Episode 185 - Cindy and Paul from 48 Peaks - Alzheimer’s Association, Rescue on Franconia Ridge, Man lives with Goats

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[00:03:18] Welcome to the Sounds Like a Search and Rescue podcast. Where we discuss all things related to hiking and search and rescue in the White Mountains of New Hampshire. Here are your hosts, Mike and Stump.

[00:03:31] I'm recording on my end too.

[00:04:03] Alright, so Cindy and Paul, welcome, welcome to the Slasher Podcast. So Cindy, you've been here before, so... Yeah? It's been pretty easy for you, right? It's gotten easier with time. A little practice. It's always good to be back. Right, right. So yeah, so we've got the Alzheimer's crew here. So, Paul, welcome to the Slasher Podcast. So for the listeners, me and Paul are friends. We hiked a bunch of times together, but this is your first time on a podcast, right? This is correct.

[00:04:31] This is virgin territory. But you're like a business guy. You've done like presentations and spoken in front of large crowds, right? A little bit, sure. Okay, alright. So anyway, so the reason I wanted to start hitting recording now is... I just want to get this on the show. So Stomp is not coming tonight. He just texted me. Oh wow. He is... I'm so offended, Stomp. Well, he's apparently out rescuing another like renters. So snowmobile renters.

[00:04:59] So he texted me at like six o'clock and he's like, I'm not... I don't know if I'm going to make it because there's these, you know, snowmobile renters who are... They need help. So anyway, so Cindy had... Before we started recording, Cindy's like, I may need to step away. See, you're the co-host. I am. See, I didn't know that coming into this. I know. I know. I didn't tell you guys, but you're going to have to co-host. Your second chair. That's right. He blindsided us, Paul. Oh my gosh, Mike.

[00:05:29] Because... Hopefully that means to feel better. Yeah, Cindy has the most experience. So I figure, Cindy, you will be the co-host. And then Paul, when we need something from you, we will ask. Oh, that's terrifying. I don't know if you want to do that, Mike. I'll try. Well, anyway. Are you referencing the script? Do you have that in front of you? I do have it in front of me. I will do my best. Okay, so you're going to have to follow along and you're going to have to work with me

[00:05:57] to do piffy little commentary. Okay. Okay, so you've listened to the show enough. So anyway, for the listeners, again, Cindy and Paul, they're here with Alzheimer's. We're going to talk about 48 Peaks, the longest day, how you can join up and help us raise money for this. But before we do that, we've got a bunch of different little topics that we've got to cover here. So the first thing is Cindy's cracking her cider, which is nice. Yes.

[00:06:23] Valentine's Day is coming up and I want to ask both of you because you're actually better positioned than I am to address this one. So Stomp pulled an article about a difficulty that couples are facing. So me and Stomp, we've been married forever. You guys are, I think like, I don't know if you're single, dating, whatever the situation is, but Stomp pulled this Valentine's Day article and we mostly did Valentine's Day stuff last week, but I wanted to continue this.

[00:06:49] So there's an article from the Wall Street Journal that talks about relationship challenges around location sharing apps. Do you guys know about these location sharing apps? Like I'm on Life 360 with my kids. Yeah, same. And my wife. You're the same. So Paul, you have Life 360 with your kids? Correct.

[00:07:08] So if you're in a relationship, say you got a new relationship, are you, at what point are you signing up for Life 360 to share with your new partner? Never. Never. Never. I don't know if I... I don't know. I've never thought about it in that capacity. It's been something that, yeah, it's been something I just thought about like parent to child, you know,

[00:07:38] wanting to make sure that your kids are safe and know what they're up to, where they're at. But beyond that, I've never thought about it from a spouse or significant other. Yeah. So this article talks about, it talks about basically how these people are getting into these dating relationships and then when it comes time to sign up for location sharing, like some of the partners are like, I don't want you tracking me. And then that's a huge red flag. And they're like, you must be up to nonsense. And then they break up over it.

[00:08:06] So I don't know, Cindy, do you have a take on this? I honestly don't use any of those tracking apps. I don't think... I've heard like friends talk about it where they screen share, or not screen share, but you know, like location share. But then they forget to stop the sharing. So like there's people I know who keep following certain people and it's been like a while. I don't know how I've... I don't know. No, thank you. I'm good. If it's like a specific situation, I sent like a Google tracking kind of thing to my mother, for example.

[00:08:37] But it's just something you've never spoken about. It's not that you're up to shenanigans. It's just you've never spoken about it. No. I mean, if it needed to, maybe I would, but... Yeah. Like I got nothing to hide. So me and my wife, we've been on it forever with our kids. But I like it because my kids are all over the country. And at some point, like I had one in Hawaii, I got another one in London. So it's nice to like look to see, you know, where are they? Mm-hmm. So... Well, I suppose as a kid, I suppose they're in college now.

[00:09:04] They don't want me looking at like Saturday night at two in the morning to see where they're partying or whatever. So... Right. That's how my little would feel. Yeah. Yeah. I'm part of a big sister association as well. And my little's over in Ireland and I'm like, how would she feel about her mom tracking all these things she's doing over there now, you know? All right. So then just to recap then, so Mike is on Life 360. I got no problem with it. I'm not doing anything. I'm also old.

[00:09:32] Paul is on Life 360 with his kids, but not his significant other. And then Cindy is just sort of like, hasn't really thought about it, but probably wouldn't ever share her location. No. Not unless it was like a specific situation. Look at you, secret squirrel. Flying under the radar. She may be up to shenanigans, Paul. I don't know. I'll never tell. All right. You'll never tell. All right.

[00:10:01] So welcome to episode 185 of the Sounds Like a Search and Rescue podcast. This week, our friends from 48 Peaks, the Alzheimer's Association join us as we join the fight against Alzheimer's by encouraging everyone to participate in the 2025, the longest day 48 Peaks hiking and fundraising event. So Cindy's here. She's a multi-time guest. She's now our co-host. So when I do the part where I say, I'm Mike, you're going to say, I'm Cindy, right? Oh. So get ready for that. Okay. So a lot of pressure. Get your timing down. I know.

[00:10:30] So Cindy's a multi-time guest on Slasher and Paul's a personal hiking buddy of mine. Um, and he's going to join us to, uh, to talk about this. So we'll get some updates from Cindy on her adventures. Paul's going to spill the beans on what it's like to hike with me over the last year or so. Plus he'll share his personal story of how Alzheimer's has impacted his family and his journey to fundraise, um, through 48 Peaks. So all this plus we've got some big snow coming in New Hampshire.

[00:10:57] We've got, um, some reminders about staying prepared for adverse weather conditions. Uh, there's a rescue on Franconia Ridge. We've got more place name changes in the news. And there's a story of a man who was adopted by a herd of goats. So I'm Mike. And I'm Cindy. Let's get started. Oh, I forgot that part. Sorry, Mike. That's fine. You did. You did amazing. Thank you. All right. So let's, let's move into, we're going to do a drop for a while. Raven endurance coaching. So let's do that.

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[00:12:54] So we're back. Thank you, Christina, for keeping us healthy and fit. So I got a couple of articles here that I wanted you guys to go over here. So Cindy, I want to get your take first. So this weekend, we've got Snow Safe Summit, which is at the Barn Door Hostel in Rumney. Are you going to this thing? I can't make it, but I know a lot of people are going and I know Lynn's running it with a bunch of people. Lynn is running it.

[00:13:19] Our friend Lynn, who is the bundle of energy that is involved in all things White Mountains, is going to be there. So this event is at the Barn Door Hostel. It runs from February 15th and 16th. So it's this weekend and there'll be a campfire conversation with Ty Gagney. Friday, it looks like there's going to be like, you can check in, you can do camping, and then there'll be a family style meal and then casual gathering around the fire side.

[00:13:50] On Saturday, there's going to be skills clinics, vendors and speakers. There'll also be food trucks and some fireside speakers as well. And then there's going to be four skill clinics. I'm going to be there doing one of the skill clinics. So if you want to know how to pack your gear for winter hiking, how to strap your snowshoes onto your backpack, Paul knows I'm a disaster on trail. I'm like fiddling with everything. So, but I'm going to be there to do my best to try to teach people what's going on.

[00:14:18] So this is the first time this has been done, right? Cindy, I don't think she's ever done this before. Yeah, no, this is new. It's a new collaboration. I know she's been working wicked hard on it. And I actually saw them post that, I think Mount Washington Observatory is going to be involved too with something. That's it's, it sounds incredible, like looking at the lineup. So definitely go if you can. Yeah, I'm excited. It'll be good to see everybody. I don't know, Paul, you, are you going to be up there?

[00:14:46] You, you, if you bail out on hiking, you might want to come by. Yeah, very true. I did reach out to Lynn about it. Cause I was curious if you could buy individual day passes. Cause there's, there's a Saturday agenda and a Sunday agenda. She said, yeah. So, and I think there are still some, some passes available. So it's definitely worth checking out. Awesome. Yeah. I'll include this in the show notes if people want to check it out and then come by and see me, I'll have stickers.

[00:15:12] And then I think we're going to raffle off some Valcluse gear. So that will be, that'll be good. That sounds pretty sweet. Yeah, I'm excited. I'm excited. And then as we go along with the snow safe summit, it looks like we're going to get a decent amount of snow. Um, I don't know if the forecast has changed since I've taken, taking a look at this, but there's a big snow storm making its way through New Hampshire for the weekend. And they're predicting between 14 to 18 inches of snow.

[00:15:42] It looks like it's going to hit late Saturday into Sunday. So I think that people just need to be aware that this weather's coming in and we're going to get whacked. Maybe it'll be a little bit lower, um, snow totals, but it may, up to 18 inches. And then behind that storm is going to be brutally cold conditions on Monday. So, um, just be prepared out there, but I'm excited. And I think it's going to be good for snowmobile and it's going to be good for hiking. You know, I feel like we haven't had a big giant snow storm like this in a while. So I'm pumped. Yeah.

[00:16:10] I didn't realize it increased to that many, that many inches of snow. I'm heading up to Conway area and I think we're supposed to get slammed too. So I got to watch the weather. When you go to Conway, you staying at a house or you stay at a hotel or something? We're staying up at a Conway hostel, just right in downtown Conway. So that's usually, um, this will be the second time I've stayed there. I haven't been over to Conway side as much. It's nice. That's, that's my, my side of the mountain. Are you going hiking this weekend?

[00:16:40] I'm going to try to hike on Saturday before the storm thinking I was texting Paul about this. I was thinking hedgehog before the snow hits and then just hunkered down on Sunday. Maybe, maybe get out if the roads clear out, clear up. We'll see. That's a good, yeah. Paul, didn't you just do hedgehog recently? I did hedgehog probably about a month ago. About a month ago. Yeah, about a month ago. It was, I don't know, early January, late December. They're all starting to blend together a little bit.

[00:17:10] Yeah. Hedgehog is good. It's a great, yeah, great little mountain. You should have fun too. You might see some moose there too. Really? That's a good one. That's the only place I've ever seen moose. Really? Yes. I saw my first moose actually back in the fall down in Tamworth area off of 16, came out of someone's front yard and just ran across the road and I was like, oh my gosh. I couldn't believe I had finally seen one. They're so big. Yeah, they are. Yeah. Very exciting.

[00:17:40] Anyway, well, hedgehog is good. The one thing I will say about hedgehog is that there's no cell phone connection there. Yes. And you're not going to get any, so you have to be prepared. So I put together a little segment here about reminders about preparedness, particularly in scenarios where you might be out hiking and then you come back and you find like you're either plowed in because there's so much snow or your car battery dies or something like that.

[00:18:08] Do you guys feel like, Paul, do you feel like you're pretty well prepared with like all the gear in your car in case an emergency happens at the trailhead? I would love to say yes, but definitely not. Stomp. Okay, stomp. Put the shame trunk in. What about you, Cindy? Are you prepared? I would say halfway. I do have like a box in my trunk with an emergency blanket and first aid and all that. I have a shovel, my scraper, all that. Yeah. That's pretty good. I'll stay partly there, you know. Yeah, yeah. You got an oh shit box. That's good.

[00:18:37] I do. All right. So I put together a list and then I'll also put in the show notes like the National Weather Service gives like a recommendation on certain gear that you should have for your car. So Paul, listen up and you're going to go to the Amazon or the Walmart or whatever and get this stuff. So the first thing you want is the shovel. I can tell you from personal experience, like either you want the shovel so that you can shovel yourself into a trailhead or out of a trailhead because you will get sometimes you'll get plowed in.

[00:19:08] So having a shovel for sure. And a lot of times it's also like just to have it to help other people out. Um, I also recommend like a snow rake so that you can more easily and quickly wipe snow off. Like I've seen a lot of people that have those little tiny snow brushes, which I guess is great in the driveway when you get a couple of inches of snow. But I recommend that people that are going to be up in New Hampshire get those big long telescoping, um, snow rakes so you can clear stuff off your car more quickly.

[00:19:38] Um, yeah, those are great. I have one of those. Yeah, exactly. And, and then also the other thing is a battery charger and also jumper cables. So you have both scenarios. Ideally you want it like a, a rechargeable battery pack so that you can quickly jumpstart your car if you need to. And then as a backup having jumper cables, just in case, um, you know, sometimes those battery chargers, they drain down or whatever. So, um, I recommend having those.

[00:20:07] Um, the other thing that they recommend is windshield wiper fluid or anti-carrier. And primarily this is just in case you run out of any, uh, or when windshield wiper fluid, but also for you to pour onto the little sections where, um, your windshield wiper fluid like comes out that tends to get frozen over. So if you have windshield wiper fluid, you can free up so you can actually clear your, your windshields when you're driving and salt comes. That's a good list. Yeah. Yeah.

[00:20:37] The other things here, heavy, I like to have heavy duty floor mats. So number one, you're not douching up your car when you're getting in and putting snow in there. And then the other thing is these heavy duty floor mats can sometimes double as traction devices in case you have to shove them under your, your tires. I've had to do that before to get out. Oh, I'll, I'll remember that. I have those as well. Yeah. So, and then the rubber floor mats go flying behind the car after you spin a little bit, but sometimes it works, right?

[00:21:06] So they also say, um, uh, a bag of sand or kitty litter is good for traction if you need to do that. Um, a flashlight. So obviously we're going to have our headlamps with us, but a larger flashlight is helpful in case you need to like look under the car for some reason. And then the, the last couple of things they have here is a tow rope just in case if you, if you need to get towed out and then also a zero degree sleeping bag or some sort of warm

[00:21:33] blanket so you can survive in case you're, you're stuck in your car. Mm-hmm . So anyway, I feel like our friend Steve from the Cape has all this stuff in his car. I guarantee that. So. Is this the Steve eats? Uh, what? Steve eats shit. Yeah. Okay. Yes. I know who you're talking about. Cause yeah, he's he'll drive up on like a Thursday and then, uh, he camps out for the weekend and goes hiking. So. Um, and he stays in his car most of the time at campgrounds. So he's pretty hardy.

[00:22:01] Mm-hmm . I gotta get the kitty litter and the sand. I don't have that. Yeah. Also the good thing about having the kitty litter is just in case you happen to find a kitty, you can take care of them in your car when you take them home, right? You're just encouraging the cat distribution. That's right. Whatever they call it. Yeah. Yeah. It's gonna come find me. Steal kitties. Exactly. Um, all right. So then, uh, so anyway, are we ready? That's all I got for the car stuff. Are you prepared now?

[00:22:31] I have some. I've got my list. Yeah. Yeah. I did too. Very good. All right. So, um, this next one, Stomp had something about like snowmobiling, but we'll have to wait till next week cause I don't even know what he's talking about here. Um. I don't either. So the, yeah, I don't know either what that is. So the next thing I want to talk about is, um, I want to pull this forward. So there was three hikers in distress on Franconia Ridge. So have you, you both hiked Franconia Ridge, right? Yeah. Multiple times. Yeah.

[00:23:01] Cindy, have you hiked it in the winter? No, I hiked it in October when it was all socked in and damp though. So I couldn't see. It was not quite winter, but it wasn't fun. It was pretty miserable. It wasn't fun. Yeah. Have you been up there, Paul, in the winter? Not in the winter, but, uh, I've, I've probably done it six, eight times. Oh, hell. Okay. Spring, summer, fall. Got it. So you both know the lay of the land here. So this one happened. So again, this is another one.

[00:23:26] I think the, the previous rescue that happened on Mount Washington was a Sunday night as well. So this is another case of like a late afternoon, early evening call, um, on, you know, on a, on exposed Ridge. So this was on Sunday at five 30, uh, conservation officers got a call. They were made aware of an SOS alert from the area of Mount Lincoln. So these folks were going up falling waters. They were on Mount Lincoln. So they had passed a little haystack.

[00:23:56] They're on Lincoln, but there's still people think like, oh yeah, Lincoln and Lafayette are right next to each other. But like when you're standing on Lincoln, like that's a long way to go. You know, you're talking, I don't know, a mile or so at least, um, to get over there, maybe a little bit less, but it's still, it's a climb down and then a climb up. You know, I think you got to go up probably about 500 feet to get to Lafayette. So they're, they're, they're right in the middle of the Ridge at five 30, it's getting dark and it sounds like the conditions are not great. So it was three males.

[00:24:26] They had intended a winter hike of falling waters, bridal path loop. So they were basically doing the traditional route up falling waters down old bridal. Um, so the group was experiencing whiteout conditions and suffering from cold related injuries, stating through text messages that they needed help. Uh, they were able to the, I guess the conservation officers were able to track the devices. And it showed that they were slowly moving towards the summit of Mount Lafayette.

[00:24:55] So a team of rescuers comprising of conservation officers and volunteers with the Pemi Valley search and rescue team responded to the trailhead. So five 30 call comes in by seven 30. They're at the trailhead of old bridal, um, as the hikers had started to slowly descend Mount Lafayette. So they will make it the, luckily they kept moving. If they didn't, if they, you don't want to sit still up there cause you'd be screwed.

[00:25:20] I've, I've wanted to get off that mountain in a heartbeat in October, let alone, you know, the dead of January, February. Yeah. So, I mean, you're, you're in a tough spot if you're calling for rescue at five 30. So the thing on the timing on this is that they actually started their hike at nine in the morning. So that's a long day. Five, that's a long day. So they were going slow. So they start at nine in the morning.

[00:25:45] I, I have no idea what time they got to little haystack, but they call at five 30 and they're on Lincoln. I mean, they're basically halfway through the hike in eight and a half hours. So there's a pacing thing going on there that I'm not clear about. They don't really talk about it here, but by seven 30, the first rescue is they head up old bridal path. The hikers are coming down Mount Lafayette towards green leaf hut.

[00:26:11] They didn't get any more messages from the group because they explained it was difficult to text message in the cold. As you get down Lafayette, when you're coming down, that's the top of the green leaf trail. That's a dicey section because there's a couple of right angles that you have to hit. And then you're also directly facing the wind typically from there. So by nine 10, the first rescuers came into contact with the group, the group just below green leaf hut. So these, these guys did hike out.

[00:26:40] And I guess by the time they met with the rescue team, they were given additional light sources because their headlamps had gone dead and they were basically able to head out and they made it out to the, the trailhead around 1020. So it was a, it was two 24 year old hikers from Cambridge and Boston, and then a 25 year old hiker from Boston. So again, they departed at 9am and they ascended falling waters.

[00:27:08] They said that the progress across the ridge was slowed by deep snow and whiteout conditions, making the trail difficult. Once they got to Lincoln, they felt like turning back wasn't the best decision. So they continued on. I mean, at that point it's six of one half thousand. Yeah. Pick your shitty, shitty options. Cause you have no good options. Um, they hadn't, they, they have activated the SOS on their device. So it doesn't say what the device is. It's probably a cell phone.

[00:27:34] Um, fishing game said the group was fairly well prepared for winter conditions, but lacked experience above tree line. And they were apparently training for Mount Washington, but they put that on, on hold. They did have hike safeguards and the three were appreciative of the rescues. And, um, you know, it happened during Superbowl Sunday. So they said they felt bad that they, they took the, uh, rescue team away from the game. But you know, I'm sure that the people that were involved in the rescue were happy to help out.

[00:28:03] So, but lucky close, another close call. Yeah. So you don't see these too often. No. In the winter, like typically what I've seen is like really the winter rescues die out, but this is two in two weeks that have been like very close calls. Yeah.

[00:28:22] I mean, first of all, shout out to SAR for going to get them like that's no, no joke, but, um, it's when I was reading the article, my first thought was this is the exact age group hiking buddies is trying to reach with their educational programs, you know, with red line guiding, you know, the classes and such. I mean, I'm really glad they were mostly prepared, like you said, and had some type of beacon to be able to call for help. Otherwise that could have ended badly. Right. Right. Yeah.

[00:28:51] And I've, I've covered this before when I've done, uh, presentations on search and rescue data and there is a trend where, and there's probably over the last five or six years now, I've got like probably about eight or 10 examples of young people in this age group, typically in groups anywhere from like three to six.

[00:29:09] To eight people. And, um, going out for a grand adventure, a lot of times in the winter. And, um, I think it's like, it's, it's either, um, grad students or recent college grads that have moved to the city. And they sort of think like, all right, I'm going to come up for a grand adventure. Don't have a ton of experience, but they're physically fit and ready to go and they get in trouble.

[00:29:32] So I think this is probably another, another one of those, um, scenarios here where is that, you know, they're reasonably fit, have some experience, but nowhere near enough to be up doing what they're doing. So, uh, but kudos to them for getting out for sure. Yeah. I'm impressed. They made it to the, you said the hut, right? They made it down Greenleaf where the rest of the room.

[00:30:02] There's three sections where you have to find where the trail goes into the tree lines and then it comes out again and then goes back in. And if you can't see where the hut is, it can be easy for you to go off trail. So hopefully they, um, they learn their lesson and they'll, they'll take a little less aggressive routes next time. Yeah. And also kudos to them for having the hike safeguard that I've been seeing more of those in the rescues recently. So that's good. Hopefully it continues. Yeah.

[00:30:30] Yeah. Yeah. I just, I mean, I don't love the pacing on this one. I feel like, you know, given the timing that this thing all played out, like there was probably some checks at little haystack and coming up falling waters where they might've done a reality check to say like, look, you know, we've got another six miles, five miles to go and we're not making very good time, but I don't know the details. It could be that they were super fast and it took them four hours to get across the ridge, cutting, breaking snow.

[00:30:55] So I don't know if they had snowshoes, who knows what the story is, but, um, interesting, interesting rescue. Yes. Interesting. I did get that in there. Yes. Excellent. Um, anything else to add to this one, Paul? I was curious if it mentions when they lost their lamps, you had mentioned that contact was made at nine 30, but how much before that?

[00:31:24] Yeah. I don't know. They had lamps go dead because, you know, to, to Cindy's point, you know, it's, it's somewhat impressive that they made it all the way to green leaf. It is. I'd be, I'd be curious when they lost light. Yeah. It doesn't say, uh, the details here, but, um, luckily that it sounds like they did have some kind of light cause if they didn't have anything, they'd be in trouble. But it's always like have two headlamps, have that backup. Cause you never know. We said that at our recent public lands event, it was like two headlamps. That's right.

[00:31:54] That one. Yeah. Yeah. I already too. Were your ears tingling a little bit? Like burning? It might've been. I don't know. We didn't want any shame drops. We didn't want a shame drop. I might've thought it was another earthquake. So, yeah. All right. I got a couple of national stories here. So first of all, congratulations to the Philadelphia Eagles for winning the Superbowl. I was, I was rooting for them, not cause I liked them. Cause I think Philly fans are the worst, but I just didn't want any talk of Mahomes being similar to like Tom Brady.

[00:32:24] So I want, I want Mahomes below here and Tom Brady up here. So I'm happy for that. So, um, but Philly fans being awful. So they, they boo Taylor Swift. We cannot have that. So that's a shame drop. Shame. Um, at that stomp. Yeah. At that stomp. Right. And then Lamar Kendrick, his halftime show was very controversial because I think like I'm apparently, my kids deem me a boomer. Cause I was kind of like, I don't really know any of this music.

[00:32:52] I guess it's okay, but I didn't love it. Love it. It's not my thing. But, uh, apparently I was told that I'm supposed to love it and that he's like this transcendent artist that we're supposed to like. So I don't know if I didn't get it. I apologize, but I'm happy that other people are happy for him. They are, they are going to shame you even harder because it's actually Kendrick Lamar. Oh, Kendrick Lamar, whatever. Oh. Lamar Kendrick, whatever it is. So you guys let, did you let me keep that in the. I didn't realize it until you said it. But no relation.

[00:33:24] You guys didn't tip me off on the, um, the script ahead of time so I don't look like an idiot. I didn't realize I was going to co-host, so I'm sorry. I wasn't editing. Okay. Anyway, so it's Kendrick Lamar, Lamar Kendrick, whatever. It's Kendrick Lamar and it's no relation. All right. I earned my boomer card tonight, people. Um, all right. So moving on to, we got a couple of other things here. So Stomp pulled these articles.

[00:33:53] He loves earthquakes and tsunamis. So, um, when we had the earthquake in, in York, he, we would text him back and forth and he immediately was like, there's a tsunami coming. And I was like, I don't know what you're talking about. So, but this one here, there was a, um, 8.0 earthquake in the Caribbean with a tsunami warning that happened on February 8th. And it turns out that like, there was no, no waves.

[00:34:22] So I guess it was just a false warning, but I feel like there's more and more earthquakes and they're getting closer to us. So I don't like that. Eight sounds terrifying. Yeah. Like an 8.0 on the rate of scale. That's big, but I guess it was underwater. So did you, did you guys feel the earthquake the other, a couple of weeks ago? No, I didn't. You did Paul. I did. Yeah. Did you know immediately or did you think it was a truck? No, I think we had talked about it in isolation.

[00:34:52] I was, uh, just came off a work zoom and the house behind me is doing construction. So I thought it was them throwing stuff into the dumpster and just kind of regular noise that I've been dealing with for, uh, for a couple of months now. But I took the Facebook and sure enough, the, uh, the Wakefield community Facebook group was a buzz. They were a buzz. They were a buzz.

[00:35:44] So, yeah. We'll see you next time. Performance Grade purple t-shirt. Let's turn the White Mountains purple to end Alzheimer's. Visit alts.org right slash 48 peaks.

[00:36:08] That's alz.org right slash the numbers 48 peaks to learn more. um all right so this next one this is a heartwarming story so stomp pulled this one um a 35 year old from london was so um serious that i guess he um this guy was exhausted by the stresses

[00:36:37] and strains of modern life so thomas twaits decided to forgo home comforts and test if the grass was really greener elsewhere by living as a goat in switzerland so 35 year old from london um had this idea to spend an entire year creating prosthetic goat legs to gallivant around the alps on all fours as well as an artificial stomach that would enable him to eat grass so this guy's a full

[00:37:04] commit like so there's a picture of him so he has like a um do you know i'm trying to think what movie it is i think it's like um what's the movie with his monkeys but they have long arms and roller skates do you know what i'm talking about no uh um was that was that was that michael jackson's

[00:37:34] version of the whiz yeah i think it was yeah okay it's the whiz i think he has like the the witch's monkeys they have like long arms and roller skates or whatever so this guy has like these long prosthetics on his arms to extend down so he can walk on all fours and um he has a helmet on and he's

[00:37:57] like walking around with all these goats so he um he basically experimented with um with these and he wanted to get outside of himself and experience the world from a different perspective even if it meant spending his days chewing up grass and avoiding some goats that were less accepting of his new friend so some of the goats didn't accept him that's so sad he's committed he tried so hard and they just

[00:38:21] he did yeah rejected him yeah he had no job and he had a lot of personal problems so he found that like this was an idea that would relieve stress for him he thought about trying to become a dog but he didn't want to eat meat so he preferred to eat grass and uh yeah this is wild he's got like um he's got these like hoofs on his hands and then he's got this like um prosthetic on his legs that helps

[00:38:48] him like stay bent over i guess so um this can't be that i refuse to believe this is a real story this has got to be a plant so have you seen those goats have you seen those fainting goats with this yes yes i've seen those like if you ran up and spooked him what maybe maybe well i guess the deal is is

[00:39:13] what he did is he applied for a universe a university grant to study goat psychology so he tracked down a goat herd in the village of wolfsheschen in switzerland which beautiful which was prepared to take him in for a few days while the animals grazed on their summer pasture um he then i guess tried the prosthetic limbs to create his goat leg so this was a test

[00:39:41] and then um he designed a goat stomach which was strapped to his waist so i could strap this bag to my torso and spit chewed up grass into one opening and suck the cultured microbes and volatile fatty acids out another opening like a milkshake so i could digest them in my true stomach and live off grass in the alps like a goat this is disgusting there are inevitably

[00:40:08] obstacles to live to life as a goat which at times became a little uphill struggle he said he suffered a lot because he couldn't keep up because um they would climb too much and the goats surprisingly didn't seem to like him very much and he thought that they were going to attack him because they and they have dangerous horns but i guess he's realized that they were just letting him know that there's a hierarchy and he needs to know his place so i mean i'm wondering if they knew he wasn't a goat

[00:40:37] like wouldn't he smell like a man like a human i don't know but i guarantee you that this guy is not letting anybody get his life 360 data when he starts dating people no because they're gonna be like what are you doing out in the middle of a field in switzerland so have fun explaining that one right guys if you're if you're looking for a way to not get a girlfriend i think doing what this guy

[00:41:01] does is is the way to go i agree this is not it anyway well here's where it gets a little weird too he's like the best moment was when one of the goats suddenly decided she was going to be my friend she would muzzle me with her nose and like to have me all right we're moving on i was gonna say it gets weirder it already wasn't all right we're done cut it mike's cut off yeah yeah this is getting

[00:41:28] creepy oh my god so anyway um all right so then uh the next thing we have here there's a video of um some hikers in honolulu uh they got arrested after they were um throwing a metal barricade down the side we talked about this before there's these like stairway to heaven in oahu my daughter lives in oahu she was like there's a million places to hike i don't know why anybody would want to climb

[00:41:52] up this stupid metal staircase in hawaii but apparently they do so the cops got them and there was seven seven guys that got arrested young men they threw the blockade um over the edge of this section and then decided to just go running right up these stairs and they ended up getting arrested so good good for the police 20 years in jail is this the place that's like really popular on

[00:42:17] instagram i feel like people trying to go for the gram yeah they are they are it's like those rusty stairway that's like it's very high yeah but i feel like i don't know i've seen pictures of like real trails i mean it's very muddy and gross and in some of them slick but beautiful when you get up to the summit so i'd rather go someplace legal instead of stressing out about like i'm going to sneak into some place where i'm going to get arrested i agree like caroline said there's other places to go

[00:42:43] this is caroline i'm guessing yes yeah exactly there's plenty of other places like yeah right so anyway all right i'm going to skip one of these and then we're going to do a little bit of um name changes here so we talk a lot on the podcast about like the origin of place names and we talk a lot about like the the logistics around the agencies that decide place names so we will we talked previously there was like a reconciliation of place names committee that had been working for the last

[00:43:11] four or five years and it changed a few names um there is an update we talked last week so the new administration came in and did a an executive order that was basically ordering the geographic names group that handles place names they ordered them to change the name of uh denali which is the highest mountain in um north america it's back to mount mckinley so it was named mount mckinley

[00:43:40] mckinley's a former president he had never been to alaska i don't think so he really had no connection it was just named after him as an as an honor uh but there's a long history around this mountain being named denali and even the alaska legislature which i think is mostly aligned politically with the current administration they passed a resolution asking for the name denali to be retained so we'll see if that that helps but certainly i think all the local um

[00:44:08] folks want to keep it as denali and then the the local uh state or the state government is also pushing for it as well me and stomp have talked about this before too and we're sort of like we feel like denali is a cooler name than mount mckinley nobody remembers that guy i don't even know what you did like i don't even know he got killed he got assassinated so um but i don't even remember the details of it so anyway but there's another more interesting name change that's going on so

[00:44:35] the the federal aviation um authority and google have have renamed the gulf of mexico to the gulf of america based on an executive order that was rolled out like a couple of weeks ago so this got me thinking and i don't want to get into politics because we don't talk politics here but i did think that this would be an interesting topic to talk a little bit about the origin of the word mexico and then talk a little bit about the historical context about how the gulf of mexico was named

[00:45:03] and then talk about the agencies that are actually authorized to make these name changes so that's sort of what i think about with name change it's always you think about what's the history on the word itself what's the history on how that place came to be named what it was and then what are the authorities that are in control of the name so those are the three things you want to think about when you think about this it's very geeky and paul's looking at me like what a nerd but i like this stuff so i'm sorry

[00:45:29] this tracks with you doing the stats for the rescues and such so it makes sense to me so i i was on uh on a i guess quick quick tangent i was on a work call the other day when this came across and we have an we have an office in galway and so i had the folks from galway uh google it and google map it and so it does show up as both yes which is which is kind of interesting it says like

[00:45:55] yeah it says gulf of america and then parentheses gulf of mexico so correct correct anyway but i had actually i had never known the history of the word mexico i had no idea i was like is this a spanish word is this a so the word mexico originates from the new hodl language which is spoken by aztecs it's derived from um mexico with an h which was the name of the capital of the aztec empire which

[00:46:25] was located where mexico city stands today um so mexico is thought to be composed of three parts typically when you get to these um you have these like native words they they have like segments of them that are like like the town saugus mass is a good example i think like s-a-u saw is like crooked and then us is like a river or vice versa so the words have the the pieces of words have

[00:46:51] meanings so uh mexico is thought to be composed of three parts um mez t which is for the moon um zictl which is navel or center and then co is place so together this roughly translates to place at the center of the moon or in the navel of the moon meaning um that um you know it's like the the center of an important place here so um it was seen as the center of the universe and aztec

[00:47:20] cosmology and then there also is another uh interpretation that um suggests that mexico was named after the mexico people who were the ruling ethnic group of the aztec empire so the aztec empire actually had different ethnicities in mexico or mexico the mexico people were one of the ethnic groups within there so anyway so um in the mexico they were part of the nahua people that migrated to

[00:47:48] the valley of mexico establishing their capital around 1325 when the spanish conquest arrived in 1521 the capital was rebuilt as mexico city so probably what happened is the spanish conquistadors came in they took that word mexico and used it as a place name for um for the city and then it became the country so

[00:48:15] um i guess officially when it gained independence from spain in 1821 it officially became the united mexican states and then retained the name mexico so that's that's the story behind that um as far as the gulf of mexico goes the original reference for the gulf of mexico goes back to early

[00:48:38] maps in the 1500s but the usage became commonplace in the 1700s and um has been in place for a long time so basically like if anyone's trying to argue that like there's no historical context for the gulf of mexico they're they're having a tough argument because it's been around for a long time it was named a couple of other things previously but for the most part it's always been named the gulf of mexico since maps were a thing and then officially if you want to change it i guess like you can do it

[00:49:08] with an executive order but the official process for changing it would be that you would need to work through um the international hydrographic organization to appeal to them for the name change because they're responsible for standardizing nautical charts and hydrographic naming conventions worldwide um you'd also have to work with the united nations geographic names group in its specialized

[00:49:37] agencies and typically what would need to happen here is that the u.s would need to work with stakeholders such as mexico cuba maybe like um some other countries in the gulf and essentially they'd all have to come to an agreement on the name change and then present it to the international hydrographic organization and the united nations group of experts on geographical names to petition

[00:50:02] them to get approval to make the name change so so we kind of skipped ahead a little bit yeah just a little yes that's very interesting though i mean i never really is questioned where is mexico or mexico coming from you know what i mean like it's just always been that way you think i'm just some

[00:50:22] big nerd over here but you're learning stuff it's educational it is learn something ready for slashers your review pull a gear stuff here so you you want to talk about gear hiking gear yeah we like

[00:50:52] some good gear absolutely okay so um there's this new new piece of gear that can come up so um it's not too soon to start thinking about mosquitoes and black flies there's this device that you can buy they use it in australia and it's a instead of itching when you get bug bites you use this device and it heats up your skin to like 50 degrees i guess i don't know what the temperature is but it

[00:51:20] heats your skin there's two two temperature readings one's like hot and then very hot and the idea is is you're supposed to like rub this against where you're itching and it'll it'll kind of burn your skin a little bit but not burn it like a real burn it'll just get hot enough where it will soothe your itch so i was reading the article and this guy he was like it's fine for me but my girlfriend thought it was too hot so she had to use the lower part but instead of itching you can you can pay 50 dollars

[00:51:46] for this device to burn your skin so then you it'll you'll you'll feel uncomfortable from the burn and not from the itch i think i'll stick with cortisone cream okay i'm not saying i'm not saying i'm not it's battery powered it's called well cares insect bite healer and it's 50 us and there's a power button

[00:52:13] that uh three seconds of heat at 47 degrees and six seconds of heat at 50 degrees i think that this is like sent um celsius not fahrenheit because it's an australian article so okay yeah yeah but i don't know i mean 37 celsius is body temperature so that's gonna be even hotter than 98 degrees fahrenheit yeah exactly so um if you want to get this one for your loved one on for valentine's day

[00:52:41] it's it's very romantic gift very so um not to like not to downplay it i just think i'll stick with cortisone right right right i think i'm just gonna itch yeah i'll deal with it it's fine yeah what's the um what is the worst experience do you guys paul what's the worst experience you've had with mosquitoes or black flies in the whites uh actually not in the whites um i haven't had it

[00:53:09] too bad in the whites but the worst i've ever had it was down at pisca state park uh down in uh the southwestern part of new hampshire man i hit i hit a patch there that the mosquitoes were just i was swimming through them couldn't get through it fast enough miserable yeah i avoid like i i don't hike as much in april and may the people that do gritting in those seasons i don't know how they do it but what about you cindy any any bad mosquito or black fly experience i am a constant mosquito

[00:53:38] and black fly magnet unfortunately i um the worst one i can think of is like four or five years ago my friend and i did owl's head in the summer and on the way back it it down poured but it was also a wicked hot day and she turned around to look at me and i was literally just a cloud of mosquitoes surrounding me it was awful i had i just get welts like i get a very strong reaction when i get bitten

[00:54:04] by anything like that so it's it's not a good time and the mosquito spray nothing nothing helps i've started using permethrin now that seems to help me a bit and i i still douse myself with like whatever i can buy that's a mosquito repellent so it does help if i forget then it's not fun so yeah i always say the worst experience i've ever had was zeta pass um and i like sitting there like that's a good place to like sort of stop and have when there's no mosquitoes it's a good place

[00:54:34] to stop and have lunch because so zeta path for people that aren't familiar this is like you go up 19 mile and then you i think you break off 19 mile i forget what that trail is maybe it's like the carter trail or something like that but you basically zeta path you can take a right and go up to mount height or carter zone or you can take a left and go to southern middle and it's like a wooded area and i think it's flat so there's a lot of standing water there and i remember sitting down

[00:55:01] for lunch and all of a sudden just getting absolutely like it was the thickest mosquitoes i've ever experienced in my life i had to like run to get out of there so that's awful yeah it's like you just want to enjoy and they come around and make it worse it's very very selfish of them yes it is it is i'm selfish i got tasty blood apparently sweet blood is that what they say i think so i think so anyway but uh here's another story about um hiking gear so this gentleman in massachusetts

[00:55:31] resident as a matter of fact he decided to go visit his uh friend he's a software engineer google and an avid hiker so uh i'll throw his name out so augustus terran augustus if you're listening like hit me up i want to know more details about this story um augustus was visiting a friend in india in new delhi and he apparently he's an avid hiker he was going to a friend's wedding he was

[00:55:58] there for a week and um he touched off on december 21st he created a security scare because his garmin in reach mini 2 was found in his handbag during a search and um i guess his device is you know the in reach is designed for hikers to track location and send out but apparently it's illegal to have

[00:56:26] possession of such radio equipment without authorization or a license um under the telecommunications act in india so i think that this guy probably just got he probably just got like hit up in the airport and was supposed to bribe somebody and didn't know any better or something they end up getting arrested but um yeah i don't know the telecommunications act of 2023 apparently a garmin in reach if you go to india is illegal

[00:56:52] so he ended up like i guess he ended up like um getting released eventually how long was he in jail for i guess he was released on the he missed his flight he was released on the 22nd and then uh the court told the petitioner that uh was intercepted at the airport that he was carrying the device in his hands uh his lawyer argued that um he had inadvertently left a device in his handbag after a recent hiking

[00:57:21] trip in colorado he said he entered on the 14th of december and was leaving on the 21st so um i guess he also provided a purchase receipt from may of 2022 along with literature explaining how all the devices is used he sets off an international incident with a garmin in reach so basically he was told to come

[00:57:45] back in july of um i guess he's got to come back eventually to i guess go to court or some nonsense so but this is ridiculous i would just never go to india again oh go ahead paul i was i was gonna say they should have sent him to switzerland hang out with a goat guy for a month that's true oh that is very true that is true so but don't bring your in reach to india i guess but uh yeah i think i would

[00:58:15] think you would be able to bring it anyway i guess maybe just check it yeah i mean i brought mine to iceland and had no issue i right i mean i don't know i guess you just got to check like you said yeah what uh how when did you go to ice i vaguely remember this i think i saw some pictures when did you go to iceland almost two years ago now actually i it was one of those trips i completely forgot to post about it like mostly yeah maybe we talked about i can't remember did you did you do

[00:58:42] any hiking or was it mostly just uh touring around like the golden circle and all that mostly touring i went with my friend and her sister we stayed in reykjavik at an airbnb and we did like day tours from reykjavik so we did uh the western coast like snafelness peninsula which was really neat okay and then we did the golden circle and then we did the south coast out to one of the glaciers okay like skagafass waterfall and all that stuff oh they were beautiful yeah yeah yeah it's amazing so

[00:59:10] next time you got to go you do a little more hiking though yes yes next time we'll get you out there yeah it's definitely i think anybody that goes to iceland is always like i'm going back you know there's never any qualms about that so yeah all right so um this is the part of the show where i do a dad joke and you guys get to see behind the scenes the way that i organize the dad joke is i do a lot of

[00:59:35] research ahead of time yes much research i just pick one so what do sea monsters eat fish and ships oh my gosh fish fish and ships are they pirate ships or just ships i don't know just just regular ones so um why do melons have weddings why do melons have weddings i don't know is the cantaloupe

[01:00:03] oh my god that's never happened before somebody got that that was amazing that's a good one good job paul yes i'm shocked the look on your face was great oh my god it was amazing so very good paul i'm proud of you yeah he just offset the shame drop from earlier

[01:00:28] love me a good dad joke did you have you have you have you did you know that joke have you heard that i've heard it once before oh okay geez all right well stomphead nosferatu i haven't seen that movie so i have nothing to um um to say about it here so um next up oh my god i'm not prepared for this one cindy you may need to help me here oh really this is the 48 peaks advertisement oh really do you

[01:00:55] have the copy ready i don't have it that would be a megan question oh no okay no that's fine i'm gonna just we're gonna do a drop in here okay and um we'll do the uh the 48 peaks drop here i feel so bad i don't have it i wasn't prepared either because stomp always does that so anyway all right so here's a couple of plugs is um if you want to get stickers um you can go and stop into ski

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[01:02:17] i think you that's like i think that's like a special membership where we we we give you a special plug every episode is this the first episode you've announced this i've never heard of this before stops inventing things paul and i get to be honorary members because this is yes oh really yes oh that's awesome is it a two-year term or is it yeah i don't know i don't know

[01:02:43] can we get a term if you're a senator it's a six-year term but also shout out to geez louise geez louise um had bought three coffees from us and uh she says that she listens to the podcast while she's sewing yeah i can't think of anything more entertaining than when you're sewing to listen to me and stomp so she's really great is she hula hooping while she's doing it yeah she's yeah

[01:03:06] she is she's always hula hooping and everything so hey hold my bed it's time to find out what mike

[01:03:21] and stomp are drinking on this week's beer talk um all right so next up is uh beer talk so this is the part of the show we talk about what beer we are drinking so i know cindy is prepared for this i didn't know paul did you did you bring anything to the oh you've got what do you have my favorite

[01:03:49] brewery is shilling up there in littleton new hampshire i am typically a pilsner guy um but because i was coming on this show i went i went mountain theme with their kinsman which is a india pale ale with citric cryo cascade and idaho seven hops little little citrusy hop okay it's pretty good well all right i'll go next and we'll do ladies last here so i am i'm on my night shift i'm on my

[01:04:19] last beer for the fluffy hazy ipa so i've got my little owl there with the night shift so i think my wife got these at trader joe's and danvers so thank you mrs mike and then cindy what do you have i've got my down east cider and it's in my 48 peaks koozie so got a wrap excellent excellent i've got a few of those around so yeah are you a cider person yeah i'm uh i'm gluten free so i can't do beer

[01:04:46] or ales or any of that so i am i was very much a cider person before that but more so now so i can actually drink it yeah very good very good we'll drink those slow folks because like cindy was like i may have to step away for a minute like no you won't so all right um now this is the part of the show where we do recent hikes so i haven't been out um

[01:05:11] i wasn't out last weekend i don't think i can't remember i wasn't out last weekend i am getting out this weekend later in the weekend but um paul have you been on any recent hikes uh the last one was with you uh isolation yeah isolation a couple weeks ago now okay we'll talk about that in a uh in a moment uh cindy have you been out recently i was saying to paul i'm ready for the shame drop from you guys i haven't been out since end of october unfortunately yeah i feel like we had the same

[01:05:40] conversation last time you were on the show we did which was uh full conditions in november because i i was you're getting out this weekend i'm hoping to yeah hedgehog like we were saying but um yeah i was up north in november twice once for the rescue me 5k and then the full conditions the next weekend i just didn't have a chance to go hiking those two weekends so did you in october that when you went in october where'd you go uh i hiked twice so the end of the month i did mount

[01:06:07] roberts with some friends i actually haven't really hiked around the lakes region aside from the bell naps it was nice i liked it and then that's a good one yeah the the one before that uh two of our friends actually got married on mount musalak at the beginning of october so it was a peak foliage weekend so it was perfect yeah that's great that's nice who did did they have a friend to do the ceremony on them on the mountain yeah one of their friends got like a one day permit and did the

[01:06:36] ceremony at the top it was like golden hour it's bluebird day absolutely stunning i i love those photos i got that day it was a great experience so well now logistically when you have a wedding like that does the groom and the bride hike up together or do they take separate routes and then meet on the summit so uh all of us like went ahead of them and then it was uh two brides actually who um two brides yeah no two brides um and they were at the end behind us so we all went

[01:07:04] up to the summit and then they hiked up to join us it was really really nice yeah oh that's awesome did anybody do any music as they entered yeah someone had a little speaker so they had a little music and then the same when they processed out to the summit sign which is really cool and then um did they do you go like to have like a reception afterwards or how does that that'll work i think they had a reception at um an airbnb they booked for the weekend i i it was so late i just we i went

[01:07:33] back home like i went to where i was staying so wow yeah it was fun it was a great day yeah yeah the only time i've ever experienced like an outdoor wedding like that was um when this is years ago i've been to sedona twice this was probably like this was before we were as well me and my mrs mike were dating so this would have been the mid 90s we we hiked the devil's bridge in sedona and there was a wedding going on on the on the bridge and we hung out everybody just hung out and everyone's like yeah

[01:08:02] clapping and stuff so oh that's awesome that's fun yeah very good and then how far along are you when you're 4 000 footer i knew you were gonna ask me this i always ask you let's go let's get done i know i'm i'm still on 34 i have not made any progress since we last spoke i'm very sorry do you have a solid plan to start what do you have left do you have like some big ones i do so i have the easier

[01:08:31] ones quote unquote um cabot um the carters i have all the northern prezis plus monroe uh the bonds and then carrigan and i believe that's all them it's 14 so have you thought about like how are you gonna like attack bonds are you thinking like an overnight or are you thinking like you just gotta like grind it out or what are your thoughts i think an overnight would be fun maybe like a z bonds

[01:08:56] traverse go that way stay at guio and then go across like do sunset all that stuff i i think bonds would be what i want to finish on but i was talking with lynn about it because she also is working to finish and she i think wants to finish on jam and i haven't done jam either so we'll see kind of where things go i want to knock off you know um cabot carrigan actually isolation i haven't done

[01:09:23] that either like knock off those and maybe finish bonds or one of the prezis so all right well yeah so you got some you logistic you got some long ones i do yeah i won't let you down i will get through them i swear well if you if you need help and you need like um you know people to form alliances with i know a couple of guys that would be happy to to head out with you guys i would be happy to form an alliance with you guys that sounds great and my caroline's got a bunch of those too

[01:09:51] she's she's got to get all those too okay that's sort of her same list she's she's it's kind of funny like you get to that like mid-30s number and then like those tend to be the ones that um you you have to get is like the the jefferson and uh the bonds and and all those so yeah awesome anyway cool all right so um uh next up we want to thank cs instant coffee they are uh if you are going to do an overnight cindy they are the ones that you would want to take with you to have some nice coffee in

[01:10:21] the morning so you can check them out at cs instant dot coffee that's cs instant dot coffee so uh fuel fast with instant coffee perfect for running biking camping gym travel and athletes so check them out they're really great they actually donated to our uh public lands event we had some goodie bags they donated some instant coffee for the bags they're fantastic they are fantastic so all right

[01:10:50] so we're going to skip the notable hikers of the week uh we'll wait for stomp because he loves the notable hikers and then we're moving into our big segment here so this is um cindy and paul joining us from 48 peaks the alzheimer's association so this is cindy's probably fourth time on the show and then paul's first time so welcome back cindy and why don't you remind the listeners a little bit about yourself and then talk a little bit about the alzheimer's association and their mission

[01:11:18] absolutely thanks for having me and us back it's always great to chat with you guys so um my name cindy i am currently the volunteer ambassador chair for our 48 peaks committee and it's my second year as chair i believe fifth year volunteering and i've been participating with 48 peaks since 2018 actually so seven eight years now that i've been hiking and raising money for

[01:11:47] alzheimer's association thanks paul yeah it's been a good time and then and we've talked about this before but like your motivation around getting involved with the alzheimer's association can you talk a little bit about that yeah so i have two family connections to dementia specifically my maternal grandmother or my gram as i call her she lived with dementia in my middle and high school years

[01:12:10] and she passed away in 2010 during my first semester of college so she's my first inspiration for hiking for alzheimer's like we talked about i have been working on the 4 000 footers for some time i like hiking and one of my college friends actually her and her mom they were hiking franconia back in 2017 and came across a group of hikers dressed in purple and came to learn they were part of 48 peaks so

[01:12:36] i started in 2018 fundraising actually started a team in 2019 and then in the years since um besides my gram i now hike for my grand aunt who is my gram's youngest sister and last surviving sibling she is currently living with dementia and entered i believe a long-term assisted living facility in the fall so i hike for the two of them i hike for um caregivers like my mom who took care of my gram for many years

[01:13:06] before she passed and just anyone in this community who is affected by alzheimer's and dementia okay and then so this is how you learned about it basically by seeing people out on the trail can you talk specifically about uh 48 peaks the longest day and uh what it is and how people can participate yeah so 48 peaks is part of the longest day like you said it's the signature fundraising

[01:13:30] event for the alzheimer's association so as part of it participants pick any activity or date that they want to raise funds and awareness for the alzheimer's association so in the case of 48 peaks it's hiking so we started in 2013 out of um a volunteer from new hampshire he decided to hike for the longest day uh to raise awareness in honor of his wife who was living with early onset alzheimer's he invited his friends

[01:13:59] his family and with time the event became an official or his uh hiking activity became an official event under the longest day umbrella for the mass new hampshire chapter so uh we have been an official event since 2015 so this makes 10 years as an official event this year which is pretty neat so now that we are 10 years in we have grown a lot and we're at over 400 hikers and last year we had

[01:14:27] 96 teams participate and cover the white mountains in purple which is really great so um go ahead mike you're gonna say no i think it's amazing when you reflect back so you've been doing this for a long time now and i think you know we've known each other now for i think coming up on four years oh yeah um the the cool thing is is like i feel like just like watching it over time the the connections

[01:14:52] that have been made and the friendships that have been made through um hiking together and and and 48 peaks has been great but like can you talk a little bit about from your perspective like i feel like probably for you like some of your best friends you've made through through this organization and then this this you know the the fundraiser but also just throughout the year the work that you do yeah no i honestly most of my hiking friends are out of this like you said uh when i first joined it was

[01:15:21] my college friends 2018 i didn't get to hike that year but 2019 i had a team of like 10 people all from high school friends of friends and then covet hit so um 2020 was my first year volunteering and honestly at that point we were just trying to keep the event alive and going i i think we may be raised within like 30 to 40 thousand dollars that year which which um it thankfully team sisu who's one of our

[01:15:49] veteran teams they are huge advocates and fundraisers for 48 peaks and alzheimer's association they and our veteran teams uh kept us alive as an event that's up that year and then 2021 was still just trying to keep going and then i believe it was 2022 is when hiking buddies came into the picture and that's when the lid really blew off this whole thing and we raised i think it was 250 000 i'm like

[01:16:15] i the years kind of blend together now because it's just incredible how much it's grown like to go from like i mentioned in 2020 just trying to keep it going to now we're raising like 200 000 a year for alzheimer's association there's all these people i see purple on the trail like when i used to hike people had no idea what i was talking about they would just see my shirt and say oh you're hiking the

[01:16:41] 48 peaks and i'd say well yeah but there's a reason why you know so it's it's really great yeah yeah and we'll talk about um how people can sign up and and participate uh but like i just want to stress that whole like this is a great opportunity if you're looking to and i know the hiking buddies is great about this like it gives people options to make connections but if you want to like you know even if you're a hiker that uh you feel like you've got your crew of friends if you've got a crew and you

[01:17:10] want to give back like this is a great way to get connected with like-minded individuals there's a fun party that they do for the the hiker celebration that was amazing last year i'm sure it's going to be amazing this year um and you can make some friends and i think like me and paul in particular like we met through this last year and have become friends and we've gone hiking a bunch of times now so um just my own example of this is just making all these connections it's been amazing so i just want

[01:17:36] to make sure i stress that and paul is joining us this time so i think you guys basically like every time you come on like we bring a new person on that that has an interesting story and i think paul's connection to alzheimer's is is really inspiring and we got to hike together last year and we met and you told me a little bit about your story but paul why don't you introduce yourself talk a little bit about your hiking background and then talk about your um i guess your journey with the alzheimer's

[01:18:04] association and in the longest day trying to get too tangled here in my court get yourself organized and then start talking oh good i stole my son's gaming headset for this so we're nice there we go um yeah my name is paul lamar uh where do we even start i grew up in southern new hampshire some people might call it northern mass now um i grew up in a in a very large family uh i have nine brothers and

[01:18:33] sisters and so i grew up basically outdoors my parents wanted nothing to do with us being inside so right i spent a lot of time just in the woods of southern new hampshire um we'd hightail it over to pacman adnock mount monadnock so a lot of the hiking in that area i also did a lot of i raced nordic skiing in high school so spent a lot of time in the mountains temple mountain was our base mountain

[01:18:59] um uh through high school for skiing and such so uh it's you know really hiking has been kind of something i've fallen in and out of love with uh you know throughout the years um i got back into it in the late 90s uh doing a lot of actually backpacking uh which is great uh i kind of would love to dabble back into that a little bit um staying at uh you know the different different tent sites in the whites

[01:19:26] ethan pond we're gonna get we'll get we get you back into it in the summer yeah yeah you're on the you're on the text list now mits was a great one um great tent site and uh great base camp for the southern presides and such so um you know really you know i'll kind of pivot a little bit to alzheimer's and then kind of get back into hiking

[01:19:49] um if that's fair uh you know my first introduction to alzheimer's was my aunt my godmother um she had younger onset um uh when i was uh just getting out of college and and hers kind of evolved and such and they lived out west uh actually you mentioned sedona they didn't live too far from

[01:20:12] sedona um and you know my early experiences with my aunt uh and my uncle who was her primary caregiver was just a lot of classic alzheimer's symptoms repeating stories forgetfulness uh lost in thought a bit of kind of anger and getting lost in thought which is a very common common symptom and

[01:20:34] such um and you know as her alzheimer's progressed uh i ultimately um and and as she was aging and kind of getting near uh kind of end of life um is really when i started to get engaged for the alzheimer's association and ran my first half marathon for the alzheimer's association uh the run to remember in boston which is a great great event uh did that in 2015 and then evolved from there to uh the boston

[01:21:03] marathon for the alzheimer's association 2018 um they've run a couple other half marathons and most recently in this past october did uh chicago marathon for the alzheimer's association um now when i was i'd lost my dad to the disease uh in march of last year um he had uh he had a number of different health issues that we kind of uh he had a lot of cognitive things going on but we kind

[01:21:32] of blamed it on some other things that he had he had pulmonary fibrosis and afib and uh you know just some complications from those and some things that we weren't really sure what was going on he really had um he had gotten into a car accident that we couldn't really attribute to anything uh just uh you know similar to my aunt just a lot of these classic symptoms that really just started you know

[01:21:56] my dad was was later in life when it really presented for him uh he was diagnosed in 20 officially diagnosed in 24 i'm sorry 22 um but you know realistically uh you know the symptoms were there all along we just weren't reading the cards uh you know correctly um and you know it's it's a cruel

[01:22:21] disease uh you know certainly he's my hero and and to watch my hero um you know whether the way that he was uh you know really not able to do the simple things in life and you know i never thought that be a day i'd be changing my dad's diaper or spoon feeding him or you know whatever the case is i mean you know that's they they really regress to kind of almost infant or you know toddler state stage and

[01:22:48] it's just it's crushing for a family um you know the alzheimer's association themselves was a great resource for me i had met a number of like you know similar people in similar situations when i ran the boston marathon they really um you know really helped me push towards the organization itself and and the helpline which is there 24 7 um you're always you know any time of day that you're can you're

[01:23:17] calling you're connecting to a live body um you know it's someone that can help you through anyone in a number of different situations i think for me the the did you you find yourself calling that line a lot not not a ton but you know i got a lot of family members so we might have been uh beating that door down uh you know a fair amount um i i would say what reached the crescendo for us is you know he had a couple falls um and you know at that point it was just no

[01:23:47] longer you know we tried to keep him in the home as long as we could um you know my mother carried a great great burden and then my siblings we would rotate in care to help mom out and um after a couple falls we just you know we knew it was time to move him into a facility and you know for me that was when my outreach to that helpline started because i didn't even know where to start with how to process it

[01:24:12] right you know and and i will go to my grave it was one of the hardest days of my life having to move my dad into a memory care facility it's just there's nothing nothing that prepares you for it and uh the the folks at the alzheimer's association were certainly helpful to try and explain not just the emotional part of it but you know so many of the financial considerations and and such it is a very

[01:24:37] expensive disease um and can be very very difficult uh on the families to care for care for a patient both you know from the emotional perspective and and for a fiduciary's perspective as well wow and then so your father passed in march of 2024 correct correct correct um so you i mean i i think i

[01:25:01] met you the first time on our hike which would have been but you really like i think you took your father's passing and like that you know people react different ways but my my my impression when i met you was i was like this guy has a fire lit under him because of this and you know it sounds like you i don't know how you know it's my parents are both here um and you never know how you're going to react

[01:25:27] some people it takes longer to process but if i feel like for you just looking at it from the outside and i have gotten to know you a little bit um over the last year or so but it's to me my impression was is that you took sort of that obviously it's a it's a sadness and a tragedy but you took it and it kind of lit a fire under you to to do something right is that yeah is that how you felt like i gotta do something yeah 100 um you know when my dad was really in decline is when i

[01:25:54] signed up for the chicago marathon um and you know i signed up for that and in about the fall of 23 and uh again my dad passed in march of 24 um in april i was sitting home just in you know having a low moment and uh on a sunday afternoon and i shut up and i said i'm just gonna go run up do welch dickey

[01:26:18] and uh um i happened to run into uh eric todd sweet on the trail that day um it's like holy cow you're the guy from facebook uh and you know i'm talking i'm chatting with eric and and he was he was he was uh man he was a blessing that day uh you know to be honest and i've thanked him multiple times since um you know we were chatting and he was he was asking why i was why i was there that day and what

[01:26:45] was going on and i told him uh you know that i just lost my dad and um eric said uh you should join my alzheimer's i can team and said you know i've seen 48 pigs but i'm like uh gosh you know i'm already fundraising for the chicago marathon and don't really know and he's like oh you gotta do this and i'm like all right let's let's let it roll so he actually on the trail called lynn sweezy

[01:27:09] and uh and asked if it would be okay for me to join the team she said of course uh you know it's it's great as we all know and uh did she know she was getting super fundraiser kind of kind of the rest was the rest was history so you know it was crazy because it was only about six weeks before that hike right um right and you know we had an unfortunate another tragic event

[01:27:34] my family um in between then losing losing my brother unexpectedly and uh you know between my dad's passing and my brother's passing uh the money just the money just came in um yeah you know which which is phenomenal yeah and it was it was a great experience getting to meet you and um and join up with everybody um on on the hike and we'll talk a little bit about that but um i guess cindy why don't you

[01:28:00] talk a little bit about like the um the process of you know how to sign up how best to participate and a little bit about like the you know the specific day that a lot of people sort of target for the the hiker celebration but also the amount of flexibility that's involved in this like you don't have to do it on a designated day and i think you can you can probably give the rundown on on how to

[01:28:25] participate yeah absolutely so we've kind of like alluded to this but the goal is to have at least one team on each of the 48 4 000 footers of new in new hampshire that's where you know 48 peaks the name comes from we have evolved uh over the last few years to try to include more people you know people who might not be able to hike a 4 000 footer so you you are more than welcome to hike one of the 4 000

[01:28:51] footers but you can also create your own challenge you could hike maybe a 52 at the view like a willard or a monadnock you could maybe do um we've had teams do a pemi loop a presidential traverse maybe you could hike graylock and mass like whatever is within your abilities it's available to you either of those options in terms of how you can participate uh you can sign up uh create your a team for people

[01:29:17] to join you can join an existing team or there is an option that you can sign up as an individual if you don't have a team to join so that's there as well you can um we're really looking for people to lead teams though i i do want to highlight that our goal for this year is 100 teams we had 96 last year so we're pretty sure we can do it this year we can get to 100 teams so we invite anyone to come

[01:29:46] help us achieve this you know like i said one team on each of the 4ks but we usually have more than one on each peak there was i think two years ago we had a really bad weather weekend we had like probably five teams hiking on like pierce alone over the course of that summer but um like you said it's not limited to just the longest day or weekend of the year you can hike anytime over the summer our

[01:30:12] fundraising year ends august 31st like my team hiked middle of august two years ago it's totally fine whatever works for you is fine with us so um you know you can follow along with what 4ks are still unclaimed quote unquote on our facebook group and also our instagram we keep it updated but if you see your peaks taken you can still hike it it's not a big deal do what works for you

[01:30:37] in terms of claiming your peak once a team captain signs up they will receive an email with the google form for you to tell us what your hiking plans are if you're going to do a 4k or create your own adventure like i mentioned and you don't have to have this plan when you register you can submit it whenever uh up until when you're actually going to hike um the most important thing is our hiker celebration of course because like you said it's wicked fun every single year so this year because

[01:31:07] asked me this in november and i didn't have an answer for you so now i have an answer for you um this year we're going to be having our hiker celebration at tuckerman brewing in conway new hampshire and it will actually be on the longest day of the year saturday june 21st so it is right in line with our mission shining as much light as we can on alzheimer's and dementias i i don't think

[01:31:36] it's ever been actually on the date so this is like fantastic i got like chills thinking about it earlier it's great so perfect timing right like it's good i'm just hoping for good weather we've had not a great couple years with the weather so um but yeah the hiker celebration is just a chance to come together we like to recognize our hikers for all the hard work they do both hiking and fundraising and raising awareness we have raffles we have music we have great food beer company all the

[01:32:04] good stuff and um it's just a great time so you don't have to hike that weekend we encourage you to come join us if you do hike but um just the one thing i want to also mention is you must be a registered 48 peaks participant in order to join so just make sure you're already registered and then you can show up and we'll be like come on in you know what i mean um it is for our hikers so we hope we'll see a lot of people there i know we're going to see you guys there

[01:32:33] definitely yeah i think i'm gonna i'm actually gonna captain a team this year i got some ideas and i'll share with you but um yeah i'm gonna try to recruit mrs mike and some of her friends oh great um to see if i can do that so i'll i'll give more details and then i'll probably open up some spots to like slasher listeners as well so i'm excited but um maybe maybe you could raffle those off or something oh yeah maybe i could do that yeah we'll talk we'll talk you're the fundraising guru so

[01:33:01] whatever you tell me to do i'm gonna that's what i'm gonna do for sure um but so just the specific sign up what can you talk about the website and then where people should go on the website to get that done yes so our website is alz.org backslash forward slash 48 peaks i forget always forget which slash that is technically yes um forward thank you paul um so you can go to our website we have a link

[01:33:27] there for creating your own team or you can search a team if you want to join say the slasher team or paul's team or my team and you can sign up there uh if you are a team captain i believe there is a 20 just kind of donation startup kind of thing to get your team going but otherwise your team members can join for quote unquote free though we encourage people to donate because this is a hiking

[01:33:51] fundraiser that is the point of this but obviously we want to have fun so um we encourage you to head over to the website to learn more we also have the facebook group like i mentioned and on instagram it is 48 peaks alz and if you message it's probably me who's answering you so ask away i'll answer you any questions yeah go paul you said you wanted to say i was just gonna say like if if you don't

[01:34:20] you know if you have an attachment to the disease and aren't uh you know feeling like leading a team or such you know definitely reach out as well and and we can certainly place you with a team yeah that actually happened a couple years ago one of our volunteers alana she's a young caregiver her mom had actually alana was on with me one time before oh that's right yeah she was on um so her mom has early onset and alana had i think been doing the marathon before but she wanted to do hiking and heard

[01:34:50] about 48 peaks megan contacted me and asked are you okay with someone joining your team and i said yes so she ended up hiking with my team up pierce like two or three years ago so it's totally fine we have people who are more than happy to have new members on their teams yeah yeah i feel like too when you do the hike with each other like even if you don't know people like you're friends for life after that oh yeah it's just it's a great bonding experience um and then paul speaking of the bonding experience

[01:35:17] so when we did the the hike up to gale head like there was a couple of memorable first of all dave shits in the woods joined us but there was a there was like a moment that i will never forget like when we were hiking down i don't know why but we all sort of just stopped together and we would just i don't know what happened but somehow knobby hikes just started sort of because knobby was like

[01:35:39] in the middle of dealing with um you know his his i think both of his parents had recently just been moved in and i don't think he'll care that we're talking about this he's pretty open about it um but both of his parents had been moved into assisted living at that point and were dealing with dementia and he was sort of telling his story and it was so emotional and it was a moment i don't think i'll ever forget i don't know you you were there right yeah remember that yeah absolutely

[01:36:04] yeah no i i i kept it in check for the course of that day until that moment um right you know when uh when knobby got going i think uh i think dave dave called it the i sweat um yes yeah and it was really like it was and it was such a fun day and it was a it was an up and down day there was rain but like we made the best of it we brought umbrellas and then you know dave had to go the yeah dave had

[01:36:29] to step off trail and we were like dave is really shitting in the woods this is so exciting and and you know we had such a good time and then we took a group photo and a gray jay came flying by the group photo right at the perfect moment it was just an amazing day and then that was the day too that you guys all snuck rocks in my backpack when i wasn't paying attention and i caught you uh and then we also ran into mike masel and the redline guide crew at the and we got some great photos so it was just an

[01:36:58] amazing day but like the the moment where knobby sort of was explaining what he's dealing with in real time and you know so so many of i you know i haven't directly had to um experience a family member with alzheimer's but like just to sort of have it brought home what knobby was living at that moment was just so emotional and but it was a cool experience overall it was such a great day yeah it was it was special we actually ran into cindy's boyfriend that day which i only just

[01:37:25] recently found out about yeah you ran into ryan at the galehead hut he was see your boyfriend at the time uh newly yes wasn't wasn't talking about it too much it was like how did you guys did you guys meet through hiking uh instagram actually instagram yeah so did did you like um

[01:37:47] who's dm who's dm i forget what it was like responding to stories initially but i was like a friend of a friend was like oh i think you guys would get along as like friends and then it was like lord of the rings initially hiking that kind of thing and then here we are so he was in the crew with mike and and those guys yeah yeah he met you guys he's a real legit hiker then right yeah he's

[01:38:14] the crazy one that yeah really he did he hikes with gwen he's the guy that hikes with gwen oh i gotta do some research all right i didn't know this you're like hiking royalty now i didn't know it until um cindy had mentioned earlier we had the winter hiking safety event at public lands last weekend and so cindy and i were doing some flowering for the event and ryan came and and that's when he

[01:38:41] filled me in i had no idea you know thank you for tipping me off we got out everybody everybody wants to know about cindy's love life so this is actually valentine's day's tomorrow so it is it is what timing wow wow all right well paul so then now we got to put you on the spot so now you've had the you've had the honor the pleasure of hiking with mike like multiple times now can you talk a little bit about like what is the experience like is it like and and you better

[01:39:10] not bring up my fly being down because i will go nuts but otherwise how is the experience is it everything you thought it was going to be am i a pain in the ass on the trail listeners want to know and more and more um yeah no you know the uh i just want to echo one thing like the that the 48 peaks day was was truly a special day um yeah i was uh i was a little worried i was

[01:39:35] in over my head when i saw who was on the team i'm like this is kind of a who's who i'm like what the hell did i get myself into um but yeah the friendships that have come out of it um you know i've hiked with you uh you know a few times now and and eric a couple times and and nick uh you know a few times as well it's been uh it's been phenomenal um uh really i feel blessed to have

[01:40:01] been part of that day i know cindy hiked the next day you had gail as well we did do gail as well yeah yeah which is kind of kind of funny um yeah how you can with the user it's say it's been a riot uh you know the day on uh the crescent ridge crescent randolph loop was phenomenal um i almost died twice that day once falling off uh the summit of north randolph and then uh getting attacked by ladybugs

[01:40:28] um yes really that's true that's true i forgot about that so we were talking about mosquitoes but yeah paul has some weird thing about his like it must be his odor or his like blood or something like ladybugs attacked him oh wow yeah that's supposed to be good luck not not that many i felt violated cindy but that day was that day was funny that day yeah and cindy so we were hiking we did

[01:40:56] crescent and and randolph and my fly fell down on my pants and paul no nobody told me i must have hiked like a mile and a half with my zipper down and they were all making fun of me behind my back and i had no idea oh gosh we're actually doing we're actually i almost never hiked with them again we did it in front of your face actually because we're we're doing like all these little like

[01:41:19] subliminal messages and such just you weren't picking up on i was just yapping away like so anyway that's what good friends are supposed to do they make fun of you and then they help you after right that's right that is we try to get poor liz faye to jump on the grenade and she's like it's not gonna be me not gonna be me she's not tipping me off tipping me off so yeah it was it was a fun day and you did uh uh you know we did isolation a couple weeks ago

[01:41:49] which was it was a cold ass day but it was uh super fun day i think you took the biggest spill that day you were i think so i broke a pole but oh right i think you're i think you were down in that hole a little longer than i was yeah yeah that was not fun that was not fun we were breaking trail through engine hill and i like i don't know nick was leading the way maybe i was leading the way and i just i fell and it was so deep i you know sometimes you can't get out of those holes so

[01:42:18] ryan will tell you he's okay with gwen doing crazy stuff exactly what you mean yeah so anyway but yeah no it's been great and like i said like for for 48 peaks if you if you want to get involved uh definitely check out the website we'll put everything up on the show notes it's a great chance for you to uh to get involved in hiking if you're not sure about it like sign up for a team and uh the other thing too is it's not just the 4 000 footers that you can you can do

[01:42:47] smaller mountains like my plan i'm trying to sort of get a group together that's probably not going to want to do a 4 000 footer but like hedgehog or like you know sugar bush or something like that or sugar loaf they could um they could do that so there's nothing restricting you from doing shorter mountains too right yeah no no restrictions at all it's whatever is best suited for you and your team if you're on a team and i mean if you're not a hiker we have options for you too um paul and i as we

[01:43:15] said we're both volunteers we have the volunteer committee you're welcome to help come and plan this event with us we're always looking for more volunteers and i mean if you know maybe a company or a group that might want to even sponsor the event we do have different sponsor levels that you know if you want to reach out to our event manager megan she's happy to share those with you there's different benefits like having your name or logo on the yearly t-shirt that we all wear out on the peaks uh there's summit

[01:43:43] banners that we bring to the summits with your company name on it uh we post on social media there's more so um we have that as an option and you know it's just getting out there like you said making friends making connections and just having a good time while raising awareness and fundraising for a good cause so right right so our goal this year so we're going to put all this in the show notes we're going to do all the details do the faqs we're going to link about the hiker celebration

[01:44:12] we'll link on the facebook the instagram um and then we'll also go we're going to give you megan's phone number call her just call her to say hi yeah just call say hi anytime at 3 a.m on a tuesday night give her a call maybe not that maybe not that don't go crazy but anyway we'll give we'll give you everything but um we're going to get a hundred teams this year and then we're going to raise

[01:44:38] 300 000 or 400 000 oh wow whatever i think it's at least we want at least 225 000 if i think but if we do 300 or more that's totally fine by us like that we're gonna crush it we're gonna be great paul's gonna come through yes paul's gonna come no pressure right yeah we're gonna see i got some i get some ideas cooking yeah yeah yeah we'll talk i like that raffle idea that's a good one so

[01:45:03] actually maybe one more uh resource i can plug paul mentioned it but the 24 7 helpline is really great um there's you know um providers on there there's many different languages spoken you can get help any time of day and the number is 800 272 3900 like paul said they're very helpful one of our other volunteers tony used it extensively when her father was living with alzheimer's

[01:45:30] so they're really great if you don't know what to do uh just call someone's willing to listen and help you so very good so all right so we've learned everything we need to learn about the alzheimer's association 48 peaks the longest day we learned about like some guy that that lived with goats we've learned about um whether or not like cindy and her boyfriend have life 360 and tracking each

[01:45:58] other or not so we've learned a lot today so you guys did excellent cindy this is the first time you've you've co-hosted a podcast so now you have a new fun fact when you have to start a new job and share yeah somebody add it to the resume resume builder yeah yeah that's right so well but i want to both of you and um when i i'm already sick of stomps so maybe i'll call you back next week sounds like a plan just let me know paul wants paul wants to say something before we leave can i plug

[01:46:27] one other thing we will be at well we will be at exhibiting at the boston outdoor expo boston run show the weekend of march 1st and 2nd cindy i think i'm actually going to be working with you on the saturday yes um great so if uh if you have any questions or if you're planning to be on that event uh i think there's plenty of different ways to get free tickets to that that uh that exhibit

[01:46:52] exhibition it's quite uh quite a good take even if it's not to come and see us but if you have any questions and want to talk to someone in real life um head down to the show and that will be happy to have a conversation yeah okay yeah that's a good reminder matter of fact i may actually go so i'll let you know if i end up going but um i'll put the in the show notes a link to get free tickets to the the

[01:47:15] expo yeah it was a fun time last year so it should be again i have the code oh you do free tickets yes i don't know what it is but it's somewhere in my google drive so i will add it tonight uh tonight to the show notes so um but that's a good reminder any other plugs anything else you need to say before we say good night um just thank you as always for your support i mean when i look back at how far

[01:47:41] 48 peaks has come a lot of it has been since we connected with you and stomp and just the podcast in general so i really want to thank you and the listeners for all of your support over the years so um actually the insta just crossed 1200 followers which i was like yay you know oh that's awesome that's awesome yeah yeah we've grown up with you guys so it's been it's been a great partnership so we appreciate it and um we will appreciate even more painting the mountains purple in june and

[01:48:09] we will continue to push the uh um the the listeners to join teams and start teams so we'll look forward to it yeah it'll be great so just quick recap june 21st is the hiker celebration you can find out more about the event at alls.org forward slash 48 peaks and reach out anytime with questions we'd love to see you out on the trails thank you for listening if you enjoyed the

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[01:49:04] facebook and instagram we hope you'll join us next week for another great show until then on behalf of mike and stomp get out there and crush some mega peaks now covered in scratches blisters and bug bites chris staff wanted to complete his most challenging day hike ever fishing game officers say the hiker from florida activated an emergency beacon yesterday morning he was hiking along the appalachian trail

[01:49:34] when the weather started to get worse officials say the snow was piled up to three feet in some spots and there was a wind chill of minus one degree and there's three words to describe this race lieutenant james neeland new hampshire fishing game lucenda thanks for being with us today thanks for having me what are some of the most common mistakes you see people make when they're heading out on the trails to hike here in new hampshire seems to me the most common is being unprepared i

[01:50:02] think if they just simply visited uh hike safe.com and got a list of the 10 essential items and had those in their packs they probably would have no need to ever call us at all