKER_03]: And ultimately we connected somehow over the last month or two via Instagram and whatnot, but we're really glad to have you here.

[00:57:44] [SPEAKER_03]: So your schtick is what? What are you doing out there in the mountains?

[00:57:50] [SPEAKER_13]: Oh wow, that is a big question.

[00:57:55] [SPEAKER_13]: Okay, so I'm just hiking.

[00:57:58] [SPEAKER_13]: I don't know, I turned 50 this year and I have just been trying to do new things.

[00:58:07] [SPEAKER_13]: Let's see, I'd have to back up and say that I quit drinking in 2020 and I quit nicotine.

[00:58:16] [SPEAKER_13]: And so at that point I kind of needed to find something to do with myself because I had all sorts of time and energy.

[00:58:23] [SPEAKER_13]: And so I got into Pilates first, which was kind of random.

[00:58:29] [SPEAKER_13]: I did a thousand consecutive days of Pilates to go along with my first thousand days of not drinking.

[00:58:37] [SPEAKER_13]: From there I got into snowshoeing and did like 80 consecutive days of that.

[00:58:43] [SPEAKER_13]: And then when that stopped, when the snow melted rather, I got sad and didn't know what to do.

[00:58:51] [SPEAKER_13]: And my friends said, take your snowshoes off and go hiking.

[00:58:55] [SPEAKER_13]: And so I've been doing that.

[00:58:58] [SPEAKER_03]: So you're not a hiker? You're not like a long-term hiker?

[00:59:01] [SPEAKER_13]: No, no, I am very different than most of your guests, I'd say from what I've heard.

[00:59:08] [SPEAKER_13]: Like I was not an outdoorsy child. My parents were into boats, so I liked swimming and fishing and that kind of thing.

[00:59:15] [SPEAKER_13]: But I wasn't hiking. Going outside was like when my mom was like, go outside and lock the door because she needed us to go out.

[00:59:28] [SPEAKER_13]: But I don't know. Mostly I just spent a lot of time swimming and that kind of thing.

[00:59:37] [SPEAKER_13]: I got into ballet and gymnastics and tap dancing when I was younger. So anything kind of performance-y.

[00:59:48] [SPEAKER_03]: So was there a moment that precipitated all this? That precipitated this change in your life?

[00:59:54] [SPEAKER_13]: Oh, so many.

[00:59:55] [SPEAKER_13]: So growing up, I didn't really follow a traditional path.

[01:00:02] [SPEAKER_13]: And I graduated early from Mount Mansfield, which is where I went to high school.

[01:00:08] [SPEAKER_13]: And I went on to UVM and spent two and a half years there until I realized I was way more interested in the band Fish and Boys.

[01:00:18] [SPEAKER_13]: And so I withdrew from school and went to a lot of concerts and became a waitress.

[01:00:26] [SPEAKER_13]: I mean, through the years I had kids, I got married.

[01:00:31] [SPEAKER_13]: So my dad, who lived in New Hampshire in his later years, which I mean that makes him sound really old. He was 60 when he passed away.

[01:00:39] [SPEAKER_13]: My dad got sick and I started drinking even more.

[01:00:44] [SPEAKER_13]: And I was going to New Hampshire every weekend to visit him.

[01:00:48] [SPEAKER_03]: Okay, so he was a New Hampshire guy?

[01:00:50] [SPEAKER_13]: Yeah, he lived in Hebron.

[01:00:53] [SPEAKER_13]: And so I'd go to visit him and I was just kind of drinking, trying to drink my problems away.

[01:01:00] [SPEAKER_13]: And he passed away in 2011.

[01:01:05] [SPEAKER_13]: And then right after that, I had been in a bad relationship that finally ended.

[01:01:11] [SPEAKER_13]: And I guess I was kind of just like looking to recreate myself or do something.

[01:01:17] [SPEAKER_13]: I guess in 2020 reached the, maybe it was the pandemic that scared me straight.

[01:01:23] [SPEAKER_13]: But it finally was enough time for me to get my shit together and stop drinking.

[01:01:29] [SPEAKER_13]: And I stopped smoking.

[01:01:32] [SPEAKER_13]: So that's what led me to change my direction and get into exercise.

[01:01:38] [SPEAKER_03]: Wow, okay.

[01:01:40] [SPEAKER_03]: I was just talking to somebody recently who quit smoking and gained a boatload of weight.

[01:01:48] [SPEAKER_03]: Did you experience that or was that the whole effort with the hiking and everything else?

[01:01:53] [SPEAKER_13]: So I quit smoking first, which most people quit alcohol first.

[01:01:59] [SPEAKER_13]: But I just like if most people do it this way, I want to do it that way.

[01:02:04] [SPEAKER_13]: And I also knew that nicotine was going to be a real bitch for me.

[01:02:10] [SPEAKER_13]: How long had you smoked?

[01:02:12] [SPEAKER_13]: Since I was stealing cigarettes out of the ashtray of my mom's ashtray.

[01:02:19] [SPEAKER_13]: A long time.

[01:02:24] [SPEAKER_13]: So yeah, I quit those things.

[01:02:27] [SPEAKER_13]: And I don't know, also the pandemic was going on and that was just like such a mind.

[01:02:36] [SPEAKER_13]: Yeah.

[01:02:37] [SPEAKER_13]: That was really hard to deal with.

[01:02:39] [SPEAKER_13]: Oh sure.

[01:02:40] [SPEAKER_13]: I don't know, I guess we took to hiking.

[01:02:46] [SPEAKER_13]: What else was there to do?

[01:02:48] [SPEAKER_13]: We were supposed to stay away from people.

[01:02:50] [SPEAKER_03]: The entire world did it seemed.

[01:02:52] [SPEAKER_13]: And we live in a pretty gorgeous place.

[01:02:55] [SPEAKER_13]: We live in the Northeast Kingdom of Vermont, which is like there's Jay Peak and Bear Mountain.

[01:03:02] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh my goodness, we could talk about the pandemic dynamics for hours I bet.

[01:03:08] [SPEAKER_03]: You live in Vermont, correct?

[01:03:12] [SPEAKER_03]: So did you experience what we experienced over here with some of the locals being aggressive against people from out of state coming to hike and using your...

[01:03:22] [SPEAKER_13]: Yeah, I mostly saw that online.

[01:03:30] [SPEAKER_13]: It was freaky for me hiking at first.

[01:03:35] [SPEAKER_13]: When I'd pass people, I'd turn my head, I'd hold my breath.

[01:03:40] [SPEAKER_13]: I didn't want to make conversations and it's still like coming out of that where learning to be a social person again.

[01:03:49] [SPEAKER_13]: Because it can be really social and people can be so friendly.

[01:03:53] [SPEAKER_13]: But I don't know, like I said, the pandemic really kind of messed with me.

[01:03:57] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh yeah, weird times.

[01:03:59] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[01:03:59] [SPEAKER_03]: That was always peculiar, the walk around.

[01:04:02] [SPEAKER_03]: I remember going up Welch Dickey a number of times and people would literally bushwhack into the woods several feet to go around.

[01:04:11] [SPEAKER_03]: It was such a strange time.

[01:04:13] [SPEAKER_03]: But anyway, okay, so here you are, you're exercising, you're finding all this cool stuff and then you dive into this content creation.

[01:04:23] [SPEAKER_03]: So let's backtrack.

[01:04:25] [SPEAKER_03]: What did you do over the years to bring you to this place where you're making such cool content?

[01:04:31] [SPEAKER_03]: And we'll talk about your channel and your videos later, but let's start early.

[01:04:36] [SPEAKER_13]: Okay. When I was younger, I was into, like I said, tap dancing, ballet, gymnastics,

[01:04:45] [SPEAKER_13]: basically anything where I could dress up and perform.

[01:04:49] [SPEAKER_13]: But the weird thing is I always had extreme anxiety as well, performance anxiety, but I wanted to perform.

[01:04:57] [SPEAKER_13]: That's probably where a lot of the alcohol came in later, I don't know.

[01:05:02] [SPEAKER_13]: So, I don't know.

[01:05:04] [SPEAKER_13]: Let's see, my hula hoop story is an interesting one.

[01:05:09] [SPEAKER_13]: So when, let's see, it was probably the early 2000s, I got my kids a Wii.

[01:05:17] [SPEAKER_13]: Yeah, I didn't hula hoop when I was a kid either.

[01:05:19] [SPEAKER_13]: I didn't hike and I didn't hula hoop.

[01:05:21] [SPEAKER_03]: The electronic Wii.

[01:05:22] [SPEAKER_13]: Yeah, a Wii, because it was marketed as, you know, your kids will be exercising while they're playing their video games.

[01:05:29] [SPEAKER_13]: It's true though.

[01:05:31] [SPEAKER_13]: Okay, I'm down. So we were doing that and got like rock bands too and cool accessories.

[01:05:38] [SPEAKER_13]: And so we got the balance board, which is like for sports.

[01:05:41] [SPEAKER_13]: And they had this one that was hula hooping.

[01:05:45] [SPEAKER_13]: Okay, so my kids would like kick my ass at like every game.

[01:05:50] [SPEAKER_13]: Like my oldest learned he didn't even have to like do proper, like he didn't have to hold his body and do the golf and swing in the right way.

[01:05:59] [SPEAKER_13]: He could just sit on the couch and flick his wrist and like get the job done and still win.

[01:06:04] [SPEAKER_13]: So the only thing that I was good at or better than the kids at was the hula hooping one on the balance board.

[01:06:11] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh man, that's great.

[01:06:12] [SPEAKER_13]: So it became a champion and it became like this thing where I just like did that all the time.

[01:06:16] [SPEAKER_13]: And when you turn on the Wii, it says make sure you stretch before you do this.

[01:06:21] [SPEAKER_13]: And I was like, whatever, it's a video game. That's stupid.

[01:06:25] [SPEAKER_13]: So after a while, like meanwhile, I was still visiting my dad on the weekends.

[01:06:29] [SPEAKER_13]: So I was doing a lot of driving, like four hour drives.

[01:06:33] [SPEAKER_13]: So what happened is I really messed up my hip flexor and I had to go to PT because of it.

[01:06:40] [SPEAKER_13]: Oh, my cyber hula hooping, which was my first hula hooping.

[01:06:44] [SPEAKER_03]: Wow, you're like the first cyber hula hooping casualty.

[01:06:48] [SPEAKER_03]: That's wild.

[01:06:49] [SPEAKER_13]: Yeah, so I recovered from that luckily.

[01:06:53] [SPEAKER_13]: And I don't know, years later, I was at a friend's house who had a hula hoop and she had made it and she told me how she made it.

[01:07:00] [SPEAKER_13]: I was like, OK, and I went home and then I went to the hardware store and got the materials.

[01:07:06] [SPEAKER_13]: It was like tubing and a coupler.

[01:07:10] [SPEAKER_03]: OK, so this is literally like the Luke Skywalker story.

[01:07:14] [SPEAKER_03]: You're making your own lightsaber?

[01:07:15] [SPEAKER_13]: Yeah, so I made that and did like duct tape around to do a cool design.

[01:07:20] [SPEAKER_13]: And then I spent the next day and a half like hula hooping in my yard, like it's falling and picking it up and it falling and trying not to let it hurt like my pride.

[01:07:32] [SPEAKER_13]: And as people drove by, but after like a day and a half, I finally got it.

[01:07:37] [SPEAKER_13]: And then I just haven't been able to really stop.

[01:07:41] [SPEAKER_13]: I mean, I stopped to go to bed and like to work and stuff like that, you know, but like.

[01:07:48] [SPEAKER_13]: I don't know, it became like this fidget toy for me where I just like decided then to start doing everything weird that I could do with my hula hoop, like play my guitar or eat a hot dog or read a book or just ran like have a cup of tea like and I'd have my roommate at the time like take a picture of me.

[01:08:07] [SPEAKER_13]: That's so cool.

[01:08:10] [SPEAKER_03]: No, that's so cool.

[01:08:11] [SPEAKER_03]: I thought I mean watching your videos, I thought this was something that well, this is definitely a person that's been hula hooping for like four decades.

[01:08:20] [SPEAKER_03]: You know what I mean?

[01:08:20] [SPEAKER_03]: That was my impression.

[01:08:21] [SPEAKER_03]: That's really cool.

[01:08:22] [SPEAKER_03]: So you just got hooked and here you are going nuts.

[01:08:27] [SPEAKER_03]: Wow, this is great.

[01:08:29] [SPEAKER_03]: So tell me a little bit more about your dad.

[01:08:31] [SPEAKER_03]: I know you and I have talked briefly in the background, but we have a firefighter connection actually.

[01:08:38] [SPEAKER_13]: So my dad when he died, he had been living in Hebron, New Hampshire, and he'd been serving as a firefighter and EMT for Bridgewater.

[01:08:49] [SPEAKER_13]: When he passed away in Hebron at the Public Safety Center, they have a granite bench that has his name engraved, which is pretty cool.

[01:09:00] [SPEAKER_13]: And they still have his firefighter helmet there, which they all signed.

[01:09:05] [SPEAKER_03]: It's in the actual station still?

[01:09:07] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[01:09:07] [SPEAKER_13]: They treat him like he's a hero.

[01:09:09] [SPEAKER_13]: So what's his name?

[01:09:11] [SPEAKER_13]: Ronald Bissonette.

[01:09:12] [SPEAKER_03]: Okay.

[01:09:13] [SPEAKER_03]: All right.

[01:09:13] [SPEAKER_03]: Interesting.

[01:09:14] [SPEAKER_03]: You don't have relatives around here, do you?

[01:09:16] [SPEAKER_03]: In this region?

[01:09:19] [SPEAKER_13]: No, I don't think so.

[01:09:20] [SPEAKER_13]: Okay.

[01:09:20] [SPEAKER_13]: Like married in.

[01:09:23] [SPEAKER_13]: Oh, I see.

[01:09:23] [SPEAKER_13]: Gotcha.

[01:09:24] [SPEAKER_13]: All right, cool.

[01:09:25] [SPEAKER_13]: So yeah, maybe.

[01:09:26] [SPEAKER_13]: Maybe.

[01:09:26] [SPEAKER_13]: We'll talk off air.

[01:09:29] [SPEAKER_03]: All right, cool.

[01:09:30] [SPEAKER_03]: Well, that's great because my grandfather was the captain in Lynn, Massachusetts in Wyoming Square and he fought a lot of the big...

[01:09:40] [SPEAKER_03]: They were doing a lot of shoe building and shoe manufacturing.

[01:09:44] [SPEAKER_03]: So the oils and whatnot just like...

[01:09:46] [SPEAKER_03]: So there's quite a history there.

[01:09:48] [SPEAKER_03]: And we had his helmet too.

[01:09:51] [SPEAKER_03]: We had his coat, his boots, the whole thing.

[01:09:53] [SPEAKER_03]: So that's really neat.

[01:09:55] [SPEAKER_13]: I do want to say about my dad.

[01:09:57] [SPEAKER_13]: I didn't hike hardly at all as a kid.

[01:10:00] [SPEAKER_13]: I probably hiked Camel's Hump and Mount Mansfield on school field trips because I grew up in Underhill, Vermont.

[01:10:06] [SPEAKER_13]: So those were the field trips.

[01:10:08] [SPEAKER_13]: But my dad took me on one of the only hikes I went on as a really young adult to Sterling Pond.

[01:10:17] [SPEAKER_13]: And that was really cool.

[01:10:19] [SPEAKER_13]: And that was the first hike that my partner and I went on when we started our hiking.

[01:10:25] [SPEAKER_03]: So how did you go from hula hooping all day long to hiking specifically?

[01:10:31] [SPEAKER_03]: Would you say hiking is probably your favorite activity with the hoop now?

[01:10:35] [SPEAKER_13]: Oh, hiking is like this...

[01:10:39] [SPEAKER_13]: It's hard. I almost wore my shirt that says I hate hiking.

[01:10:44] [SPEAKER_13]: Because I bought that in the beginning because I thought it was funny and ironic and kind of true.

[01:10:49] [SPEAKER_03]: It is true.

[01:10:51] [SPEAKER_13]: So I've always been like a self...

[01:10:54] [SPEAKER_13]: In the past rather, I was a self-proclaimed heathen.

[01:10:58] [SPEAKER_13]: And I didn't do hard things.

[01:11:00] [SPEAKER_13]: I did things that came easy.

[01:11:01] [SPEAKER_13]: Okay.

[01:11:02] [SPEAKER_13]: So the experience of hiking, especially hiking up big mountains at this time in my life.

[01:11:10] [SPEAKER_13]: And I don't have my vices anymore.

[01:11:12] [SPEAKER_13]: I don't know.

[01:11:14] [SPEAKER_13]: I'm like a 50-year-old woman trying to get into exercise now.

[01:11:20] [SPEAKER_13]: So hiking...

[01:11:23] [SPEAKER_13]: It's rewarding.

[01:11:24] [SPEAKER_13]: I like it sometimes.

[01:11:26] [SPEAKER_13]: It's fun occasionally.

[01:11:28] [SPEAKER_13]: But there's so many times I've cried on the trail.

[01:11:33] [SPEAKER_13]: I lost it.

[01:11:35] [SPEAKER_13]: Like, I hate hiking.

[01:11:36] [SPEAKER_13]: I don't even know why I do this.

[01:11:39] [SPEAKER_13]: And that kind of stuff.

[01:11:41] [SPEAKER_13]: Meltdowns that I'm not proud about.

[01:11:43] [SPEAKER_03]: That's fascinating.

[01:11:44] [SPEAKER_03]: Now on your Instagram, I did notice that you posted a picture of your logo with some of your statistics.

[01:11:50] [SPEAKER_03]: So are you like a list hiker now?

[01:11:54] [SPEAKER_03]: Do you have objectives with the hoop?

[01:11:56] [SPEAKER_13]: I need lists in life to get by.

[01:12:01] [SPEAKER_13]: So we never planned on starting the New Hampshire 48 and doing a list.

[01:12:06] [SPEAKER_13]: We just went one day.

[01:12:08] [SPEAKER_13]: My boyfriend was like, why don't we try hiking?

[01:12:13] [SPEAKER_13]: Well, first I want to back up actually.

[01:12:15] [SPEAKER_13]: I want to say that with the hula hoop, how hula hooping and hiking crossed over was...

[01:12:22] [SPEAKER_13]: We'd gotten into hiking like in 2021.

[01:12:26] [SPEAKER_13]: We started hiking.

[01:12:29] [SPEAKER_13]: Then when the winter came, we started snowshoeing some mountains like Larraway and Stowe Pinnacle

[01:12:35] [SPEAKER_13]: and just like some bigger stuff than what I had been doing.

[01:12:40] [SPEAKER_13]: And the following spring, which was the spring of 2022, at some random point, I was like,

[01:12:51] [SPEAKER_13]: I want a hula hoop on the highest point in Vermont.

[01:12:55] [SPEAKER_13]: It was like in the evening and it was just random.

[01:12:57] [SPEAKER_13]: I was like, I want to do that.

[01:12:58] [SPEAKER_13]: I want to hula hoop on Mount Mansfield.

[01:13:01] [SPEAKER_13]: And I was like, how do I do this?

[01:13:03] [SPEAKER_13]: And then I was like, I wonder...

[01:13:04] [SPEAKER_13]: And I really thought about just bringing one of my big hoops and carrying it up.

[01:13:08] [SPEAKER_13]: And I was like, that's going to be hard, but I'll do it.

[01:13:11] [SPEAKER_13]: And then I just decided to look online.

[01:13:13] [SPEAKER_13]: Like, I bet they make hula hoops that come apart.

[01:13:15] [SPEAKER_13]: And they do.

[01:13:16] [SPEAKER_13]: They're weighted hula hoops.

[01:13:17] [SPEAKER_03]: Instead of carrying an entire hoop up.

[01:13:21] [SPEAKER_03]: Exactly.

[01:13:21] [SPEAKER_13]: So I ordered that and as soon as I got it, we hiked Jay Peak.

[01:13:27] [SPEAKER_13]: And I whipped it out and there's a few people up there who looked at me like I was the strangest person on earth.

[01:13:34] [SPEAKER_13]: And I felt really like uncomfortable in a way, like nervous.

[01:13:39] [SPEAKER_03]: I can totally relate.

[01:13:41] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know if you saw my stupid pool noodle video I made.

[01:13:45] [SPEAKER_13]: No, I've heard about it.

[01:13:46] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, so I did the same thing.

[01:13:48] [SPEAKER_03]: So I was wondering about that because a lot of your videos, it's just you.

[01:13:51] [SPEAKER_13]: Yeah, we tried to kind of do a...

[01:13:54] [SPEAKER_13]: I don't want to...

[01:13:55] [SPEAKER_13]: It was kind of like Banksy in the sense that we tried to go in and do it when people weren't there.

[01:14:01] [SPEAKER_13]: We try and hike early.

[01:14:02] [SPEAKER_13]: We try and get up there and just get it done.

[01:14:07] [SPEAKER_13]: Because I don't always have good times when I'm hiking, to be truthful.

[01:14:12] [SPEAKER_13]: You know, it's hard work.

[01:14:13] [SPEAKER_13]: It is.

[01:14:14] [SPEAKER_13]: And sometimes when I'm really struggling, it takes all I can to focus on my breath and focus on my pace and all that.

[01:14:22] [SPEAKER_13]: So then adding in talking to others and stuff, sometimes you're not in the mood, right?

[01:14:30] [SPEAKER_03]: So you're hula hooping in front of a crowd of people.

[01:14:33] [SPEAKER_13]: It's like I'm asking for it, right?

[01:14:35] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, so how did you transition into, hey, I have an idea.

[01:14:38] [SPEAKER_03]: I want to start recording this and making some content.

[01:14:40] [SPEAKER_13]: Oh, always from the beginning.

[01:14:42] [SPEAKER_13]: Because the first thing I was into was photography and that was from my childhood on.

[01:14:49] [SPEAKER_13]: I mean, I actually did it in high school, like took photography and used a real camera.

[01:14:55] [SPEAKER_13]: Now I just use my iPhone.

[01:14:57] [SPEAKER_13]: We actually have a GoPro.

[01:14:59] [SPEAKER_13]: We just haven't started using it.

[01:15:00] [SPEAKER_13]: I feel like we have our hands in so many different...

[01:15:04] [SPEAKER_13]: Like, I don't know.

[01:15:06] [SPEAKER_13]: Well, that's exciting.

[01:15:07] [SPEAKER_13]: It's super cool.

[01:15:08] [SPEAKER_13]: Yeah.

[01:15:08] [SPEAKER_03]: Maybe there's a use of a drone in the future.

[01:15:12] [SPEAKER_03]: What do you think about that?

[01:15:13] [SPEAKER_13]: I would love that.

[01:15:14] [SPEAKER_13]: I feel like I need a crew.

[01:15:18] [SPEAKER_03]: Well, after this conversation, I'm sure people are going to reach out and say, hey, I can help.

[01:15:23] [SPEAKER_03]: Right on.

[01:15:23] [SPEAKER_03]: Wow, that's really great.

[01:15:25] [SPEAKER_03]: All right, so you're making these cool videos.

[01:15:28] [SPEAKER_03]: You're making the content.

[01:15:29] [SPEAKER_03]: Where did you get the name, Jeez Louise Hoops?

[01:15:32] [SPEAKER_03]: How'd you decide on that?

[01:15:34] [SPEAKER_03]: That's always a process.

[01:15:35] [SPEAKER_13]: Yes, Louise is my middle name.

[01:15:40] [SPEAKER_13]: So, Jeez Louise, I honestly came up with myself.

[01:15:43] [SPEAKER_13]: I did not get given that name during my drinking days.

[01:15:48] [SPEAKER_13]: And it was kind of like when I felt like being outrageous or something.

[01:15:52] [SPEAKER_13]: I don't know.

[01:15:53] [SPEAKER_13]: It just kind of came on like this.

[01:15:55] [SPEAKER_13]: I don't know.

[01:15:56] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, yeah.

[01:15:57] [SPEAKER_03]: I did some research on the name.

[01:15:59] [SPEAKER_03]: There's like no clear history as to where that name came from.

[01:16:02] [SPEAKER_03]: You know, you can look something up and say, what's the meaning of this name or word?

[01:16:05] [SPEAKER_03]: And generally there's a definition or some history.

[01:16:10] [SPEAKER_03]: Jeez Louise is not a clear cut history to the name itself.

[01:16:15] [SPEAKER_03]: It's very interesting.

[01:16:16] [SPEAKER_03]: Some references come back to like the 30s, but more like slang.

[01:16:22] [SPEAKER_03]: So who knows?

[01:16:23] [SPEAKER_03]: Very interesting.

[01:16:25] [SPEAKER_03]: What was your plan for the videos?

[01:16:27] [SPEAKER_03]: You've got the name.

[01:16:28] [SPEAKER_03]: Now, what did you want to accomplish?

[01:16:29] [SPEAKER_13]: Before I was making hula hoop videos, I'd always wanted to make videos.

[01:16:37] [SPEAKER_13]: And I just didn't even know how.

[01:16:40] [SPEAKER_13]: And once again, one of my friends was like,

[01:16:42] [SPEAKER_13]: well, I thought anybody with an iPhone could use iMovie.

[01:16:45] [SPEAKER_13]: And I'm like, what's that?

[01:16:46] [SPEAKER_13]: Oh, that's that app I deleted off my phone.

[01:16:49] [SPEAKER_13]: Oh, yeah, yeah.

[01:16:50] [SPEAKER_13]: So I checked it out and I was like, oh, this isn't...

[01:16:54] [SPEAKER_13]: I just started making random videos, just random stuff.

[01:16:58] [SPEAKER_13]: And so I guess it's just always happening at the same time that I had this idea.

[01:17:04] [SPEAKER_13]: I'm going to hula hoop on Mount Mansfield.

[01:17:07] [SPEAKER_13]: So after J Peak, the following week we hiked Belvedere and I hula hooped there.

[01:17:13] [SPEAKER_13]: And then the following week we did Mansfield.

[01:17:15] [SPEAKER_13]: And I have to say like hula hooping,

[01:17:18] [SPEAKER_13]: I'm not trying to push people to do this by any means.

[01:17:23] [SPEAKER_13]: But it is quite exhilarating at times to be on top of a mountain

[01:17:27] [SPEAKER_13]: and looking out at the view and hula hooping.

[01:17:32] [SPEAKER_03]: No, it's great. It's awesome.

[01:17:33] [SPEAKER_13]: I think it's like I'm a dopamine junkie.

[01:17:35] [SPEAKER_13]: I gave up my greatest sources with alcohol and nicotine.

[01:17:40] [SPEAKER_13]: So now I'm like looking to like fill it in with better things.

[01:17:44] [SPEAKER_03]: You know, it's so cool.

[01:17:45] [SPEAKER_03]: It takes grit to get up there and do that.

[01:17:48] [SPEAKER_03]: And it's self-deprecating.

[01:17:49] [SPEAKER_03]: It's like, I don't care what people think.

[01:17:51] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm just going to do this.

[01:17:52] [SPEAKER_03]: It's fantastic.

[01:17:53] [SPEAKER_03]: All right. Now the other piece of the puzzle, the music.

[01:17:56] [SPEAKER_03]: Your music selection for the videos is perfect.

[01:18:00] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm glad you like it.

[01:18:01] [SPEAKER_03]: No, it all ties together.

[01:18:02] [SPEAKER_03]: And to me it seems like your videos are like a time capsule to an earlier innocent age.

[01:18:08] [SPEAKER_03]: It's so cool.

[01:18:09] [SPEAKER_13]: I kind of feel that way too.

[01:18:11] [SPEAKER_13]: Like I look back in the songs, well, I'm quite moved by music.

[01:18:16] [SPEAKER_13]: And I'll feel moved by like each one.

[01:18:20] [SPEAKER_13]: I pick the song just depending on the mood of the hike and what I can find that I like out of the selection I have.

[01:18:29] [SPEAKER_13]: In the beginning, I was like ready to make my own songs and all that.

[01:18:35] [SPEAKER_13]: It's a lot of work.

[01:18:36] [SPEAKER_13]: Yeah, forget that.

[01:18:39] [SPEAKER_13]: I've been pretty happy with the music.

[01:18:42] [SPEAKER_13]: Oh, it's perfect.

[01:18:43] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't think you could pick a better genre or few genres that work so well with it.

[01:18:50] [SPEAKER_03]: Go ahead. I'm sorry.

[01:18:51] [SPEAKER_13]: I was just going to say, and I feel like the progression too, because I do have to say that in the beginning of my movie making with Hula Hooping and Hiking,

[01:19:02] [SPEAKER_13]: I was watching some of those and they're so bad.

[01:19:06] [SPEAKER_13]: Like the video.

[01:19:08] [SPEAKER_13]: It's just like, in the way I put it together, I didn't even know how to use the app I was using and the music choices too.

[01:19:15] [SPEAKER_13]: And I see kind of the progression of my learning curve.

[01:19:18] [SPEAKER_13]: And my partner's learning curve.

[01:19:21] [SPEAKER_03]: Okay, so you're teaming up to do a lot of this.

[01:19:24] [SPEAKER_03]: So that's why I asked you, did you listen to our early episodes?

[01:19:26] [SPEAKER_03]: Because I can't even listen to them, they're so terrible.

[01:19:29] [SPEAKER_03]: But that's creativity.

[01:19:32] [SPEAKER_03]: It's always progressing and changing and maturing.

[01:19:35] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it's great stuff.

[01:19:38] [SPEAKER_03]: What else?

[01:19:40] [SPEAKER_03]: What software do you use?

[01:19:42] [SPEAKER_03]: Do you use anything in particular or are you just making these right on your phone?

[01:19:45] [SPEAKER_13]: I'm just doing it all on my phone.

[01:19:46] [SPEAKER_13]: That's really impressive.

[01:19:48] [SPEAKER_13]: It's just like the easiest, I know it's not the best quality, which kind of, that does get to me.

[01:19:53] [SPEAKER_03]: You'd never know.

[01:19:55] [SPEAKER_03]: But you see, that's the strength of the whole aesthetic of what you're doing.

[01:20:00] [SPEAKER_03]: Because that's what I mean by it's a time capsule.

[01:20:03] [SPEAKER_03]: It doesn't have to be 4K high def because it's not supposed to be.

[01:20:09] [SPEAKER_13]: It's kind of like a diary entry.

[01:20:11] [SPEAKER_13]: Each video is kind of, I have ADHD and I have a really hard time remembering certain things.

[01:20:19] [SPEAKER_13]: I'll remember some things forever and then most other things I'll need to keep hearing.

[01:20:25] [SPEAKER_13]: It's like, what's that movie, Groundhog Day or whatever it's called.

[01:20:30] [SPEAKER_13]: He's repeating, what's for dinner again mom?

[01:20:33] [SPEAKER_13]: What's for dinner?

[01:20:34] [SPEAKER_13]: Oh man, it's so great.

[01:20:36] [SPEAKER_13]: So anyway, having videos and pictures to look at and they help me remember.

[01:20:42] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, sure. Wow. Amazing.

[01:20:45] [SPEAKER_03]: So I came up with a term for this earlier.

[01:20:49] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't want this to be offensive but I came up with this word thinking about people that have props.

[01:20:56] [SPEAKER_03]: So prop hiking.

[01:20:58] [SPEAKER_03]: And what sets you apart is actually your sort of three dimensional.

[01:21:02] [SPEAKER_03]: Because a lot of people will go up on the mountains and take a picture with,

[01:21:07] [SPEAKER_03]: hey look at I'm on a mountain with a toaster.

[01:21:09] [SPEAKER_03]: But you break through that and you make it so immersive and three dimensional I guess is a good word for it.

[01:21:16] [SPEAKER_03]: Thank you.

[01:21:17] [SPEAKER_03]: It's fun to watch.

[01:21:20] [SPEAKER_13]: My biggest motivation, what I'm trying to do is art.

[01:21:24] [SPEAKER_13]: Yeah, exactly.

[01:21:25] [SPEAKER_13]: In the end, it's not hiking that I'm trying to do.

[01:21:28] [SPEAKER_13]: I'm trying to get the picture and the video and like, I don't know, capture something.

[01:21:33] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, I think you have for sure.

[01:21:35] [SPEAKER_03]: It's very unique.

[01:21:37] [SPEAKER_03]: It's not cheesy at all.

[01:21:39] [SPEAKER_03]: It makes you think.

[01:21:40] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, thank you. Wow.

[01:21:42] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it's great.

[01:21:45] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it's great stuff.

[01:21:47] [SPEAKER_03]: Let's see, back to hiking though.

[01:21:48] [SPEAKER_03]: How do you prepare for your hikes?

[01:21:51] [SPEAKER_03]: I did notice you had one post that gave me the impression that you don't really hike in the winter as much as you...

[01:21:57] [SPEAKER_13]: Not as much. I have rhinoids.

[01:22:00] [SPEAKER_13]: I was going to ask you that.

[01:22:03] [SPEAKER_13]: And all of my life I've had it and it's really like, my fingers will freeze like so fast.

[01:22:10] [SPEAKER_13]: So we're still trying to like lock in.

[01:22:13] [SPEAKER_13]: Actually, I listened to one of your shows and one of your hikers that you were talking to was talking about this lotion that you can put on your hands like warm skin or something.

[01:22:24] [SPEAKER_13]: It's called... I actually bought some to try that.

[01:22:27] [SPEAKER_13]: I also have Ultimates, which are like these like...

[01:22:29] [SPEAKER_13]: The mitts are the way to go.

[01:22:30] [SPEAKER_13]: Crazy big mitts.

[01:22:33] [SPEAKER_13]: Yeah, I've learned like I have to go in with mitts, go in hot and then take them off later, never going cold with my hands.

[01:22:40] [SPEAKER_13]: But like I cannot hula hoop past like, I don't know, like 40 degrees.

[01:22:46] [SPEAKER_13]: I can't really operate the buttons.

[01:22:50] [SPEAKER_13]: So like in terms of hula hooping, I don't do that.

[01:22:53] [SPEAKER_13]: In terms of hiking, we do some in the winter, some snowshoeing, some micro spiking.

[01:22:58] [SPEAKER_13]: Not as much though.

[01:23:00] [SPEAKER_13]: It's so much heavier, all the gear and like...

[01:23:02] [SPEAKER_13]: It is. It's beautiful though.

[01:23:04] [SPEAKER_13]: I sweat. It's like I have such a hard time regulating my temperature.

[01:23:09] [SPEAKER_13]: I feel like I'm too hot, I'm too cold.

[01:23:12] [SPEAKER_13]: I'm just like, it's like I'm constantly like I have to take another layer off.

[01:23:16] [SPEAKER_13]: Now I'm too cold.

[01:23:17] [SPEAKER_13]: It's just the whole time.

[01:23:18] [SPEAKER_13]: I'm like, I feel so needy.

[01:23:20] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that's the whole trick with winter.

[01:23:22] [SPEAKER_03]: It's not easy at all.

[01:23:24] [SPEAKER_03]: It takes quite a while.

[01:23:25] [SPEAKER_03]: It's a learning curve.

[01:23:27] [SPEAKER_03]: Unlike summer, you know, oh, I'm sweaty, top to bottom.

[01:23:31] [SPEAKER_03]: You can get by with that.

[01:23:32] [SPEAKER_03]: But in the winter, it's just not the same.

[01:23:35] [SPEAKER_03]: Wow. Okay.

[01:23:36] [SPEAKER_03]: So I do want to see more winter videos though, personally.

[01:23:39] [SPEAKER_13]: Yeah, they are pretty cool.

[01:23:41] [SPEAKER_13]: And I... okay.

[01:23:43] [SPEAKER_03]: Is that a deal?

[01:23:44] [SPEAKER_13]: All right.

[01:23:45] [SPEAKER_13]: I'll put at least a couple more out.

[01:23:50] [SPEAKER_03]: All right.

[01:23:50] [SPEAKER_03]: So we talked about the video, your production method.

[01:23:54] [SPEAKER_03]: I noticed that you speed up some of your frames too.

[01:23:57] [SPEAKER_03]: I like that.

[01:23:58] [SPEAKER_13]: Yeah, I used to do all of the frames completely sped up,

[01:24:02] [SPEAKER_13]: which made the pans like a little like sometimes I look at the old panning

[01:24:06] [SPEAKER_13]: and it makes me a little nauseous.

[01:24:08] [SPEAKER_13]: It's so fast.

[01:24:09] [SPEAKER_13]: But so now I kind of tweaking it a little more like it's not all got to be

[01:24:14] [SPEAKER_13]: sped up to the exact same speed.

[01:24:17] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[01:24:17] [SPEAKER_13]: So working with that to try and match it with the music as well.

[01:24:22] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that's excellent.

[01:24:24] [SPEAKER_03]: So any future plans for the whole content or for the channel?

[01:24:29] [SPEAKER_13]: So my hula hoop is in a bag that I made myself.

[01:24:35] [SPEAKER_13]: And me and my partner make gear out of X-Pack and Eco Pack

[01:24:41] [SPEAKER_13]: and Dyneema, which are like earth friendly and they're waterproof.

[01:24:45] [SPEAKER_13]: The things we are making are water resistant at this point,

[01:24:49] [SPEAKER_13]: like wallets, purses, some cinch bags.

[01:24:54] [SPEAKER_13]: We don't have a website yet.

[01:24:56] [SPEAKER_13]: So if anybody's interested, they'd have to get in touch with me.

[01:25:00] [SPEAKER_13]: But yeah, it's called Spruce Fur and we're planning on,

[01:25:04] [SPEAKER_13]: we'll probably do more sewing in the winter.

[01:25:05] [SPEAKER_13]: It's just hard. Like it's been go time.

[01:25:08] [SPEAKER_13]: Like we've been trying to do Maine, the 4,000 footers in Maine.

[01:25:13] [SPEAKER_13]: So we've done 11 of those.

[01:25:14] [SPEAKER_03]: Okay. So much for hiking is not my favorite thing.

[01:25:19] [SPEAKER_13]: I know, it's like I've created a monster.

[01:25:22] [SPEAKER_13]: I'm like a dream of the day when I just like go for a light hike

[01:25:26] [SPEAKER_13]: and I don't have my hula hoop and it's just like easy

[01:25:28] [SPEAKER_13]: because that's like almost two and a half pounds of extra weight.

[01:25:33] [SPEAKER_13]: But then it's like I can't go on a hike without it.

[01:25:36] [SPEAKER_13]: So I'm like, I have this like FOMO or something.

[01:25:38] [SPEAKER_13]: Hula hoop FOMO. I don't even know what that is, but I have it.

[01:25:43] [SPEAKER_03]: All right. So, wow.

[01:25:44] [SPEAKER_03]: So you do the sewing or you're making these beautiful bags

[01:25:49] [SPEAKER_03]: and you did bring a couple here for Mike and I and I really appreciate it.

[01:25:52] [SPEAKER_03]: The bag is absolutely beautiful.

[01:25:55] [SPEAKER_03]: This is like a six by five inch zip bag and it looks perfect for the pack.

[01:26:02] [SPEAKER_03]: And I'm always looking for bags like this.

[01:26:04] [SPEAKER_03]: You should tell us how people can get a hold of you,

[01:26:07] [SPEAKER_03]: what websites are live and let us know where people can get your stuff.

[01:26:13] [SPEAKER_13]: Okay, so my videos are on YouTube under geez Louise hoops.

[01:26:18] [SPEAKER_13]: And I'm on Instagram under geez Louise hoops.

[01:26:23] [SPEAKER_13]: I'm just learning how to Instagram.

[01:26:25] [SPEAKER_13]: I should be so much better. I have three kids.

[01:26:27] [SPEAKER_13]: I mean, they can all do it, but I don't know.

[01:26:30] [SPEAKER_13]: So still working on that.

[01:26:32] [SPEAKER_13]: But I am on Instagram and I'm on Facebook as Amy Lee.

[01:26:36] [SPEAKER_03]: Amy Lee. So a M Y M Y L E E E.

[01:26:40] [SPEAKER_13]: And if you want to do something really old school,

[01:26:43] [SPEAKER_13]: you can email me at geez Louise hoops at Yahoo dot com.

[01:26:51] [SPEAKER_03]: That's so awesome. Oh man, that's great.

[01:26:54] [SPEAKER_03]: So it's G E E Z J.

[01:26:57] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, okay. Gee whiz. I'm going to have to correct all my spelling here.

[01:27:01] [SPEAKER_03]: So gee whiz.

[01:27:03] [SPEAKER_03]: No kidding, huh?

[01:27:04] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, we will correct that before we publish. That's for sure.

[01:27:08] [SPEAKER_03]: Wow. That's fantastic.

[01:27:09] [SPEAKER_03]: So any other thing you want to talk about or let me see.

[01:27:14] [SPEAKER_13]: Okay. So I've done with my hula hoop.

[01:27:19] [SPEAKER_13]: I've done all of the 4000 footers in Vermont.

[01:27:22] [SPEAKER_13]: There's five. I've done the 48 in New Hampshire and I've done 11 out of 14 of Maine.

[01:27:29] [SPEAKER_13]: We have Katahdin and North brother left to do.

[01:27:32] [SPEAKER_13]: I'm not sure when we're going to do that.

[01:27:35] [SPEAKER_13]: Maybe this year, maybe not.

[01:27:36] [SPEAKER_13]: We're trying not we're trying to find the balance between hiking and the rest of life.

[01:27:42] [SPEAKER_13]: Right. And that's hard.

[01:27:45] [SPEAKER_13]: But yeah.

[01:27:47] [SPEAKER_13]: Oh, I did want to mention that with my hiking,

[01:27:51] [SPEAKER_13]: I bring my hula hoop on all my hikes, but I also I got to show you this.

[01:27:56] [SPEAKER_13]: Sure.

[01:27:58] [SPEAKER_13]: I also bring a bag that has a marble in it that I made.

[01:28:07] [SPEAKER_03]: That you made?

[01:28:08] [SPEAKER_13]: That I made that has some ashes from my father in it.

[01:28:12] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh my goodness.

[01:28:12] [SPEAKER_13]: And I bring that on all my hikes.

[01:28:14] [SPEAKER_13]: I actually I didn't bring it on my first hike in New Hampshire, which was Lafayette and Lincoln.

[01:28:18] [SPEAKER_13]: So I had to repeat that hike, which I did.

[01:28:21] [SPEAKER_13]: So that's been on every hike with me.

[01:28:24] [SPEAKER_03]: So it's a legit marble.

[01:28:26] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. Yeah.

[01:28:27] [SPEAKER_03]: How did you make that?

[01:28:28] [SPEAKER_13]: My boyfriend's a glassblower, so he has all the equipment.

[01:28:31] [SPEAKER_13]: We have it in our barn.

[01:28:33] [SPEAKER_13]: And so, wow.

[01:28:34] [SPEAKER_13]: He's teaching me. I made a marble.

[01:28:37] [SPEAKER_13]: That's the level I'm at marble.

[01:28:39] [SPEAKER_03]: That's fantastic.

[01:28:40] [SPEAKER_03]: So you have to get a website up because you guys seem to be so multi-talented.

[01:28:45] [SPEAKER_13]: I didn't even talk about the fire dancing I used to do.

[01:28:52] [SPEAKER_03]: I've seen that once and it was at Ice Castles.

[01:28:55] [SPEAKER_03]: It was very impressive.

[01:28:57] [SPEAKER_03]: So yeah, tell me about it.

[01:28:59] [SPEAKER_13]: Well, I used to do that too.

[01:29:03] [SPEAKER_13]: I was in a fire dancing troupe and I used fire poi,

[01:29:08] [SPEAKER_13]: which are made out of Kevlar.

[01:29:10] [SPEAKER_13]: And I didn't use white gas.

[01:29:13] [SPEAKER_13]: I used lamp oil.

[01:29:15] [SPEAKER_13]: And you just dip them in and light them on fire.

[01:29:18] [SPEAKER_13]: Swing them around.

[01:29:19] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh yeah, I've seen it recently actually.

[01:29:22] [SPEAKER_03]: That's impressive.

[01:29:23] [SPEAKER_03]: So it's not a bar, it's more like a chain.

[01:29:26] [SPEAKER_03]: It's loose.

[01:29:26] [SPEAKER_03]: It's on a chain.

[01:29:27] [SPEAKER_13]: There's like grips.

[01:29:29] [SPEAKER_03]: And it can be super dangerous if you don't know what you're doing.

[01:29:32] [SPEAKER_13]: Oh yeah. I've burned myself. I've hit myself.

[01:29:34] [SPEAKER_13]: Those things are hard when you wail yourself with them.

[01:29:37] [SPEAKER_03]: That's amazing.

[01:29:40] [SPEAKER_03]: Any close calls with Search and Rescue?

[01:29:42] [SPEAKER_03]: Were injuries or anything like that up on trail?

[01:29:44] [SPEAKER_13]: No. You know what?

[01:29:45] [SPEAKER_13]: Knock on wood.

[01:29:48] [SPEAKER_13]: I was like, why is a Search and Rescue podcast

[01:29:51] [SPEAKER_13]: getting in touch with me?

[01:29:53] [SPEAKER_13]: Are they going to try and roast me

[01:29:55] [SPEAKER_13]: because I'm doing unsafe things?

[01:29:58] [SPEAKER_13]: That was my first thought.

[01:29:59] [SPEAKER_13]: Not that I'm paranoid.

[01:30:00] [SPEAKER_03]: No, I mean we're all about local interests

[01:30:03] [SPEAKER_03]: and anything hiking.

[01:30:04] [SPEAKER_03]: And I was actually talking to somebody

[01:30:06] [SPEAKER_03]: just a few days back about the meaning of

[01:30:08] [SPEAKER_03]: the name of the podcast

[01:30:10] [SPEAKER_03]: and the name itself.

[01:30:12] [SPEAKER_03]: Some people think we're a Search and Rescue podcast

[01:30:14] [SPEAKER_03]: because it says that, but that wasn't the point.

[01:30:17] [SPEAKER_03]: It was if you and I were talking about

[01:30:20] [SPEAKER_03]: a story of two people that went out unprepared,

[01:30:23] [SPEAKER_03]: we'd look at each other and go,

[01:30:24] [SPEAKER_03]: that sounds like a Search and Rescue.

[01:30:27] [SPEAKER_13]: About to happen.

[01:30:28] [SPEAKER_03]: That was the context of it.

[01:30:30] [SPEAKER_13]: I haven't. I haven't.

[01:30:32] [SPEAKER_13]: And I'm so, so determined to never need a rescue.

[01:30:36] [SPEAKER_13]: Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's great.

[01:30:37] [SPEAKER_13]: And I have to say,

[01:30:40] [SPEAKER_13]: we try and make what I do look dangerous.

[01:30:43] [SPEAKER_13]: Like more dangerous than what I try.

[01:30:46] [SPEAKER_13]: I'm a safety, like,

[01:30:48] [SPEAKER_13]: I'm not saying I've always been 1000% safe,

[01:30:51] [SPEAKER_13]: but like I really try to be.

[01:30:53] [SPEAKER_13]: Like I try and have firm footing

[01:30:54] [SPEAKER_13]: and we just try and play with the camera

[01:30:56] [SPEAKER_13]: to make it look a little sketch.

[01:30:59] [SPEAKER_03]: So you won't be hula hooping

[01:31:02] [SPEAKER_03]: the terrifying 25 anytime soon?

[01:31:05] [SPEAKER_13]: I have been on several of them.

[01:31:08] [SPEAKER_13]: I've had panic attacks on at least three of them.

[01:31:12] [SPEAKER_13]: Oh my goodness.

[01:31:13] [SPEAKER_13]: Yeah, yeah.

[01:31:16] [SPEAKER_03]: Well, you're a fascinating, fascinating person.

[01:31:18] [SPEAKER_03]: And it was very nice to meet you

[01:31:20] [SPEAKER_03]: and very nice to meet Will.

[01:31:21] [SPEAKER_03]: And again, it's G's Louise Hoops with a J.

[01:31:26] [SPEAKER_03]: J, yes.

[01:31:27] [SPEAKER_03]: And we will add all the links to the show,

[01:31:31] [SPEAKER_03]: which will be out tomorrow,

[01:31:33] [SPEAKER_03]: tomorrow morning,

[01:31:34] [SPEAKER_03]: after a long night of editing.

[01:31:37] [SPEAKER_03]: So thank you very much for joining us.

[01:31:39] [SPEAKER_13]: Thank you. Thank you for having me.

[01:31:40] [SPEAKER_03]: You're welcome.

[01:31:44] [SPEAKER_03]: And we're back.

[01:31:47] [SPEAKER_05]: Did you learn everything you need to learn

[01:31:49] [SPEAKER_05]: about hula hooping and hiking?

[01:31:53] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I think I'm going to get back

[01:31:54] [SPEAKER_03]: into tip top shape doing some hula hooping.

[01:31:58] [SPEAKER_03]: Yes.

[01:31:58] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh yeah, I'm going to get those hips moving.

[01:32:00] [SPEAKER_03]: Build those core muscles.

[01:32:02] [SPEAKER_03]: Core muscles, hip muscles.

[01:32:04] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I think I might give up hiking

[01:32:06] [SPEAKER_03]: and just hula hoop for a couple hours every day.

[01:32:09] [SPEAKER_06]: Yes. Yes.

[01:32:10] [SPEAKER_05]: I think that sounds good.

[01:32:12] [SPEAKER_05]: And then to add jump roping

[01:32:13] [SPEAKER_05]: while hula hooping.

[01:32:17] [SPEAKER_03]: And the most impressive thing about G's Louise,

[01:32:20] [SPEAKER_03]: she walks and does it.

[01:32:22] [SPEAKER_03]: Yes.

[01:32:22] [SPEAKER_03]: I can't figure that out.

[01:32:23] [SPEAKER_03]: That's coordination right there.

[01:32:25] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[01:32:25] [SPEAKER_03]: That's a gift.

[01:32:26] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[01:32:27] [SPEAKER_02]: Very impressive.

[01:32:28] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it is.

[01:32:33] [SPEAKER_12]: Slashers hiking topic of the week.

[01:32:40] [SPEAKER_05]: All right, Stomp.

[01:32:41] [SPEAKER_05]: So I had taken,

[01:32:44] [SPEAKER_05]: you know, we've done,

[01:32:45] [SPEAKER_05]: I think in show 23

[01:32:48] [SPEAKER_05]: and then it might have been in show like 123.

[01:32:51] [SPEAKER_05]: We've done like fall foliage segments before

[01:32:54] [SPEAKER_05]: just prepping people.

[01:32:55] [SPEAKER_05]: And every year we kind of do one.

[01:32:57] [SPEAKER_05]: So I wanted to just do a recap

[01:32:59] [SPEAKER_05]: of planning for fall foliage.

[01:33:02] [SPEAKER_05]: If you're a listener

[01:33:03] [SPEAKER_05]: and you don't, you're too lazy,

[01:33:05] [SPEAKER_05]: like I'm lazy so I don't go back to stuff.

[01:33:06] [SPEAKER_05]: But if you're new a listener

[01:33:08] [SPEAKER_05]: and you haven't gone back,

[01:33:09] [SPEAKER_05]: we wanted to cover sort of our take on fall foliage

[01:33:12] [SPEAKER_05]: and planning for fall foliage.

[01:33:15] [SPEAKER_05]: So starting off Stomp,

[01:33:17] [SPEAKER_05]: I want to start with like the dates

[01:33:18] [SPEAKER_05]: to be thinking about fall foliage.

[01:33:20] [SPEAKER_05]: So I did spot there was two trees

[01:33:22] [SPEAKER_05]: I identified that had leaves changing.

[01:33:24] [SPEAKER_05]: There's a one red tree

[01:33:25] [SPEAKER_05]: and there's a one orange tree last weekend.

[01:33:27] [SPEAKER_05]: So leaves are changing already,

[01:33:29] [SPEAKER_05]: but really from a fall foliage perspective,

[01:33:32] [SPEAKER_05]: you want to think about the last week of September

[01:33:36] [SPEAKER_05]: through about the fourth week of October

[01:33:39] [SPEAKER_05]: and typically up in North country.

[01:33:42] [SPEAKER_05]: So Coos County, Dixville notch,

[01:33:44] [SPEAKER_05]: Pittsburgh, Grafton notch.

[01:33:47] [SPEAKER_05]: So you're thinking like the last week in September

[01:33:49] [SPEAKER_05]: to the first week of October.

[01:33:51] [SPEAKER_05]: I haven't looked at the calendar this year,

[01:33:53] [SPEAKER_05]: maybe it slid down a little bit one way or the other.

[01:33:55] [SPEAKER_05]: I don't know, but I think early season

[01:33:58] [SPEAKER_05]: you want to think like sort of in the North country

[01:34:01] [SPEAKER_05]: and then once you get in the first second week,

[01:34:04] [SPEAKER_05]: typically that's when the White Mountains

[01:34:06] [SPEAKER_05]: will start popping a little bit

[01:34:08] [SPEAKER_05]: and they usually hold off until about the third week.

[01:34:10] [SPEAKER_05]: Then third and fourth week

[01:34:13] [SPEAKER_05]: you're getting down into the Lakes region

[01:34:17] [SPEAKER_05]: and you start thinking about the Berkshires

[01:34:18] [SPEAKER_05]: and Southern New Hampshire as well.

[01:34:21] [SPEAKER_03]: Right, and just a side note,

[01:34:23] [SPEAKER_03]: from what I've seen so far,

[01:34:25] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm curious if the colors are going to be

[01:34:28] [SPEAKER_03]: as vibrant as years past

[01:34:29] [SPEAKER_03]: because I'm seeing some muted,

[01:34:32] [SPEAKER_03]: even like almost decaying type of leaf structure

[01:34:36] [SPEAKER_03]: from what I've seen down here.

[01:34:38] [SPEAKER_03]: So we shall see.

[01:34:39] [SPEAKER_03]: It's always the big question.

[01:34:42] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I don't know.

[01:34:43] [SPEAKER_05]: I didn't look to see

[01:34:48] [SPEAKER_05]: what the colors would look like here.

[01:34:51] [SPEAKER_05]: But yeah, you can go online to figure it out.

[01:34:54] [SPEAKER_05]: But just in general terms,

[01:34:55] [SPEAKER_05]: like last week of September

[01:34:57] [SPEAKER_05]: until about the first week of November,

[01:34:58] [SPEAKER_05]: you'll get some foliage between Northern New Hampshire

[01:35:01] [SPEAKER_05]: down into Massachusetts.

[01:35:04] [SPEAKER_05]: But I think second, third, fourth week of October

[01:35:09] [SPEAKER_05]: is where in the White Mountains

[01:35:11] [SPEAKER_05]: and the Lakes region

[01:35:13] [SPEAKER_05]: is where the foliage is going to be popping.

[01:35:15] [SPEAKER_05]: So I think stop the way,

[01:35:17] [SPEAKER_05]: we always talk about the ways to enjoy foliage.

[01:35:18] [SPEAKER_05]: You can do drives, you can do easy hikes,

[01:35:20] [SPEAKER_05]: you can do epic hikes.

[01:35:21] [SPEAKER_05]: So from a driving perspective,

[01:35:23] [SPEAKER_05]: I always advise listeners

[01:35:25] [SPEAKER_05]: to avoid the heavily traveled roads,

[01:35:28] [SPEAKER_05]: 93 North, Route 16.

[01:35:31] [SPEAKER_05]: Stay off the kink.

[01:35:33] [SPEAKER_05]: Stay away from Lincoln and North Conway.

[01:35:37] [SPEAKER_05]: Typically those are the areas

[01:35:38] [SPEAKER_05]: that get really filled up.

[01:35:40] [SPEAKER_05]: So I, in the early season,

[01:35:42] [SPEAKER_05]: I recommend checking out Grafton Notch.

[01:35:46] [SPEAKER_05]: So go up 95 North

[01:35:47] [SPEAKER_05]: and then you can cut over to Route 26

[01:35:50] [SPEAKER_05]: and go through Newry and Bethel

[01:35:52] [SPEAKER_05]: from the Boston area.

[01:35:55] [SPEAKER_05]: And there's a lot of easy pull-offs

[01:35:56] [SPEAKER_05]: in Grafton Notch.

[01:35:57] [SPEAKER_05]: You can go as far up as Dixville

[01:35:59] [SPEAKER_05]: and then come home via Route 5

[01:36:02] [SPEAKER_05]: into Freiburg and in that area there.

[01:36:05] [SPEAKER_05]: Then I guess maybe you can go south

[01:36:06] [SPEAKER_05]: down Route 16 if you want to get out of there.

[01:36:08] [SPEAKER_05]: But Newry, Bethel, Freiburg, Cornish Mean,

[01:36:12] [SPEAKER_05]: a bunch of good pull-offs in those areas

[01:36:14] [SPEAKER_05]: that you can check out for good drives.

[01:36:18] [SPEAKER_05]: And then I also recommend Grafton Turnpike

[01:36:20] [SPEAKER_05]: which is over by Hanover.

[01:36:22] [SPEAKER_05]: So you can take Route,

[01:36:23] [SPEAKER_05]: I think you can come up 93.

[01:36:26] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, so you do Route 10, drive to 25A,

[01:36:29] [SPEAKER_05]: connect to Route 3A

[01:36:30] [SPEAKER_05]: and you can go into like,

[01:36:32] [SPEAKER_05]: if you come south,

[01:36:33] [SPEAKER_05]: you can come into Franklin and then out 93.

[01:36:35] [SPEAKER_05]: But I think Grafton Turnpike to me,

[01:36:38] [SPEAKER_05]: during like foliage season,

[01:36:39] [SPEAKER_05]: is like unbelievable.

[01:36:41] [SPEAKER_04]: Mm-hmm.

[01:36:42] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I had similar thoughts.

[01:36:46] [SPEAKER_03]: You know, 25 is great for sure.

[01:36:48] [SPEAKER_03]: I would agree.

[01:36:50] [SPEAKER_03]: Try to avoid Lincoln.

[01:36:51] [SPEAKER_03]: It's just not worth the hassle.

[01:36:53] [SPEAKER_03]: You're at high season.

[01:36:56] [SPEAKER_05]: And then any of the drives for you,

[01:36:58] [SPEAKER_05]: Stomp, that you recommend?

[01:37:01] [SPEAKER_03]: You know, I love the drive towards Stark,

[01:37:06] [SPEAKER_03]: you know, towards Whitefield, Lancaster.

[01:37:08] [SPEAKER_03]: It's just, I prefer the open wide fields

[01:37:13] [SPEAKER_03]: and you get a lot of that

[01:37:14] [SPEAKER_03]: when you're driving north through the North Country.

[01:37:16] [SPEAKER_03]: I love it.

[01:37:17] [SPEAKER_03]: It's absolutely beautiful.

[01:37:18] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that's a good one.

[01:37:21] [SPEAKER_03]: And I'd made note here in the past

[01:37:23] [SPEAKER_03]: about taking some of those forest roads.

[01:37:25] [SPEAKER_03]: You may not get the expansive views

[01:37:26] [SPEAKER_03]: but you're surrounded in that immersive foliage

[01:37:30] [SPEAKER_03]: and it can be beautiful.

[01:37:32] [SPEAKER_03]: Sandwich Notch Road, Tripoli Road,

[01:37:35] [SPEAKER_03]: all great options.

[01:37:37] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, yeah.

[01:37:38] [SPEAKER_05]: And then we had here like 113 and Tamworth

[01:37:40] [SPEAKER_05]: which I think you can connect to

[01:37:42] [SPEAKER_05]: Sandwich Notch Road in that way.

[01:37:44] [SPEAKER_05]: That's another great drive

[01:37:46] [SPEAKER_05]: that you can head over to the Lakes region on too.

[01:37:49] [SPEAKER_05]: So, a lot of options.

[01:37:51] [SPEAKER_05]: It's just some of these are tricky

[01:37:52] [SPEAKER_05]: because you do need to go on 16 or 93

[01:37:54] [SPEAKER_05]: but I do recommend that like Father North Drive

[01:37:58] [SPEAKER_05]: on taking 95 north to 26

[01:38:02] [SPEAKER_05]: and get up to like Sunday River in that area

[01:38:05] [SPEAKER_05]: because it's really nice.

[01:38:08] [SPEAKER_05]: All right, Stomp.

[01:38:09] [SPEAKER_05]: And then we've got easy hikes

[01:38:10] [SPEAKER_05]: and what I recommend for people to think about

[01:38:13] [SPEAKER_05]: when they're doing the two things

[01:38:16] [SPEAKER_05]: that I recommend when it comes to fall foliage

[01:38:18] [SPEAKER_05]: is you can do hikes where you're immersed

[01:38:21] [SPEAKER_05]: into the environment

[01:38:23] [SPEAKER_05]: which means you're on a summit of a mountain

[01:38:25] [SPEAKER_05]: but it's a lower mountain

[01:38:27] [SPEAKER_05]: so you're kind of surrounded by other mountains

[01:38:30] [SPEAKER_05]: that are higher than you.

[01:38:32] [SPEAKER_05]: So in that way it creates this immersive effect

[01:38:34] [SPEAKER_05]: where you're like inside a bowl

[01:38:38] [SPEAKER_05]: of just awesome foliage

[01:38:40] [SPEAKER_05]: and I think for me

[01:38:41] [SPEAKER_05]: like the middle sugar loaf,

[01:38:45] [SPEAKER_05]: those sugar loaves that are off of Zealand Notch Road

[01:38:48] [SPEAKER_05]: to me those are like the prototypical

[01:38:51] [SPEAKER_05]: like you're immersed, right?

[01:38:52] [SPEAKER_05]: You know what I mean?

[01:38:53] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh yeah, a mile up and you're in it.

[01:38:55] [SPEAKER_05]: Exactly.

[01:38:56] [SPEAKER_05]: So great.

[01:38:57] [SPEAKER_05]: And then the other, I guess the second way

[01:39:00] [SPEAKER_05]: to think about foliage

[01:39:01] [SPEAKER_05]: that in my view is the best way to experience it

[01:39:04] [SPEAKER_05]: is the hikes where you're overlooking a notch

[01:39:09] [SPEAKER_05]: where you can sort of see

[01:39:11] [SPEAKER_05]: the curve of the notch going either

[01:39:14] [SPEAKER_05]: north or south or whatever direction

[01:39:16] [SPEAKER_05]: and for me like Cannon Cliffs

[01:39:18] [SPEAKER_05]: is the good example of that

[01:39:19] [SPEAKER_05]: is you can sort of see the contour of the notch

[01:39:21] [SPEAKER_05]: and the colors that change

[01:39:23] [SPEAKER_05]: and you can look in either direction.

[01:39:25] [SPEAKER_05]: The other one that I recommend is Glen Boulder.

[01:39:28] [SPEAKER_05]: So you get to Glen Boulder

[01:39:30] [SPEAKER_05]: and you can look up into Pinkham Notch

[01:39:32] [SPEAKER_05]: or south down into Pinkham Notch.

[01:39:33] [SPEAKER_03]: So Willard would fall into that.

[01:39:37] [SPEAKER_03]: Correct, yeah.

[01:39:38] [SPEAKER_05]: Willard and then Webster and Jackson

[01:39:40] [SPEAKER_05]: would be the other ones.

[01:39:42] [SPEAKER_05]: Absolutely. Yeah, that's good.

[01:39:44] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, so those are good

[01:39:45] [SPEAKER_05]: but a couple of the other immersive hikes

[01:39:47] [SPEAKER_05]: again these are the ones

[01:39:48] [SPEAKER_05]: that sort of drop you into the middle.

[01:39:53] [SPEAKER_05]: So Pine Mountain is a good one

[01:39:55] [SPEAKER_05]: so you're sort of like

[01:39:56] [SPEAKER_05]: the lower peak that's in front of Madison

[01:40:00] [SPEAKER_05]: but it's surrounded by Mount Madison there.

[01:40:04] [SPEAKER_05]: I thought Mount Pemigoasset was another one.

[01:40:07] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, yeah for sure.

[01:40:08] [SPEAKER_03]: It's a little bit more vigorous I guess

[01:40:11] [SPEAKER_03]: but not that bad.

[01:40:12] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, and then Morgan and Percival

[01:40:15] [SPEAKER_05]: was another one that's got

[01:40:17] [SPEAKER_05]: like a lakes region view

[01:40:18] [SPEAKER_05]: that I thought was good.

[01:40:19] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, of the squamms

[01:40:22] [SPEAKER_03]: and I made a note here

[01:40:23] [SPEAKER_03]: on the other side of that lake

[01:40:24] [SPEAKER_03]: you have Eagle Cliff

[01:40:26] [SPEAKER_03]: which is looking towards Morgan and Percival

[01:40:28] [SPEAKER_03]: so it's the same neighborhood

[01:40:30] [SPEAKER_03]: but same great view.

[01:40:31] [SPEAKER_05]: Okay, yeah and that's another Eagle Cliff

[01:40:33] [SPEAKER_05]: that's not the Eagle Cliff

[01:40:34] [SPEAKER_05]: that we were talking about

[01:40:35] [SPEAKER_05]: related to the Watcher.

[01:40:38] [SPEAKER_03]: Correct, yes and that short one

[01:40:39] [SPEAKER_03]: we talked about recently

[01:40:40] [SPEAKER_03]: it's like .5 up to the little cliff.

[01:40:43] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, another one that I had

[01:40:44] [SPEAKER_05]: that was sort of on the easier

[01:40:46] [SPEAKER_05]: sort of, it's not immersive

[01:40:48] [SPEAKER_05]: but the South Moat I think is a good one

[01:40:50] [SPEAKER_05]: because you can look down

[01:40:56] [SPEAKER_03]: and you can see the whole thing.

[01:40:58] [SPEAKER_03]: Love it, I gotta get over there.

[01:41:00] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, and then

[01:41:01] [SPEAKER_05]: moving on to some of the epic hikes

[01:41:03] [SPEAKER_05]: that I recommend

[01:41:05] [SPEAKER_05]: and I already talked about

[01:41:07] [SPEAKER_05]: like Glen Boulder to Isolation

[01:41:09] [SPEAKER_05]: I think is an epic fall hike.

[01:41:11] [SPEAKER_05]: I think Cannon and Cannon Cliffs

[01:41:13] [SPEAKER_05]: is another one

[01:41:14] [SPEAKER_05]: and then I had Mount Cube

[01:41:16] [SPEAKER_05]: I think that's a great foliage hike

[01:41:18] [SPEAKER_05]: and then I had Mount Stairs, Crawford

[01:41:20] [SPEAKER_05]: and Resolution as another great foliage hike.

[01:41:25] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, those are all awesome.

[01:41:27] [SPEAKER_03]: Glen Boulder, Cannon Cliffs

[01:41:29] [SPEAKER_03]: so Cannon Cliffs

[01:41:31] [SPEAKER_03]: when you say Cannon Cliffs

[01:41:32] [SPEAKER_03]: what are you saying?

[01:41:34] [SPEAKER_05]: I'm thinking of the lower section

[01:41:36] [SPEAKER_05]: so you sum it

[01:41:38] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, the outlook.

[01:41:38] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, exactly

[01:41:40] [SPEAKER_05]: so like just the cliff section

[01:41:42] [SPEAKER_05]: where you go down off trail a little bit

[01:41:45] [SPEAKER_05]: and you can look in either direction

[01:41:48] [SPEAKER_05]: in Franconia to see it

[01:41:49] [SPEAKER_05]: like I'm looking at a photo of me right now

[01:41:53] [SPEAKER_05]: just looking out at Franconia

[01:41:55] [SPEAKER_05]: and it's got awesome foliage views.

[01:41:58] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

[01:42:00] [SPEAKER_03]: Awesome.

[01:42:01] [SPEAKER_03]: I would suggest some of the Mahoussaks too

[01:42:03] [SPEAKER_03]: like Goose Eye is great

[01:42:06] [SPEAKER_03]: that's fairly easily accessible

[01:42:09] [SPEAKER_03]: Mount Success would be nice

[01:42:10] [SPEAKER_03]: and then I mean for the ultimate

[01:42:14] [SPEAKER_03]: I just go back to that West Bond Summit

[01:42:16] [SPEAKER_03]: that spur, that .5 spur off of the Pemmi

[01:42:19] [SPEAKER_03]: is so unbelievable.

[01:42:21] [SPEAKER_05]: That's another immersive, yeah

[01:42:22] [SPEAKER_05]: that's the best spot in the whites.

[01:42:25] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh yeah, yeah

[01:42:27] [SPEAKER_03]: it's just so tight

[01:42:28] [SPEAKER_03]: it's similar in nature

[01:42:29] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, but I do think that like

[01:42:31] [SPEAKER_05]: whatever the Middle Sugarloaf

[01:42:33] [SPEAKER_05]: I get those confused

[01:42:34] [SPEAKER_05]: there's Middle and what North Sugarloaf

[01:42:37] [SPEAKER_05]: I can't remember

[01:42:38] [SPEAKER_03]: Middle has that really nice open view

[01:42:41] [SPEAKER_03]: the North is

[01:42:44] [SPEAKER_03]: it's more of just a cliff view

[01:42:46] [SPEAKER_03]: facing east

[01:42:47] [SPEAKER_03]: Got it, so when you

[01:42:48] [SPEAKER_03]: Middle's got like, it's not 360

[01:42:50] [SPEAKER_03]: but it's close

[01:42:51] [SPEAKER_03]: Pretty close

[01:42:57] [SPEAKER_05]: and it's like a $3.00 for any fall foliage hike

[01:43:01] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, did you mention Mount Martha?

[01:43:03] [SPEAKER_05]: Oh I didn't actually, that's another one

[01:43:05] [SPEAKER_05]: Owl's Head, Martha is another one

[01:43:07] [SPEAKER_03]: Yep, yep

[01:43:09] [SPEAKER_03]: Going up Mount Martha

[01:43:11] [SPEAKER_03]: ascending Owl's Head

[01:43:13] [SPEAKER_03]: that's a challenge

[01:43:14] [SPEAKER_03]: that's a steep trail

[01:43:15] [SPEAKER_05]: It's a grind, yeah

[01:43:17] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it sure is

[01:43:19] [SPEAKER_05]: You know what actually, Snop

[01:43:20] [SPEAKER_05]: I didn't even put these on my recent hikes

[01:43:22] [SPEAKER_05]: but one of the things I've been doing

[01:43:27] [SPEAKER_05]: for my winter hike

[01:43:28] [SPEAKER_05]: is in North Conway

[01:43:30] [SPEAKER_05]: you can park behind the Walmart

[01:43:31] [SPEAKER_05]: where Redstone is

[01:43:32] [SPEAKER_05]: and then take the walking path for two miles

[01:43:35] [SPEAKER_05]: and then connect with the trail system

[01:43:38] [SPEAKER_05]: in the Green Hills

[01:43:39] [SPEAKER_05]: and you can get up to

[01:43:41] [SPEAKER_05]: Middle Mountain and Pequot Mountain

[01:43:43] [SPEAKER_05]: and those are on the opposite side of the moats

[01:43:46] [SPEAKER_05]: and you can hike up those

[01:43:47] [SPEAKER_05]: those will be fantastic fall foliage hikes too

[01:43:51] [SPEAKER_02]: Okay

[01:43:52] [SPEAKER_05]: I've been doing those

[01:43:52] [SPEAKER_05]: I just do my morning run

[01:43:57] [SPEAKER_05]: and then I'll fly up Pequot or Middle

[01:43:59] [SPEAKER_05]: and just get the views

[01:44:01] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, good call

[01:44:03] [SPEAKER_05]: Yep

[01:44:04] [SPEAKER_05]: And then any safety pointers you want to

[01:44:07] [SPEAKER_05]: remind the listeners about, Snop?

[01:44:10] [SPEAKER_03]: Temperature and light

[01:44:11] [SPEAKER_03]: temperature and light

[01:44:12] [SPEAKER_03]: that's really what it comes down to

[01:44:13] [SPEAKER_03]: make sure you're packing everything you need

[01:44:15] [SPEAKER_03]: because it does get cooler quick

[01:44:17] [SPEAKER_03]: once that sun goes down

[01:44:18] [SPEAKER_03]: and the sun does go down

[01:44:20] [SPEAKER_03]: don't forget that

[01:44:21] [SPEAKER_03]: we're coming up on the change of the time

[01:44:27] [SPEAKER_03]: make sure you have those headlamps

[01:44:29] [SPEAKER_03]: Mike likes to pack about a dozen headlamps

[01:44:31] [SPEAKER_02]: Two, just two

[01:44:32] [SPEAKER_03]: Just good

[01:44:34] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, make sure you have it

[01:44:35] [SPEAKER_03]: make sure you have a map

[01:44:37] [SPEAKER_03]: or some means of looking at

[01:44:40] [SPEAKER_03]: where the heck you're going

[01:44:41] [SPEAKER_03]: if you're not 100% familiar

[01:44:42] [SPEAKER_03]: you should know where you're going

[01:44:44] [SPEAKER_03]: in these circumstances

[01:44:45] [SPEAKER_03]: because if you do get stuck out there

[01:44:47] [SPEAKER_03]: in the colder weather

[01:44:48] [SPEAKER_03]: it does become a little bit more dangerous

[01:44:49] [SPEAKER_03]: and risky

[01:44:57] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm going to rest on my pack now

[01:44:58] [SPEAKER_03]: regardless of what I'm doing

[01:45:01] [SPEAKER_03]: Pack a bivy

[01:45:02] [SPEAKER_03]: little solo hand-held bivys are great

[01:45:05] [SPEAKER_03]: they keep like 80-90% of your body heat

[01:45:08] [SPEAKER_03]: if you're really in a pinch

[01:45:09] [SPEAKER_03]: waiting for somebody to come

[01:45:11] [SPEAKER_03]: pluck you out of the woods

[01:45:12] [SPEAKER_03]: hand warmers, fire starters, gloves, hats

[01:45:15] [SPEAKER_03]: all the basic stuff

[01:45:16] [SPEAKER_03]: I think it's time to start packing that stuff

[01:45:18] [SPEAKER_03]: especially with this early fall

[01:45:21] [SPEAKER_03]: sensation that we're experiencing here

[01:45:23] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I put my sit pad in my backpack

[01:45:26] [SPEAKER_05]: and I put my puff jacket in there

[01:45:28] [SPEAKER_05]: didn't need to use it at all

[01:45:30] [SPEAKER_05]: but it's just good to have it

[01:45:31] [SPEAKER_05]: so it's time

[01:45:33] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and I love this last point here

[01:45:37] [SPEAKER_03]: watch those leaves

[01:45:38] [SPEAKER_03]: the leaves are slippery

[01:45:39] [SPEAKER_03]: they do hide what's underneath them

[01:45:41] [SPEAKER_03]: which can be wet granite

[01:45:43] [SPEAKER_03]: so just plan your steps

[01:45:45] [SPEAKER_03]: be cautious

[01:45:46] [SPEAKER_03]: watch out for the roots

[01:45:49] [SPEAKER_03]: The roots

[01:45:50] [SPEAKER_03]: Yes

[01:46:13] [SPEAKER_10]: Alright Stomp

[01:46:30] [SPEAKER_05]: we're going to go into

[01:46:33] [SPEAKER_05]: recent search and rescue here

[01:46:34] [SPEAKER_05]: so have you ever gone hiking with coworkers?

[01:46:39] [SPEAKER_03]: coworkers

[01:46:40] [SPEAKER_03]: maybe here and there

[01:46:41] [SPEAKER_03]: not too often

[01:46:42] [SPEAKER_05]: Do you think like

[01:46:44] [SPEAKER_05]: I know better

[01:46:45] [SPEAKER_05]: any coworkers that you don't get to see often?

[01:46:46] [SPEAKER_05]: that you might leave on trail?

[01:46:51] [SPEAKER_02]: I can think of a few

[01:46:52] [SPEAKER_05]: You could?

[01:46:53] [SPEAKER_05]: I would never do that to my coworkers

[01:46:55] [SPEAKER_05]: I love them all

[01:46:57] [SPEAKER_05]: so anyway

[01:46:57] [SPEAKER_05]: this is a story out of Colorado

[01:46:59] [SPEAKER_05]: Stomp, I think you got this from a few people

[01:47:01] [SPEAKER_05]: I got this story emailed to me

[01:47:04] [SPEAKER_05]: by two or three different people

[01:47:05] [SPEAKER_05]: so I think Adel sent it over to me

[01:47:07] [SPEAKER_05]: so a man was left behind

[01:47:10] [SPEAKER_05]: on a Colorado mountain

[01:47:11] [SPEAKER_05]: well on a hiking retreat with coworkers

[01:47:14] [SPEAKER_05]: had to be rescued by emergency services

[01:47:18] [SPEAKER_05]: but he was with a group of 15 people

[01:47:20] [SPEAKER_05]: hiking Mount Shavano

[01:47:21] [SPEAKER_05]: which is a 14,000 foot mountain

[01:47:23] [SPEAKER_05]: in the southern Rockies

[01:47:25] [SPEAKER_05]: so all 15 coworkers were participating

[01:47:28] [SPEAKER_05]: in an office retreat

[01:47:29] [SPEAKER_05]: and they were taking the standard route

[01:47:31] [SPEAKER_05]: to the top of the mountain

[01:47:32] [SPEAKER_05]: so it's an 11 mile hike

[01:47:34] [SPEAKER_05]: what business is this

[01:47:36] [SPEAKER_05]: that's doing an 11 mile

[01:47:38] [SPEAKER_05]: 14,000 foot mountain for a hike?

[01:47:42] [SPEAKER_05]: Team building

[01:47:44] [SPEAKER_05]: I mean I would just be like

[01:47:45] [SPEAKER_05]: look give me a fun fact

[01:47:48] [SPEAKER_05]: let's call it a day

[01:47:50] [SPEAKER_05]: so anyway

[01:47:52] [SPEAKER_05]: so it was expected to take 9 hours

[01:47:55] [SPEAKER_05]: to complete on average

[01:47:56] [SPEAKER_05]: so the group started the trek on August 23rd

[01:47:59] [SPEAKER_05]: and in what might cause some awkward encounters

[01:48:02] [SPEAKER_05]: at the office

[01:48:03] [SPEAKER_05]: in the coming days and weeks

[01:48:04] [SPEAKER_05]: the man was left to complete

[01:48:05] [SPEAKER_05]: his final summit push alone

[01:48:08] [SPEAKER_05]: Chaffey County Search and Rescue

[01:48:10] [SPEAKER_05]: said on social media

[01:48:11] [SPEAKER_05]: so Chaffey County Search and Rescue

[01:48:13] [SPEAKER_05]: got a sense of humor

[01:48:16] [SPEAKER_05]: the man summited the mountain at 1130

[01:48:20] [SPEAKER_05]: and later than the rest of his coworkers

[01:48:21] [SPEAKER_05]: he then became disoriented

[01:48:23] [SPEAKER_05]: I wonder what the conversation was

[01:48:25] [SPEAKER_05]: with them coming down

[01:48:27] [SPEAKER_05]: and him coming up

[01:48:29] [SPEAKER_05]: I don't know, it doesn't say

[01:48:33] [SPEAKER_05]: so apparently

[01:48:34] [SPEAKER_05]: he came down later than his coworkers

[01:48:37] [SPEAKER_05]: he then became disoriented

[01:48:38] [SPEAKER_05]: while descending

[01:48:39] [SPEAKER_05]: belongings that he had left to mark his path

[01:48:42] [SPEAKER_05]: had been moved by another group of hikers

[01:48:44] [SPEAKER_05]: and he had made a wrong turn

[01:48:46] [SPEAKER_05]: so that happens

[01:48:47] [SPEAKER_05]: we have these people leaving stuff behind

[01:48:52] [SPEAKER_05]: we leave no trace

[01:48:53] [SPEAKER_05]: police here

[01:48:54] [SPEAKER_05]: and we pick things up

[01:48:55] [SPEAKER_05]: so maybe you want to

[01:48:56] [SPEAKER_05]: just check for freshness

[01:48:58] [SPEAKER_05]: if you're going to grab anybody else's stuff

[01:49:01] [SPEAKER_03]: right, absolutely

[01:49:02] [SPEAKER_05]: so apparently he made a wrong turn

[01:49:04] [SPEAKER_05]: in a steep boulder field

[01:49:05] [SPEAKER_05]: all the stuff that he was using

[01:49:07] [SPEAKER_05]: to rely on where he was going to come back to

[01:49:09] [SPEAKER_05]: was gone

[01:49:09] [SPEAKER_05]: and he ended up

[01:49:13] [SPEAKER_05]: texting his coworkers

[01:49:14] [SPEAKER_05]: his location

[01:49:22] [SPEAKER_05]: he was hiking

[01:49:22] [SPEAKER_05]: he sent another pin with an updated location

[01:49:25] [SPEAKER_05]: to his coworkers around 3.30

[01:49:27] [SPEAKER_05]: but right after that

[01:49:28] [SPEAKER_05]: a strong storm

[01:49:30] [SPEAKER_05]: with freezing rain and high winds

[01:49:31] [SPEAKER_05]: tore through the area

[01:49:33] [SPEAKER_05]: he got disoriented

[01:49:34] [SPEAKER_05]: he lost cell phone signal

[01:49:36] [SPEAKER_05]: and I guess they contacted search and rescue

[01:49:40] [SPEAKER_05]: at that point

[01:49:40] [SPEAKER_05]: and they got a couple of search teams

[01:49:43] [SPEAKER_05]: and a drone pilot

[01:49:44] [SPEAKER_05]: to dispatch from the same trailhead

[01:49:46] [SPEAKER_05]: and the team was focusing

[01:49:52] [SPEAKER_05]: on the weather

[01:49:52] [SPEAKER_05]: it was complicating things

[01:49:53] [SPEAKER_05]: but by 9am the next morning

[01:49:56] [SPEAKER_05]: after 12 hours of searching

[01:49:58] [SPEAKER_05]: they still had no sign of the guy

[01:50:02] [SPEAKER_05]: but he had regained enough cell service

[01:50:05] [SPEAKER_05]: to make a 911 call around that time

[01:50:07] [SPEAKER_05]: he was very disoriented

[01:50:09] [SPEAKER_05]: he fell about 20 times

[01:50:10] [SPEAKER_05]: couldn't get back up

[01:50:12] [SPEAKER_05]: but the call

[01:50:13] [SPEAKER_05]: they were able to confirm his location

[01:50:16] [SPEAKER_05]: and I guess they were able

[01:50:20] [SPEAKER_05]: to get him out

[01:50:21] [SPEAKER_05]: using the phone

[01:50:22] [SPEAKER_05]: and using ropes

[01:50:22] [SPEAKER_05]: to enter the gully

[01:50:23] [SPEAKER_05]: where the guy had fallen

[01:50:24] [SPEAKER_05]: and then they got him out

[01:50:26] [SPEAKER_05]: he was transported to a local hospital

[01:50:28] [SPEAKER_05]: and they had no information

[01:50:30] [SPEAKER_05]: on his condition

[01:50:31] [SPEAKER_05]: but rumor has it

[01:50:34] [SPEAKER_05]: that his performance review

[01:50:35] [SPEAKER_05]: was going to come back pretty bad

[01:50:37] [SPEAKER_05]: after this

[01:50:42] [SPEAKER_03]: oh my god

[01:50:43] [SPEAKER_03]: what a terrible story

[01:50:44] [SPEAKER_03]: how awkward

[01:50:45] [SPEAKER_03]: can't do that

[01:50:52] [SPEAKER_05]: next one is in Arizona

[01:50:53] [SPEAKER_05]: at the Grand Canyon

[01:50:54] [SPEAKER_05]: so this is that Havasupai Reservation

[01:50:57] [SPEAKER_05]: so this is that

[01:50:58] [SPEAKER_05]: really amazing waterfall

[01:51:00] [SPEAKER_05]: with the blue water

[01:51:02] [SPEAKER_05]: that everybody has to get reservations

[01:51:04] [SPEAKER_05]: to hike into

[01:51:06] [SPEAKER_05]: so an estimated 100 plus tribal members

[01:51:09] [SPEAKER_05]: and tourists near Havasupai Falls

[01:51:12] [SPEAKER_05]: were evacuated

[01:51:13] [SPEAKER_05]: after floodwaters on Thursday

[01:51:14] [SPEAKER_05]: left them stranded

[01:51:15] [SPEAKER_05]: I saw some video on this

[01:51:17] [SPEAKER_05]: people were crying

[01:51:22] [SPEAKER_05]: this was a pretty serious situation

[01:51:23] [SPEAKER_05]: so they had to

[01:51:25] [SPEAKER_05]: coordinate rescue efforts

[01:51:27] [SPEAKER_05]: on

[01:51:29] [SPEAKER_05]: I guess this was

[01:51:31] [SPEAKER_05]: the National Guard

[01:51:32] [SPEAKER_05]: was deployed

[01:51:33] [SPEAKER_05]: in response to this flooding

[01:51:35] [SPEAKER_05]: near the Grand Canyon

[01:51:36] [SPEAKER_05]: and it did sweep away one woman

[01:51:40] [SPEAKER_05]: from Gilbert, Arizona

[01:51:43] [SPEAKER_05]: who went missing

[01:51:45] [SPEAKER_05]: around 1.30 on Thursday

[01:51:46] [SPEAKER_05]: during the flash flood

[01:51:47] [SPEAKER_05]: about a half a mile

[01:51:52] [SPEAKER_05]: and she was taken by the water

[01:51:53] [SPEAKER_05]: unfortunately

[01:51:54] [SPEAKER_05]: and

[01:51:58] [SPEAKER_05]: apparently the

[01:51:59] [SPEAKER_05]: guard had to go in

[01:52:00] [SPEAKER_05]: this person unfortunately

[01:52:02] [SPEAKER_05]: did not survive

[01:52:04] [SPEAKER_05]: but the National Guard

[01:52:06] [SPEAKER_05]: was able to respond

[01:52:08] [SPEAKER_05]: and evacuate all the people

[01:52:09] [SPEAKER_05]: from the area

[01:52:10] [SPEAKER_05]: but definitely crazy out there

[01:52:13] [SPEAKER_05]: in the west

[01:52:14] [SPEAKER_05]: they get those flash floods

[01:52:22] [SPEAKER_03]: I've seen some crazy videos

[01:52:23] [SPEAKER_03]: on YouTube recently

[01:52:26] [SPEAKER_03]: cars getting swept away

[01:52:27] [SPEAKER_03]: and families up on these little sand banks

[01:52:29] [SPEAKER_03]: and gee whiz

[01:52:30] [SPEAKER_05]: geez Louise

[01:52:32] [SPEAKER_05]: and I guess the area is indefinitely closed for now

[01:52:35] [SPEAKER_05]: so they are

[01:52:38] [SPEAKER_05]: assessing the situation

[01:52:39] [SPEAKER_05]: but that's a shame

[01:52:40] [SPEAKER_05]: because it's a very popular area

[01:52:43] [SPEAKER_03]: well, a dangerous area

[01:52:46] [SPEAKER_03]: that's 100 people

[01:52:47] [SPEAKER_03]: needs to be reassessed

[01:52:49] [SPEAKER_05]: yeah for sure

[01:52:53] [SPEAKER_05]: a couple news here

[01:52:54] [SPEAKER_05]: we skipped last week

[01:52:56] [SPEAKER_05]: we had a long show

[01:52:57] [SPEAKER_05]: so we skipped it

[01:52:57] [SPEAKER_05]: but there was a deceased hiker

[01:52:59] [SPEAKER_05]: found on the Gulfside Trail

[01:53:01] [SPEAKER_05]: I think close to

[01:53:03] [SPEAKER_05]: the summit of Mount Washington

[01:53:07] [SPEAKER_05]: this was on Thursday, August 22

[01:53:09] [SPEAKER_05]: a hiker was found

[01:53:12] [SPEAKER_05]: on the junction of the

[01:53:13] [SPEAKER_05]: Gulfside Trail

[01:53:14] [SPEAKER_05]: near Westside Trail

[01:53:16] [SPEAKER_05]: so this is essentially

[01:53:18] [SPEAKER_05]: very close to where

[01:53:23] [SPEAKER_05]: the hiker was

[01:53:23] [SPEAKER_05]: about a mile from the summit

[01:53:24] [SPEAKER_05]: and about 400 feet from the tracks

[01:53:26] [SPEAKER_05]: so Fishing Game

[01:53:28] [SPEAKER_05]: requested and received assistance

[01:53:29] [SPEAKER_05]: from the Cog Railway

[01:53:31] [SPEAKER_05]: who offered one of their trains

[01:53:32] [SPEAKER_05]: along with personnel

[01:53:33] [SPEAKER_05]: to assist with the recovery

[01:53:36] [SPEAKER_05]: the recovery team was taken up

[01:53:38] [SPEAKER_05]: in a train

[01:53:39] [SPEAKER_05]: and hiked to the scene

[01:53:40] [SPEAKER_05]: with a litter

[01:53:41] [SPEAKER_05]: the body was placed in the litter

[01:53:43] [SPEAKER_05]: and carried back to the train

[01:53:53] [SPEAKER_05]: Virginia according to his

[01:53:54] [SPEAKER_05]: driver's license

[01:53:55] [SPEAKER_05]: it appears that the hiker

[01:53:57] [SPEAKER_05]: had succumbed to exposure

[01:53:59] [SPEAKER_05]: so I think that week

[01:54:02] [SPEAKER_05]: or that night

[01:54:03] [SPEAKER_05]: the weather was probably

[01:54:04] [SPEAKER_05]: getting a little cold

[01:54:06] [SPEAKER_05]: not a lot of information

[01:54:07] [SPEAKER_05]: given about the hiker

[01:54:09] [SPEAKER_05]: he was dressed in jeans

[01:54:10] [SPEAKER_05]: had on a navy blue raincoat

[01:54:12] [SPEAKER_05]: and was wearing brown

[01:54:13] [SPEAKER_05]: hiking boots and a small

[01:54:14] [SPEAKER_05]: blue backpack

[01:54:23] [SPEAKER_05]: and was at the summit

[01:54:23] [SPEAKER_05]: on Wednesday the 21st

[01:54:25] [SPEAKER_05]: and then attempted to hike

[01:54:26] [SPEAKER_05]: back down

[01:54:31] [SPEAKER_05]: so second fatality

[01:54:33] [SPEAKER_05]: that I can think of

[01:54:34] [SPEAKER_05]: this summer anyway

[01:54:35] [SPEAKER_05]: because we had another

[01:54:36] [SPEAKER_05]: fatality in Kinsman

[01:54:37] [SPEAKER_05]: so terrible story

[01:54:39] [SPEAKER_05]: but keep an eye on it

[01:54:41] [SPEAKER_05]: if any more details

[01:54:42] [SPEAKER_05]: come out we'll share it

[01:54:44] [SPEAKER_03]: yeah well there's that dry

[01:54:46] [SPEAKER_03]: river too

[01:54:55] [SPEAKER_05]: so on the 19th

[01:54:56] [SPEAKER_05]: this was on the Winslow

[01:54:58] [SPEAKER_05]: Trail in Mount Kearsar

[01:55:00] [SPEAKER_05]: so this is the Mount Kearsar

[01:55:01] [SPEAKER_05]: that's down in Wilmot

[01:55:02] [SPEAKER_05]: so this is the southern

[01:55:05] [SPEAKER_05]: Mount Kearsar that's on

[01:55:06] [SPEAKER_05]: the 52 with a view list

[01:55:07] [SPEAKER_05]: so at 3pm on the 19th

[01:55:12] [SPEAKER_05]: officers were made aware

[01:55:14] [SPEAKER_05]: of an injured hiker

[01:55:15] [SPEAKER_05]: on the Winslow Trail

[01:55:16] [SPEAKER_05]: just below the summit

[01:55:18] [SPEAKER_05]: members of Wilmont Fire

[01:55:19] [SPEAKER_05]: Department responded up

[01:55:36] [SPEAKER_05]: to the hiker

[01:55:38] [SPEAKER_05]: and they were able

[01:55:40] [SPEAKER_05]: to stabilize the injury

[01:55:42] [SPEAKER_05]: looks like a lower leg

[01:55:44] [SPEAKER_05]: injury and it was

[01:55:46] [SPEAKER_05]: determined that the easiest

[01:55:47] [SPEAKER_05]: way to get out would be

[01:55:48] [SPEAKER_05]: to carry the injured hiker

[01:55:49] [SPEAKER_05]: back to the summit

[01:55:50] [SPEAKER_05]: and then down the

[01:55:52] [SPEAKER_05]: Rollins State Park

[01:55:53] [SPEAKER_05]: access road so that's

[01:55:54] [SPEAKER_05]: right they have an access

[01:55:55] [SPEAKER_05]: road that goes to the

[01:55:56] [SPEAKER_05]: summit so they were

[01:55:57] [SPEAKER_05]: able to carry out

[01:55:58] [SPEAKER_05]: commence at 430 and they

[01:55:59] [SPEAKER_05]: got him up there by 530

[01:56:01] [SPEAKER_05]: and then they were able

[01:56:02] [SPEAKER_05]: to take him down the

[01:56:03] [SPEAKER_05]: road and get him out to

[01:56:04] [SPEAKER_05]: Dartmouth Hitchcock Medical

[01:56:06] [SPEAKER_05]: Center so hiker was a 30

[01:56:08] [SPEAKER_05]: year old from Lowell

[01:56:09] [SPEAKER_05]: Massachusetts. Okay slip

[01:56:14] [SPEAKER_05]: and fall. Yeah looks like

[01:56:15] [SPEAKER_05]: it looks like it's all

[01:56:16] [SPEAKER_05]: all good though yeah that's

[01:56:19] [SPEAKER_05]: not a bad place to get

[01:56:21] [SPEAKER_05]: a rescue they got a road

[01:56:22] [SPEAKER_05]: to the top. That's a

[01:56:24] [SPEAKER_06]: cool have you been on

[01:56:25] [SPEAKER_06]: that mountain? No I

[01:56:27] [SPEAKER_03]: haven't I've been on the

[01:56:29] [SPEAKER_03]: Kearsarge right next door

[01:56:30] [SPEAKER_05]: yeah well Kearsarge North

[01:56:32] [SPEAKER_05]: is in that's what that's

[01:56:34] [SPEAKER_05]: what this summit was is

[01:56:36] [SPEAKER_05]: Mount Kearsarge in

[01:56:37] [SPEAKER_05]: Wilmot. Correct I've been

[01:56:39] [SPEAKER_03]: on that one. Oh that's where

[01:56:40] [SPEAKER_03]: this one's. I've been on both.

[01:56:41] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah Kearsarge North is in

[01:56:43] [SPEAKER_05]: North Conway regular

[01:56:45] [SPEAKER_05]: Kearsarge you've been on

[01:56:46] [SPEAKER_05]: the one with the little

[01:56:47] [SPEAKER_05]: like it's got a fire

[01:56:50] [SPEAKER_05]: tower but a different fire

[01:56:51] [SPEAKER_05]: tower not the one that me

[01:56:52] [SPEAKER_05]: and you went to.

[01:56:55] [SPEAKER_03]: Right yes I've been to both

[01:56:56] [SPEAKER_03]: okay that's yeah Mrs.

[01:56:58] [SPEAKER_03]: Stump and I did this one

[01:56:59] [SPEAKER_03]: okay that we're talking

[01:57:00] [SPEAKER_03]: about that's what I was

[01:57:01] [SPEAKER_03]: asking it's a quick quick

[01:57:02] [SPEAKER_03]: little hike yes

[01:57:06] [SPEAKER_03]: check your headphones

[01:57:08] [SPEAKER_06]: no I know there's too

[01:57:10] [SPEAKER_06]: many Kearsarges right now

[01:57:14] [SPEAKER_06]: okay so here's one that

[01:57:16] [SPEAKER_06]: you haven't been on so

[01:57:17] [SPEAKER_05]: injured hiker on Salt

[01:57:18] [SPEAKER_05]: Mote Trail so

[01:57:20] [SPEAKER_05]: this one happened on

[01:57:21] [SPEAKER_05]: August 19th this was

[01:57:23] [SPEAKER_05]: a call 53

[01:57:26] [SPEAKER_05]: year old from Conway

[01:57:28] [SPEAKER_05]: New Hampshire was hiking

[01:57:29] [SPEAKER_05]: the South Mote

[01:57:31] [SPEAKER_05]: Trail when she slipped

[01:57:32] [SPEAKER_05]: and fell and injured her

[01:57:33] [SPEAKER_05]: ankle and was unable to

[01:57:35] [SPEAKER_05]: bear weight and walk so

[01:57:36] [SPEAKER_05]: one thirty the call came

[01:57:38] [SPEAKER_05]: in Lakes Region Search

[01:57:40] [SPEAKER_05]: and Rescue is activated

[01:57:42] [SPEAKER_05]: along with conservation

[01:57:43] [SPEAKER_05]: officers and they arrived

[01:57:46] [SPEAKER_05]: to the hikers location at

[01:57:48] [SPEAKER_05]: three o'clock so what 90

[01:57:49] [SPEAKER_05]: minutes to get there

[01:57:50] [SPEAKER_05]: she was then carried to

[01:57:52] [SPEAKER_05]: the trailhead parking area

[01:57:53] [SPEAKER_05]: arriving at 635

[01:57:56] [SPEAKER_05]: and then transported to

[01:57:58] [SPEAKER_05]: Memorial Hospital in North

[01:58:00] [SPEAKER_05]: Conway for evaluation so

[01:58:01] [SPEAKER_05]: fishing game gave the

[01:58:03] [SPEAKER_05]: hiker a shout out saying

[01:58:04] [SPEAKER_05]: she was well prepared for

[01:58:05] [SPEAKER_05]: the hike and had all the

[01:58:06] [SPEAKER_05]: essentials and had also

[01:58:08] [SPEAKER_05]: recently purchased a

[01:58:09] [SPEAKER_05]: hike safe card

[01:58:13] [SPEAKER_05]: okay you should get a

[01:58:14] [SPEAKER_05]: drop stomp for when we

[01:58:16] [SPEAKER_05]: say that the hiker was

[01:58:17] [SPEAKER_05]: like well prepared and

[01:58:20] [SPEAKER_05]: they have their hike safe

[01:58:21] [SPEAKER_05]: you should do that you

[01:58:22] [SPEAKER_05]: know that crowd sharing

[01:58:23] [SPEAKER_05]: noise that you have oh

[01:58:25] [SPEAKER_03]: yeah you should put that

[01:58:26] [SPEAKER_05]: in here so

[01:58:27] [SPEAKER_03]: I'll see if I can develop

[01:58:29] [SPEAKER_05]: something mark this spot

[01:58:32] [SPEAKER_03]: absolutely so you know

[01:58:33] [SPEAKER_03]: what I like about this

[01:58:34] [SPEAKER_03]: story it's a great

[01:58:36] [SPEAKER_03]: example of the time it

[01:58:37] [SPEAKER_03]: takes to get to a person

[01:58:39] [SPEAKER_03]: versus the time it takes

[01:58:40] [SPEAKER_03]: to get out so yeah it

[01:58:41] [SPEAKER_05]: was 90 minutes to get to

[01:58:43] [SPEAKER_05]: her and then three hours

[01:58:44] [SPEAKER_05]: to get around yeah

[01:58:47] [SPEAKER_03]: exactly so it's basically

[01:58:48] [SPEAKER_05]: doubled what is the

[01:58:49] [SPEAKER_05]: like one thing I'm

[01:58:51] [SPEAKER_05]: curious about something

[01:58:52] [SPEAKER_05]: is like when you when

[01:58:54] [SPEAKER_05]: you get to a person

[01:58:55] [SPEAKER_05]: what is the typical like

[01:58:58] [SPEAKER_05]: amount of time that you

[01:58:59] [SPEAKER_05]: spend fussing around

[01:59:01] [SPEAKER_05]: figuring out like all

[01:59:02] [SPEAKER_05]: right we got to get you

[01:59:03] [SPEAKER_05]: in the litter and we got

[01:59:04] [SPEAKER_05]: to assess your injury and

[01:59:05] [SPEAKER_05]: is that typically like a

[01:59:07] [SPEAKER_05]: half hour is that like

[01:59:08] [SPEAKER_05]: five minutes is it

[01:59:10] [SPEAKER_05]: how long does that usually

[01:59:12] [SPEAKER_03]: take I think on average

[01:59:14] [SPEAKER_03]: just based upon my own

[01:59:16] [SPEAKER_03]: experience probably half an

[01:59:17] [SPEAKER_03]: hour just on average but

[01:59:20] [SPEAKER_03]: there's so many variations

[01:59:23] [SPEAKER_03]: and it depends when you're

[01:59:24] [SPEAKER_03]: starting to count I mean

[01:59:25] [SPEAKER_03]: you have to wait till the

[01:59:26] [SPEAKER_03]: litter shows up and then

[01:59:27] [SPEAKER_03]: you have to stabilize the

[01:59:30] [SPEAKER_03]: patient depends how severe

[01:59:31] [SPEAKER_03]: the injury is but on

[01:59:32] [SPEAKER_03]: average yeah maybe half an

[01:59:34] [SPEAKER_03]: hour half hour okay that's

[01:59:35] [SPEAKER_05]: reasonable yeah all right

[01:59:37] [SPEAKER_05]: all right so here we got

[01:59:39] [SPEAKER_05]: another another injury on

[01:59:42] [SPEAKER_05]: Mount Manad knock so

[01:59:44] [SPEAKER_05]: this is on August 19th to

[01:59:46] [SPEAKER_05]: 30 fishing game was

[01:59:49] [SPEAKER_05]: notified of a injured

[01:59:52] [SPEAKER_05]: hiker near the summit of

[01:59:53] [SPEAKER_05]: Mount Manad knock staff

[01:59:55] [SPEAKER_05]: Park staff was able to

[01:59:56] [SPEAKER_05]: locate the hiker and

[01:59:57] [SPEAKER_05]: his companion and

[01:59:58] [SPEAKER_05]: assistant under the tree

[01:59:59] [SPEAKER_05]: line to get some

[02:00:00] [SPEAKER_05]: protection from the

[02:00:01] [SPEAKER_05]: weather 34 year old from

[02:00:03] [SPEAKER_05]: Sharon mass he had

[02:00:05] [SPEAKER_05]: suffered non-life

[02:00:06] [SPEAKER_05]: threatening injuries to his

[02:00:07] [SPEAKER_05]: leg while descending

[02:00:08] [SPEAKER_05]: slippery rocks he was

[02:00:10] [SPEAKER_05]: able to hike off the

[02:00:11] [SPEAKER_05]: mountain with assistance

[02:00:12] [SPEAKER_05]: from rescuers and

[02:00:14] [SPEAKER_05]: apparently was transported

[02:00:16] [SPEAKER_05]: to the hospital by his

[02:00:17] [SPEAKER_05]: hiking companions all's

[02:00:19] [SPEAKER_05]: well that ends well in

[02:00:19] [SPEAKER_03]: Manad knock I was gonna

[02:00:22] [SPEAKER_03]: say earlier Manad knock

[02:00:24] [SPEAKER_03]: is a decent option for

[02:00:26] [SPEAKER_03]: foliage as well for late

[02:00:27] [SPEAKER_03]: foliage yes and and I

[02:00:30] [SPEAKER_03]: want to give a shout out

[02:00:31] [SPEAKER_03]: to my watch used to

[02:00:31] [SPEAKER_03]: because that's a short

[02:00:33] [SPEAKER_03]: and easy one and you get

[02:00:35] [SPEAKER_03]: that you're surrounded by

[02:00:36] [SPEAKER_03]: the plains of western

[02:00:38] [SPEAKER_03]: Massachusetts central

[02:00:40] [SPEAKER_03]: Western Mass it's just

[02:00:41] [SPEAKER_05]: beautiful yeah yeah and

[02:00:42] [SPEAKER_05]: it's by Greylock's another

[02:00:43] [SPEAKER_05]: one too later in the later

[02:00:45] [SPEAKER_05]: in the season too I had a

[02:00:46] [SPEAKER_05]: great time I'm gonna get

[02:00:47] [SPEAKER_05]: back out there I got time

[02:00:48] [SPEAKER_05]: it so that Jack's hot dog

[02:00:50] [SPEAKER_05]: stand is open though

[02:00:52] [SPEAKER_05]: where is that that's in

[02:00:53] [SPEAKER_05]: North North Adams yeah

[02:00:54] [SPEAKER_03]: okay that's such a great

[02:00:56] [SPEAKER_03]: area I love the I love

[02:00:57] [SPEAKER_03]: that whole entire area

[02:00:59] [SPEAKER_03]: Western Mass is great yeah

[02:01:00] [SPEAKER_05]: it is hey stop speaking

[02:01:01] [SPEAKER_05]: of Manad knock my daughter

[02:01:02] [SPEAKER_05]: was telling me this story

[02:01:03] [SPEAKER_05]: she's supposed to go hiking

[02:01:03] [SPEAKER_05]: with her and a boyfriend

[02:01:04] [SPEAKER_05]: have a group of friends

[02:01:05] [SPEAKER_05]: they were gonna go hiking

[02:01:06] [SPEAKER_05]: on Manad knock for

[02:01:08] [SPEAKER_05]: whatever reason they

[02:01:08] [SPEAKER_05]: decided not to go and

[02:01:10] [SPEAKER_05]: apparently they one of

[02:01:12] [SPEAKER_05]: the friends needed a

[02:01:13] [SPEAKER_05]: rescue so I almost he

[02:01:17] [SPEAKER_05]: went solo they went I

[02:01:18] [SPEAKER_05]: guess they went with a

[02:01:19] [SPEAKER_05]: group but one of the one

[02:01:20] [SPEAKER_05]: of the one of the

[02:01:21] [SPEAKER_05]: friends acquaintances of

[02:01:23] [SPEAKER_05]: the friends needed a

[02:01:25] [SPEAKER_05]: rescue or some even

[02:01:26] [SPEAKER_05]: an issue popped up where

[02:01:28] [SPEAKER_05]: they they they had like

[02:01:30] [SPEAKER_05]: fatigue and they needed

[02:01:32] [SPEAKER_05]: someone to help them get

[02:01:32] [SPEAKER_05]: down or something like

[02:01:33] [SPEAKER_05]: that so I told my daughter

[02:01:35] [SPEAKER_05]: I was like good thing you

[02:01:36] [SPEAKER_05]: didn't end up on the news

[02:01:37] [SPEAKER_03]: report yeah where's your

[02:01:40] [SPEAKER_03]: daughter living are they

[02:01:41] [SPEAKER_03]: she living out there no

[02:01:42] [SPEAKER_05]: no she lives well she

[02:01:43] [SPEAKER_05]: lives here now so she's

[02:01:45] [SPEAKER_05]: okay my oldest one does

[02:01:46] [SPEAKER_03]: but figure out who's

[02:01:48] [SPEAKER_03]: where yeah yeah is uh

[02:01:49] [SPEAKER_03]: one of my oldest

[02:01:50] [SPEAKER_03]: daughter's actually out in

[02:01:51] [SPEAKER_03]: Keene now so nice right

[02:01:53] [SPEAKER_03]: nearby we're trying to

[02:01:54] [SPEAKER_03]: get her out to Manad

[02:01:55] [SPEAKER_03]: now gonna visit her

[02:01:56] [SPEAKER_03]: this Sunday and check out

[02:01:58] [SPEAKER_05]: the new pad nice nice yeah

[02:02:00] [SPEAKER_05]: so I think my daughter

[02:02:02] [SPEAKER_05]: has plans to get to

[02:02:03] [SPEAKER_05]: New Hampshire at some

[02:02:03] [SPEAKER_05]: point but for now she's

[02:02:05] [SPEAKER_05]: just living at home and

[02:02:06] [SPEAKER_05]: working so it's nice to

[02:02:08] [SPEAKER_05]: have so we're not fully

[02:02:09] [SPEAKER_05]: empty nested yeah almost

[02:02:12] [SPEAKER_05]: that's what so it's like

[02:02:13] [SPEAKER_05]: me and my wife my oldest

[02:02:14] [SPEAKER_05]: daughter can chill and

[02:02:15] [SPEAKER_05]: watch below deck every

[02:02:16] [SPEAKER_05]: night so anyway so here's

[02:02:21] [SPEAKER_05]: another one from Wednesday

[02:02:22] [SPEAKER_05]: August 21st this is a

[02:02:25] [SPEAKER_05]: hiker rescued in Pinkham

[02:02:26] [SPEAKER_05]: notch so I'm gonna go

[02:02:28] [SPEAKER_05]: back to the video so

[02:02:29] [SPEAKER_05]: this was a wet and cold

[02:02:31] [SPEAKER_05]: hiker was stuck off trail

[02:02:32] [SPEAKER_05]: next to the Ellis River so

[02:02:34] [SPEAKER_05]: on August 20th officer

[02:02:36] [SPEAKER_05]: received a call from 9-1-1

[02:02:39] [SPEAKER_05]: indicating a young woman

[02:02:40] [SPEAKER_05]: was wet stuck and cold and

[02:02:43] [SPEAKER_05]: they were down on a steep

[02:02:44] [SPEAKER_05]: embankment near the Ellis

[02:02:46] [SPEAKER_05]: River adjacent to the

[02:02:48] [SPEAKER_05]: Tuckerman Ravine Trail Wow

[02:02:51] [SPEAKER_05]: I don't know where that

[02:02:52] [SPEAKER_05]: would be yeah I guess so

[02:02:54] [SPEAKER_05]: attempted callbacks to the

[02:02:55] [SPEAKER_05]: hiker were unsuccessful and

[02:02:57] [SPEAKER_05]: authorities quickly

[02:02:58] [SPEAKER_05]: mobilized to avoid the

[02:03:00] [SPEAKER_05]: dangers of a hypothermic

[02:03:01] [SPEAKER_05]: situation so temperatures

[02:03:03] [SPEAKER_05]: in the notch were around

[02:03:04] [SPEAKER_05]: 50 at the time of the call

[02:03:06] [SPEAKER_05]: with temperatures expected

[02:03:08] [SPEAKER_05]: to lower prior to dawn so

[02:03:10] [SPEAKER_05]: rescuers arrived at the

[02:03:11] [SPEAKER_05]: Tuckerman Ravine Trailhead

[02:03:13] [SPEAKER_05]: after midnight and began

[02:03:15] [SPEAKER_05]: hiking towards the location

[02:03:17] [SPEAKER_05]: given for the caller which

[02:03:18] [SPEAKER_05]: was about a half a mile

[02:03:19] [SPEAKER_05]: from Pinkham Notch Visitor

[02:03:21] [SPEAKER_05]: Center so I'm assuming they

[02:03:23] [SPEAKER_05]: went up the lower part of

[02:03:24] [SPEAKER_05]: Tuckerman Ravine so 120

[02:03:26] [SPEAKER_05]: AM on Wednesday they

[02:03:28] [SPEAKER_05]: located the hiker on the

[02:03:29] [SPEAKER_05]: opposite side of the Ellis

[02:03:31] [SPEAKER_05]: River from the Tuckerman

[02:03:32] [SPEAKER_05]: Ravine Trail 37 year old

[02:03:35] [SPEAKER_05]: hiker from Quebec was found

[02:03:37] [SPEAKER_05]: to be very cold and wet

[02:03:38] [SPEAKER_05]: she was given warm clothing

[02:03:40] [SPEAKER_05]: and assisted back across the

[02:03:41] [SPEAKER_05]: river to the trail she was

[02:03:45] [SPEAKER_05]: fatigued but able to hike

[02:03:46] [SPEAKER_05]: down the trail and arrived

[02:03:48] [SPEAKER_05]: safely at 221 hikers learned

[02:03:50] [SPEAKER_05]: that the catalyst for this

[02:03:51] [SPEAKER_05]: incident was a lack of a

[02:03:52] [SPEAKER_05]: head loss so she had no

[02:03:53] [SPEAKER_05]: light so once the daylight

[02:03:55] [SPEAKER_05]: ran out she decided to fall

[02:03:56] [SPEAKER_05]: the river down Mount

[02:03:57] [SPEAKER_05]: Washington that's not a good

[02:03:59] [SPEAKER_05]: call Wow well I mean what

[02:04:04] [SPEAKER_05]: else could you have done

[02:04:05] [SPEAKER_05]: without yeah I mean I don't

[02:04:07] [SPEAKER_05]: know I mean she just said I

[02:04:08] [SPEAKER_05]: mean sit tight but she got

[02:04:09] [SPEAKER_05]: soaking wet she lost a shoe

[02:04:11] [SPEAKER_05]: feared for her life which

[02:04:12] [SPEAKER_05]: was the right thing to do

[02:04:13] [SPEAKER_05]: for her to call and she's

[02:04:16] [SPEAKER_05]: very lucky that she was

[02:04:17] [SPEAKER_05]: close enough where they

[02:04:19] [SPEAKER_05]: could they could find her

[02:04:21] [SPEAKER_05]: absolutely yeah that's a

[02:04:22] [SPEAKER_03]: terrible situation that's a

[02:04:24] [SPEAKER_03]: really close call right

[02:04:27] [SPEAKER_03]: right it just harkens back

[02:04:29] [SPEAKER_03]: to what we talked about

[02:04:30] [SPEAKER_03]: earlier just having all that

[02:04:31] [SPEAKER_03]: stuff in your pack your light

[02:04:33] [SPEAKER_03]: yes clothing your shelter

[02:04:34] [SPEAKER_03]: your pad all of it yep

[02:04:37] [SPEAKER_05]: exactly alright so this next

[02:04:39] [SPEAKER_05]: one Saturday August 24th

[02:04:41] [SPEAKER_05]: stomp New Hampshire Fishing

[02:04:43] [SPEAKER_05]: Game notified of a hiker that

[02:04:44] [SPEAKER_05]: was disoriented on Mount

[02:04:45] [SPEAKER_05]: Washington.

[02:04:46] [SPEAKER_05]: The hiker was a 28 year old

[02:04:48] [SPEAKER_05]: hiker from Flatwood Kentucky

[02:04:50] [SPEAKER_05]: that sounds like a cool

[02:04:52] [SPEAKER_05]: place to live Flatwood

[02:04:53] [SPEAKER_05]: Kentucky feels like it's

[02:04:54] [SPEAKER_05]: like a Duke's hazard town I

[02:04:56] [SPEAKER_05]: call that you know what I

[02:04:58] [SPEAKER_05]: mean it's got like the boss

[02:04:59] [SPEAKER_05]: hog and where you from

[02:05:03] [SPEAKER_05]: stump I asked me where I'm

[02:05:04] [SPEAKER_02]: from I like that where you

[02:05:05] [SPEAKER_02]: from my flatwoods Kentucky

[02:05:10] [SPEAKER_03]: well darn it

[02:05:11] [SPEAKER_06]: yep

[02:05:14] [SPEAKER_06]: so anyway so she's 28

[02:05:16] [SPEAKER_05]: year old she needed

[02:05:17] [SPEAKER_05]: assurance that she was on

[02:05:19] [SPEAKER_05]: the correct trail we see

[02:05:21] [SPEAKER_05]: this a lot of Chikoras

[02:05:22] [SPEAKER_05]: it's a little bit of a maze

[02:05:23] [SPEAKER_05]: over there so over the course

[02:05:24] [SPEAKER_05]: of an hour her progress was

[02:05:25] [SPEAKER_05]: monitored she was following

[02:05:27] [SPEAKER_05]: the Brook Trail down the

[02:05:28] [SPEAKER_05]: mountain but it was still

[02:05:30] [SPEAKER_05]: over 2.5 so the Brook Trail

[02:05:31] [SPEAKER_05]: is not as well traveled

[02:05:33] [SPEAKER_05]: that sort of off the back

[02:05:34] [SPEAKER_05]: side of the mountain sort of

[02:05:35] [SPEAKER_05]: on the northwest side of

[02:05:39] [SPEAKER_05]: the mountain it's pretty

[02:05:39] [SPEAKER_05]: steep so she's

[02:05:43] [SPEAKER_05]: disoriented at 7 p.m.

[02:05:45] [SPEAKER_05]: she was directed to stay on

[02:05:47] [SPEAKER_05]: the Brook Trail and

[02:05:48] [SPEAKER_05]: eventually she arrived at

[02:05:49] [SPEAKER_05]: the trailhead around 9 p.m.

[02:05:51] [SPEAKER_05]: and was driven back to

[02:05:52] [SPEAKER_05]: Champney Falls where her

[02:05:54] [SPEAKER_05]: vehicle was located so she

[02:05:55] [SPEAKER_05]: took a wrong turn off of

[02:05:57] [SPEAKER_05]: that summit there which we've

[02:05:59] [SPEAKER_05]: seen that happen quite a bit

[02:06:00] [SPEAKER_05]: with Chikoras people just

[02:06:02] [SPEAKER_05]: like they get up to the

[02:06:03] [SPEAKER_05]: summit they don't know

[02:06:04] [SPEAKER_05]: exactly how to get back to

[02:06:05] [SPEAKER_05]: where they were.

[02:06:07] [SPEAKER_03]: Hmm yep despite the

[02:06:09] [SPEAKER_03]: signage yep yep all

[02:06:12] [SPEAKER_03]: you're all you're really

[02:06:13] [SPEAKER_03]: just relying on painted

[02:06:15] [SPEAKER_03]: rocks you know markings on

[02:06:16] [SPEAKER_03]: rocks up there and I can

[02:06:18] [SPEAKER_03]: get a little confusing yeah

[02:06:19] [SPEAKER_05]: I mean we take it for

[02:06:20] [SPEAKER_05]: granted I mean I've been up

[02:06:20] [SPEAKER_05]: there many times but you

[02:06:22] [SPEAKER_05]: take it for granted like

[02:06:23] [SPEAKER_05]: you just sort of know where

[02:06:24] [SPEAKER_05]: you're going but it takes

[02:06:26] [SPEAKER_05]: a couple of times to get it

[02:06:27] [SPEAKER_05]: down so.

[02:06:29] [SPEAKER_03]: Can I interject here

[02:06:31] [SPEAKER_03]: just I forgot not only

[02:06:33] [SPEAKER_03]: did I mention this but

[02:06:33] [SPEAKER_03]: Bobby and I talked to one

[02:06:34] [SPEAKER_03]: of the trail workers on

[02:06:36] [SPEAKER_03]: the way up coming as we

[02:06:37] [SPEAKER_03]: were coming down Greenleaf

[02:06:38] [SPEAKER_03]: Trail and the fella

[02:06:41] [SPEAKER_03]: confirmed to us that they

[02:06:42] [SPEAKER_03]: are working on rebuilding

[02:06:44] [SPEAKER_03]: cairns on Greenleaf between

[02:06:46] [SPEAKER_03]: the hut in the summit and

[02:06:47] [SPEAKER_03]: you may notice some new

[02:06:48] [SPEAKER_03]: cairns there now but

[02:06:50] [SPEAKER_03]: they're also going to be

[02:06:51] [SPEAKER_03]: focusing on those hairpins

[02:06:52] [SPEAKER_03]: and that's good news.

[02:06:54] [SPEAKER_03]: That is good.

[02:06:55] [SPEAKER_05]: It's needed it's needed

[02:06:56] [SPEAKER_03]: absolutely excellent all

[02:06:58] [SPEAKER_05]: right Stomp so August 30th

[02:07:01] [SPEAKER_05]: this was a fishing game

[02:07:03] [SPEAKER_05]: notified of a hiker on the

[02:07:04] [SPEAKER_05]: Mount Osceola Trail who

[02:07:06] [SPEAKER_05]: was injured and required

[02:07:07] [SPEAKER_05]: help.

[02:07:08] [SPEAKER_05]: This was a hiker from

[02:07:10] [SPEAKER_05]: Rochester Minnesota who

[02:07:12] [SPEAKER_05]: had suffered a serious

[02:07:14] [SPEAKER_05]: lower leg injury after

[02:07:15] [SPEAKER_05]: slipping on the trail and

[02:07:16] [SPEAKER_05]: could no longer hike.

[02:07:19] [SPEAKER_05]: So rescue is from

[02:07:22] [SPEAKER_05]: Pemme Valley Search and

[02:07:23] [SPEAKER_05]: Rescue Waterville Valley

[02:07:25] [SPEAKER_05]: Department of Public Safety

[02:07:26] [SPEAKER_05]: and Conservation officers

[02:07:28] [SPEAKER_05]: responded to carry the

[02:07:30] [SPEAKER_05]: hiker over 2.5 miles down

[02:07:33] [SPEAKER_05]: the trail so that's a

[02:07:33] [SPEAKER_05]: long distance.

[02:07:35] [SPEAKER_05]: Hiker was trail is long.

[02:07:37] [SPEAKER_05]: Oh yeah.

[02:07:37] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah it is.

[02:07:39] [SPEAKER_05]: So the call came in at

[02:07:40] [SPEAKER_05]: one thirty rescue has

[02:07:41] [SPEAKER_05]: reached the hiker at

[02:07:43] [SPEAKER_05]: three forty five at

[02:07:46] [SPEAKER_05]: fourth or so this goes

[02:07:47] [SPEAKER_05]: back to what we're talking

[02:07:48] [SPEAKER_05]: about how long it takes

[02:07:49] [SPEAKER_05]: you guys to prep.

[02:07:51] [SPEAKER_05]: So at four thirty the

[02:07:52] [SPEAKER_05]: rest you are starting to

[02:07:53] [SPEAKER_05]: see the rescue party to

[02:07:54] [SPEAKER_05]: start of descending the

[02:07:55] [SPEAKER_05]: trail and ended up

[02:07:57] [SPEAKER_05]: getting out of the trail

[02:07:58] [SPEAKER_05]: at seven.

[02:07:59] [SPEAKER_05]: So it's about six hours

[02:08:01] [SPEAKER_05]: or so.

[02:08:02] [SPEAKER_05]: Over 20 rescuers were

[02:08:04] [SPEAKER_05]: involved most of whom

[02:08:05] [SPEAKER_05]: are volunteers.

[02:08:06] [SPEAKER_05]: The hiker was transported

[02:08:08] [SPEAKER_05]: to Speer Memorial Hospital

[02:08:09] [SPEAKER_05]: in Plymouth for

[02:08:11] [SPEAKER_05]: additional medical

[02:08:12] [SPEAKER_05]: treatment and he'd been

[02:08:13] [SPEAKER_05]: with a partner and was

[02:08:14] [SPEAKER_05]: well equipped for a day

[02:08:15] [SPEAKER_05]: hike on Mount Osceola.

[02:08:17] [SPEAKER_05]: So slips happen.

[02:08:19] [SPEAKER_03]: There was much rejoicing

[02:08:20] [SPEAKER_03]: slip happens.

[02:08:22] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh that's the that's the

[02:08:24] [SPEAKER_03]: drop we should use slip

[02:08:25] [SPEAKER_03]: have you Python.

[02:08:27] [SPEAKER_03]: And there was much

[02:08:28] [SPEAKER_03]: rejoicing.

[02:08:29] [SPEAKER_03]: Yes.

[02:08:29] [SPEAKER_06]: That would be a good one.

[02:08:30] [SPEAKER_06]: I'll leave it up to you.

[02:08:32] [SPEAKER_06]: Don't do anything

[02:08:32] [SPEAKER_06]: copyright stomp.

[02:08:33] [SPEAKER_06]: I don't want to get sued.

[02:08:34] [SPEAKER_03]: Exactly.

[02:08:37] [SPEAKER_05]: And then last but not

[02:08:38] [SPEAKER_05]: least old bridle path

[02:08:40] [SPEAKER_05]: stomp 8 p.m.

[02:08:42] [SPEAKER_05]: on September

[02:08:43] [SPEAKER_05]: 1st. So this was this

[02:08:45] [SPEAKER_05]: weekend

[02:08:48] [SPEAKER_05]: fishing game officers

[02:08:49] [SPEAKER_05]: were made aware of an

[02:08:50] [SPEAKER_05]: injured hiker on old

[02:08:51] [SPEAKER_05]: bridle almost a mile

[02:08:53] [SPEAKER_05]: from the trailhead

[02:08:55] [SPEAKER_05]: conservation officers

[02:08:56] [SPEAKER_05]: along with Pemme Valley

[02:08:57] [SPEAKER_05]: Search and Rescue

[02:08:58] [SPEAKER_05]: responded by 9 p.m.

[02:08:59] [SPEAKER_05]: the first rescue was

[02:09:00] [SPEAKER_05]: arrived with the injured

[02:09:01] [SPEAKER_05]: hiker and a contingent

[02:09:03] [SPEAKER_05]: of good Samaritan

[02:09:04] [SPEAKER_05]: hikers who had stopped

[02:09:05] [SPEAKER_05]: to aid the hiker.

[02:09:07] [SPEAKER_05]: It was determined that the

[02:09:08] [SPEAKER_05]: hiker had a medical event

[02:09:09] [SPEAKER_05]: which led to lower

[02:09:11] [SPEAKER_05]: leg injury that

[02:09:12] [SPEAKER_05]: prevented the hiker from

[02:09:13] [SPEAKER_05]: continuing without being

[02:09:14] [SPEAKER_05]: carried off the trail.

[02:09:16] [SPEAKER_05]: So at 930 the carry

[02:09:18] [SPEAKER_05]: out commenced and by

[02:09:19] [SPEAKER_05]: 1030 the part of the

[02:09:20] [SPEAKER_05]: rescue party had arrived

[02:09:21] [SPEAKER_05]: at the trailhead.

[02:09:22] [SPEAKER_05]: This was a

[02:09:23] [SPEAKER_05]: 38 year old hiker from

[02:09:25] [SPEAKER_05]: Mapleshade New Jersey

[02:09:26] [SPEAKER_05]: who had completed the

[02:09:28] [SPEAKER_05]: falling waters bridle

[02:09:30] [SPEAKER_05]: path loop when the

[02:09:31] [SPEAKER_05]: incident trying to

[02:09:32] [SPEAKER_05]: complete the incident.

[02:09:34] [SPEAKER_05]: So passing hikers and

[02:09:36] [SPEAKER_05]: a hiking companion were

[02:09:37] [SPEAKER_05]: able to render aid

[02:09:39] [SPEAKER_05]: stabilizing the hiker

[02:09:40] [SPEAKER_05]: until rescuers arrived

[02:09:43] [SPEAKER_05]: and then she was

[02:09:44] [SPEAKER_05]: transported from the

[02:09:45] [SPEAKER_05]: trailhead by her hiking

[02:09:46] [SPEAKER_05]: companion and they said

[02:09:48] [SPEAKER_05]: that they were both well

[02:09:49] [SPEAKER_05]: prepared for day hike.

[02:09:50] [SPEAKER_05]: So get a

[02:09:52] [SPEAKER_05]: hike safe card.

[02:09:53] [SPEAKER_05]: Stomp.

[02:09:54] [SPEAKER_03]: Absolutely.

[02:09:55] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[02:09:55] [SPEAKER_03]: Support fishing game.

[02:09:58] [SPEAKER_05]: All right.

[02:09:59] [SPEAKER_05]: So I'm going to go back

[02:10:00] [SPEAKER_05]: to my my farm in

[02:10:02] [SPEAKER_05]: Flatwood Kentucky and I

[02:10:03] [SPEAKER_05]: will see you next week.

[02:10:05] [SPEAKER_03]: All right.

[02:10:06] [SPEAKER_03]: Hey you know what I got

[02:10:07] [SPEAKER_03]: one last thing to add to

[02:10:08] [SPEAKER_03]: the potpourri here.

[02:10:10] [SPEAKER_03]: OK I think we need to

[02:10:12] [SPEAKER_03]: mention this because we're

[02:10:13] [SPEAKER_03]: we're part of it.

[02:10:14] [SPEAKER_03]: The Rescue Me 5K.

[02:10:16] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh yes.

[02:10:16] [SPEAKER_03]: Coming up.

[02:10:17] [SPEAKER_03]: Let me just mention it

[02:10:18] [SPEAKER_03]: once and we'll do we'll

[02:10:19] [SPEAKER_03]: touch upon it again but

[02:10:20] [SPEAKER_03]: Saturday November 9th

[02:10:22] [SPEAKER_03]: 2024 at One Love Brewery

[02:10:24] [SPEAKER_03]: 25 South Mountain Drive

[02:10:25] [SPEAKER_03]: Lincoln.

[02:10:26] [SPEAKER_03]: It's the Rescue Me 5K

[02:10:29] [SPEAKER_03]: race which benefits

[02:10:31] [SPEAKER_03]: local search and rescue

[02:10:32] [SPEAKER_03]: and we will be

[02:10:35] [SPEAKER_03]: there as well helping

[02:10:37] [SPEAKER_03]: out.

[02:10:37] [SPEAKER_03]: But yeah check it out.

[02:10:39] [SPEAKER_03]: Sign up.

[02:10:39] [SPEAKER_03]: You can sign up on run

[02:10:40] [SPEAKER_03]: sign up dot com.

[02:10:42] [SPEAKER_03]: But that's coming up

[02:10:43] [SPEAKER_03]: soon.

[02:10:44] [SPEAKER_05]: Very good Stomp.

[02:10:46] [SPEAKER_05]: I think I

[02:10:48] [SPEAKER_05]: feel like I

[02:10:51] [SPEAKER_05]: placed last year in my age

[02:10:53] [SPEAKER_05]: group so I have

[02:10:55] [SPEAKER_02]: some pressure.

[02:10:58] [SPEAKER_02]: Well we're apparently

[02:10:59] [SPEAKER_02]: hosting this one.

[02:11:00] [SPEAKER_02]: Do you remember.

[02:11:01] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh true.

[02:11:02] [SPEAKER_02]: True.

[02:11:02] [SPEAKER_02]: So maybe it's I don't know

[02:11:03] [SPEAKER_02]: if you'll be racing.

[02:11:04] [SPEAKER_02]: Well actually I guess you

[02:11:05] [SPEAKER_02]: could do both.

[02:11:06] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah I could.

[02:11:07] [SPEAKER_05]: I could do both.

[02:11:08] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah there you go.

[02:11:09] [SPEAKER_03]: You could do you could do

[02:11:10] [SPEAKER_03]: a mic drop you could do

[02:11:11] [SPEAKER_03]: a countdown get everybody

[02:11:13] [SPEAKER_03]: running at this do a mic

[02:11:14] [SPEAKER_03]: drop and start running.

[02:11:15] [SPEAKER_05]: That's true.

[02:11:16] [SPEAKER_05]: All right so last year

[02:11:17] [SPEAKER_05]: I was looking at my

[02:11:17] [SPEAKER_05]: results so I was 10th

[02:11:19] [SPEAKER_05]: place overall

[02:11:21] [SPEAKER_05]: basically everybody

[02:11:21] [SPEAKER_05]: that well there's one

[02:11:22] [SPEAKER_05]: guy that OK well never

[02:11:23] [SPEAKER_05]: mind.

[02:11:24] [SPEAKER_05]: I was going to say it's

[02:11:25] [SPEAKER_05]: all like high school kids

[02:11:26] [SPEAKER_05]: it'd be but it's not.

[02:11:27] [SPEAKER_05]: There was a 66 year old

[02:11:29] [SPEAKER_06]: dude that ran

[02:11:30] [SPEAKER_06]: a run of 1940

[02:11:32] [SPEAKER_06]: what's this guy.

[02:11:33] [SPEAKER_06]: What kind of weed is this

[02:11:34] [SPEAKER_06]: guy eating.

[02:11:37] [SPEAKER_05]: But anyway I finished

[02:11:38] [SPEAKER_05]: first in my age group so

[02:11:39] [SPEAKER_05]: I get it.

[02:11:40] [SPEAKER_05]: I'm defending champion

[02:11:41] [SPEAKER_05]: Stomp.

[02:11:43] [SPEAKER_05]: Excellent.

[02:11:44] [SPEAKER_03]: That's so great.

[02:11:45] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[02:11:46] [SPEAKER_03]: So all right.

[02:11:47] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah we will.

[02:11:48] [SPEAKER_02]: I won't be running at

[02:11:49] [SPEAKER_02]: this year.

[02:11:50] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm out of the running

[02:11:51] [SPEAKER_02]: gig for a little while.

[02:11:52] [SPEAKER_05]: OK well we will

[02:11:53] [SPEAKER_05]: we'll see everybody

[02:11:54] [SPEAKER_02]: next week.

[02:11:56] [SPEAKER_02]: All right.

[02:11:56] [SPEAKER_02]: Ready.

[02:11:57] [SPEAKER_02]: Later.

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[02:12:37] [SPEAKER_12]: Until then on behalf

[02:12:38] [SPEAKER_12]: of Mike and Stomp

[02:12:39] [SPEAKER_12]: get out there

[02:12:40] [SPEAKER_12]: and crush

[02:12:41] [SPEAKER_12]: some

[02:12:43] [SPEAKER_12]: mega

[02:12:43] [SPEAKER_12]: heat.

[02:12:45] [SPEAKER_12]: Now covered in scratches

[02:12:47] [SPEAKER_12]: blisters and bug bites

[02:12:48] [SPEAKER_12]: Chris Staff wanted to

[02:12:49] [SPEAKER_02]: complete his most

[02:12:50] [SPEAKER_02]: challenging day hike

[02:12:51] [SPEAKER_02]: ever.

[02:12:52] [SPEAKER_09]: Fish and Game officers

[02:12:53] [SPEAKER_09]: say the hiker from

[02:12:54] [SPEAKER_09]: Florida activated

[02:12:56] [SPEAKER_09]: an emergency beacon

[02:12:57] [SPEAKER_09]: yesterday morning.

[02:12:59] [SPEAKER_09]: He was hiking along the

[02:13:00] [SPEAKER_09]: Appalachian Trail when

[02:13:01] [SPEAKER_09]: the weather started to

[02:13:02] [SPEAKER_09]: get worse.

[02:13:03] [SPEAKER_09]: Officials say the snow

[02:13:04] [SPEAKER_09]: was piled up to three

[02:13:05] [SPEAKER_09]: feet in some spots and

[02:13:07] [SPEAKER_09]: there was a wind chill

[02:13:08] [SPEAKER_09]: of minus one degree.

[02:13:10] [SPEAKER_06]: There's three words

[02:13:11] [SPEAKER_06]: that describe this race

[02:13:13] [SPEAKER_06]: and we all know what

[02:13:13] [SPEAKER_06]: they are.

[02:13:15] Only one hill!

[02:13:17] [SPEAKER_07]: This is Lieutenant James

[02:13:18] [SPEAKER_07]: Nealon from New Hampshire

[02:13:19] [SPEAKER_07]: Fish and Game.

[02:13:20] [SPEAKER_07]: Lieutenant thanks for

[02:13:20] [SPEAKER_07]: being with us today.

[02:13:21] [SPEAKER_07]: Thanks for having me.

[02:13:23] [SPEAKER_07]: What are some of the

[02:13:24] [SPEAKER_07]: most common mistakes

[02:13:25] [SPEAKER_07]: you see people make

[02:13:26] [SPEAKER_07]: when they're heading

[02:13:26] [SPEAKER_07]: out on the trails to

[02:13:27] [SPEAKER_07]: hike here in New

[02:13:27] [SPEAKER_07]: Hampshire?

[02:13:28] [SPEAKER_01]: It seems to me the most

[02:13:28] [SPEAKER_01]: common is being

[02:13:29] [SPEAKER_01]: unprepared.

[02:13:30] [SPEAKER_01]: I think if they just

[02:13:31] [SPEAKER_01]: simply visited

[02:13:32] [SPEAKER_01]: Hikesafe.com and got a

[02:13:34] [SPEAKER_01]: list of the ten

[02:13:34] [SPEAKER_01]: essential items and

[02:13:35] [SPEAKER_01]: had those in their

[02:13:36] [SPEAKER_01]: packs, they probably

[02:13:37] [SPEAKER_01]: would have no need to

[02:13:38] [SPEAKER_01]: ever call us at all.